TalcottWx Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 Storms are holding up well AIT even far east.. some pop up storms in the area.. should at least be an interesting aftn to watch the radar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan11 Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 The biggest wind with this system in the NE turns out to be straight line ..not tornadoes. 83 mph gust reported in the Niagara Frontier of NY in the last hour. Lots of straight line damage apparently. Still calm and ovc here..... Sounds like monster gusts coming in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalcottWx Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 I think the watch should have been a bit further east... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted April 28, 2011 Author Share Posted April 28, 2011 The biggest wind with this system in the NE turns out to be straight line ..not tornadoes. 83 mph gust reported in the Niagara Frontier of NY in the last hour. Lots of straight line damage apparently. Still calm and ovc here..... Not totally surprising, usually as the system advance this way the winds aloft align more unidirectional through the column. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPPYVALLEY Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 Radar looks like a pretty potent storm cell is just west or over the quabbin hill towns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blizzard24 Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 i think that this may and june will best chance in years for sne to get tornado Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 I think the watch should have been a bit further east... I doubt we see any severe reports in central and eastern New England. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted April 28, 2011 Author Share Posted April 28, 2011 That line of lightning should be getting here soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalcottWx Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 Cells firing up over will and flying ne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalcottWx Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 I doubt we see any severe reports in central and eastern New England. lol i definitely agree... but if there should have been one at all it should have been a bit further east.. compare radar from now to about 3 hrs ago in the watch zone.. much better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted April 28, 2011 Author Share Posted April 28, 2011 I doubt we see any severe reports in central and eastern New England. This stuff was even having trouble producing SVR in NJ/SE NY...hardly any reports. I doubt we see any SVR up this way, were just way too stable and the strongest winds aloft are not penetrating through the inversion we have in place. In fact, I bet the strongest winds are occurring just outside of the convection rather than with it...that usually seems to be the case in these setups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted April 28, 2011 Author Share Posted April 28, 2011 lol i definitely agree... but if there should have been one at all it should have been a bit further east.. compare radar from now to about 3 hrs ago in the watch zone.. much better Atmospheric conditions this far east are not conducive for severe wx. There just isn't an any instability, there isn't even much in the way of elevated instability. THese storms are just firing due to the great deal of forcing/dynamical support aloft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalcottWx Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 Atmospheric conditions this far east are not conducive for severe wx. There just isn't an any instability, there isn't even much in the way of elevated instability. THese storms are just firing due to the great deal of forcing/dynamical support aloft. Well, whatever forcing this far east is proving better than the the instability out west in NY so far.... at least thats how radar makes it APPEAR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPPYVALLEY Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 This stuff was even having trouble producing SVR in NJ/SE NY...hardly any reports. I doubt we see any SVR up this way, were just way too stable and the strongest winds aloft are not penetrating through the inversion we have in place. In fact, I bet the strongest winds are occurring just outside of the convection rather than with it...that usually seems to be the case in these setups. Temps stayed in the mid 60's here all morning with thick cloud cover so there was not much chance for some solar heating. When what looked like the strongest storms were just W of here (over Moneypit) it actually brightened a bit. lol Now just steady light rain so the Berks and associated foothills chewed this line up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amarshall Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 If you read Matt Noyes twitter and FB updates you'd think BOS would be wiped off the map. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPPYVALLEY Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 Well, whatever forcing this far east is proving better than the the instability out west in NY so far.... at least thats how radar makes it APPEAR. When it looked like I was about to have 40dbz echoes overhead they just disappeared. Few distant rumbles. The storms we had monday and tuesday nights were much more impressive as far as thunder, lightning and wind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
free_man Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 Looks like I arrived home at the right time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
free_man Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 It's basically impossible to get svr this time of year with a S flow, forget it. Sure NY/PA and south west does fine. Hopefully we get a few nice heat ridges to start building in, if only to get ssts up. Just miserable out there, thank God for next weeks warmup. Pretty much sums it up, from five days ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted April 28, 2011 Author Share Posted April 28, 2011 Well, whatever forcing this far east is proving better than the the instability out west in NY so far.... at least thats how radar makes it APPEAR. The radar may look better as in more action but that doesn't really mean anything as far as severe goes. Remember a Severe Thunderstorm Watch is issued when atmospheric conditions are favorable for the development of severe thunderstorms, not just thunderstorms. As the cold front continued to push east the level of forcing actually increased as winds aloft, mainly in the mid levels. Plus, mid level lapse rates are a bit more steep here which is allowing for faster parcel acceleration through the atmosphere. None of the cores on these storms are very impressive anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted April 28, 2011 Author Share Posted April 28, 2011 Where the hell is this lightning/thunder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted April 28, 2011 Author Share Posted April 28, 2011 THUNDER! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalcottWx Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 The radar may look better as in more action but that doesn't really mean anything as far as severe goes. Remember a Severe Thunderstorm Watch is issued when atmospheric conditions are favorable for the development of severe thunderstorms, not just thunderstorms. As the cold front continued to push east the level of forcing actually increased as winds aloft, mainly in the mid levels. Plus, mid level lapse rates are a bit more steep here which is allowing for faster parcel acceleration through the atmosphere. None of the cores on these storms are very impressive anyways. Matt Noyes: "Given shallow nature of marine layer, resultant elevated instability and breaks of sun, watch should expand east" In any case, I agree this is a week event.. arguing over minor things Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalcottWx Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 Is that rotation on the HFD cell on velocity?? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted April 28, 2011 Author Share Posted April 28, 2011 Matt Noyes: "Given shallow nature of marine layer, resultant elevated instability and breaks of sun, watch should expand east" In any case, I agree this is a week event.. arguing over minor things IDK...they aren't even getting reports down in NJ and they've had warnings all morning and day and they've had better instability than us. Pretty impressive cell though now in central NJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 Pretty much sums it up, from five days ago. April suckage continues Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted April 28, 2011 Author Share Posted April 28, 2011 Is that rotation on the HFD cell on velocity?? lol Oh wow you're right...if I spin in my chair and look at it you can actually see some rotation! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 EF4 OTG here at the office in Windsor.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalcottWx Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 Oh wow you're right...if I spin in my chair and look at it you can actually see some rotation! hahahahahahahaha classic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 My concern that the grass seed I put down last night would wash away is being replaced by being psyched I got it down in time for a little light rain. Not too much coming here from what I can see with .11 in the bucket. 62.0/62 I might have spoken too soon...... thunder, rain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted April 28, 2011 Author Share Posted April 28, 2011 EF4 OTG here at the office in Windsor.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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