griteater Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 Hit 32 at the airport here today. Just looking back at the Op. GFS from 4 days ago, it looks like it nailed the 32 line in NC. If I recall the Euro was a little warmer on its 2m temps, valid yesterday and today on the Max temps. The GFS also nailed the 2m temps in both big outbreaks last year for NC. Most of the media outlets in CLT market had highs 40 and above for the CLT region yesterday and today. I thought the GFS did well last year with surface temperatures during the winter storms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullCityWx Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 Date: 6 day AVN valid 18Z MON 13 DEC 10 Station: 35.31,-81.23 Latitude: 35.31 Longitude: -81.23 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- LEV PRES HGHT TEMP DEWP RH DD WETB DIR SPD THETA THE-V THE-W THE-E W mb m C C % C C deg knt K K K K g/kg ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 0 1000 67 SFC 976 254 -5.3 -17.2 39 11.9 -8.1 315 19 269.7 269.9 266.4 272.6 1.02 2 950 467 -9.0 -18.7 45 9.7 -11.1 316 27 268.0 268.2 265.1 270.6 0.92 3 900 882 -13.1 -19.5 59 6.4 -14.4 317 32 268.0 268.1 265.0 270.5 0.91 4 850 1314 -17.2 -20.1 78 2.9 -17.7 319 36 268.1 268.3 265.1 270.7 0.91 5 800 1765 -20.8 -22.6 85 1.8 -21.1 324 42 269.0 269.1 265.5 271.2 0.78 6 750 2242 -19.9 -35.6 23 15.7 -21.6 336 40 275.0 275.0 268.5 275.7 0.24 7 700 2752 -21.4 -43.7 11 22.3 -23.3 330 27 278.8 278.8 270.7 279.2 0.11 8 650 3295 -24.5 -44.0 15 19.4 -26.1 312 20 281.2 281.2 272.1 281.6 0.12 9 600 3873 -28.2 -49.1 12 20.9 -29.5 283 21 283.4 283.4 273.3 283.7 0.07 10 550 4493 -31.0 -55.0 8 24.0 -32.1 275 30 287.3 287.3 275.3 287.4 0.04 11 500 5165 -33.7 -57.3 8 23.5 -34.7 280 37 291.9 291.9 277.7 292.0 0.03 12 450 5899 -36.9 -59.1 8 22.2 -37.7 285 43 296.9 296.9 280.0 297.0 0.03 13 400 6708 -39.9 -60.4 9 20.5 -40.5 289 47 303.1 303.1 282.7 303.2 0.03 14 350 7614 -42.2 -61.7 10 19.4 -42.8 291 48 311.8 311.8 286.0 311.9 0.03 15 300 8653 -43.5 -62.2 11 18.7 -44.1 289 46 324.1 324.1 290.0 324.2 0.03 16 250 9874 -45.6 -62.9 13 17.3 -46.2 282 48 338.2 338.3 293.9 338.4 0.03 17 200 11351 -48.3 -66.5 10 18.2 -48.8 273 56 356.3 356.3 298.0 356.4 0.02 18 150 13233 -50.9 -72.6 6 21.7 -51.5 272 64 382.3 382.3 302.6 382.4 0.01 19 100 15859 -52.0 -81.2 2 29.2 -52.8 267 61 427.2 427.2 308.5 427.2 0.01 TRP 0 WND 0 So that's 22.4 at the surface with a 22MPH(21.8 technically) NW wind. That comes out to a wind chill of 6º AT 18z(1PM) in the afternoon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lookout Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 Had a high here of 37 after a low of 19. Will be watching that disturbance and moisture over the plains between now and tomorrow. Models don't show any precip actually reaching the ground due to a dry boundary layer, however the nam simulated composite reflectivity suggests there could be some...especially in any banding feature. Comparing the last few runs of it's simulated reflectivity vs reality, it's been a little underdone. Soundings show it's cold enough for all snow, even in central Ga. The nam does not even get me above freezing tomorrow (no doubt in part because there should be a thick cloud cover). Gfs only shows 34 or so. Keep in mind the nam's composite reflectivity takes into account virga as well so certainly not all of this will be reaching the ground. If any does, it likely will be in an east-west band(s) the nam has been suggesting the last few runs. Interesting to note, the 18z run is the furthest north with the moisture compared to past runs. There is a chance this stays south of i-20. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itunis Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 Had a high here of 37 after a low of 19. Will be watching that disturbance and moisture over the plains between now and tomorrow. Models don't show any precip actually reaching the ground due to a dry boundary layer, however the nam simulated composite reflectivity suggests there could be some...especially in any banding feature. Comparing the last few runs of it's simulated reflectivity vs reality, it's been a little underdone. Soundings show it's cold enough for all snow, even in central Ga. The nam does not even get me above freezing tomorrow (no doubt in part because there should be a thick cloud cover). Gfs only shows 34 or so. Keep in mind the nam's composite reflectivity takes into account virga as well so certainly not all of this will be reaching the ground. If any does, it likely will be in an east-west band(s) the nam has been suggesting the last few runs. Interesting to note, the 18z run is the furthest north with the moisture compared to past runs. There is a chance this stays south of i-20. I'm feeling a virga storm east of AL. Single digit dewpoints will eat up what little looks to fall here; maybe central GA can get lucky but I have a feeling we're not going to see anything at all north of 20. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burgertime Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 I made this especially for this winter: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ncjoaquin Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 My high today 22.9. 26 at the airport. I had a day last year of 19.2 for a high. I wonder if next week can outdo that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superjames1992 Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 KGSO got up to a balmy high of 32 this afternoon in full sunshine. Amazing. The low this morning was 19. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lookout Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 I'm feeling a virga storm east of AL. Single digit dewpoints will eat up what little looks to fall here; maybe central GA can get lucky but I have a feeling we're not going to see anything at all north of 20. Well we are only talking flurries and at best brief snow showers for anyone that happens to get anything and it won't amount to anything. I do expect some to reach the ground somewhere in ga though as these types of systems often do have small pockets of light precip hit the ground, despite a dry boundary layer. As for the northern extent, there has been a slight northern trend in the moisture but I'm not saying north Georgia sees anything at all as there will be a sharp mid level moisture gradient. I'm simply saying there is a chance it creeps far enough north to give a slight chance of flurries. This is only a chance of flurries or brief snow showers even in central ga so even if it doesn't happen, that is totally expected. I would put the chance at 20 to 30%, mainly central ga. Keep in mind, Often times if there is a 30% chance of flurries/snow showers and if someone doesn't get it they consider that a bust which is absurd because there is a 70% chance you don't get it. The forecast was right if you don't get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NC_hailstorm Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 31.5 today. 24 below normal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaculaWeather Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 Well, I hit 37.0 today, about 1 degree colder than yesterday. The average temp yesterday was 15 degrees or so below normal for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullCityWx Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 The DGEX actually ends the precip as snow in most of NC/SC, in fact it ends it as snow all the way down to KCHS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEGa Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 Dewpoints portend very frigid night ahead. Wow, where are those low dew points when moisture is approaching lol Didn't break freezing here today and tonight forecast is 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itunis Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 Wow, where are those low dew points when moisture is approaching lol Didn't break freezing here today and tonight forecast is 14 Well moisture IS approaching...but it will be destroyed by the low dewpoints Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEGa Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 Well moisture IS approaching...but it will be destroyed by the low dewpoints Lol i saw lookouts post after i made that one. I guess i should have been more specific....low dewpoints with lots of reds and yellows on the radar from ga to mississipppi. Sadly me, Rosie and dawsonwx probably have the least chance of seeing any flurries as we are too far north. Of course although this is the type of system that can give a few lucky peeps some flakes. So far, mby has not had flurries so i would love to see some before this cold snap ends Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevDodd Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 Heck, at 36, Faynam may have been the hot spot for the state! Or at least away from the coast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG FROSTY Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 17 was the low here this morning, Currently a nice cool 20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
POWERSTROKE Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 one cold day today. Was out winterizing irrigation systems. Sprayed water on a sidewalk and in two minutes it turned to ice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VeronicaCorningstone Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 I made this especially for this winter: An hour later, and I'm still laughing at this. Well done It's pretty darn crisp out there right now, at 28, and dead calm at the moment - I won't be surprised if we beat the forecasted low of 18. Maybe the geniuses at Chick-Fil-A will turn off the sprinklers tonight and keep the parking lot from being an ice rink tomorrow - they certainly didn't this morning when I went to get breakfast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isopycnic Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 An hour later, and I'm still laughing at this. Well done It's pretty darn crisp out there right now, at 28, and dead calm at the moment - I won't be surprised if we beat the forecasted low of 18. Maybe the geniuses at Chick-Fil-A will turn off the sprinklers tonight and keep the parking lot from being an ice rink tomorrow - they certainly didn't this morning when I went to get breakfast. LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKY_WX Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 Anyone here have the time to explain (or share a link) how the MJO affects the STJ? I've been wondering for a while, but haven't been successful in researching it. I've been trying to improve my understanding of all the teleconnections, but about as far as I've gotten is loosely understanding the NAO, AO, and PNA. I want to learn! Here's a link to the current/past phase. http://cawcr.gov.au/....Last90days.gif You can use that plus the current season to figure out what the likely pattern is/will be down the road. We're currently in phase 4. http://www.esrl.noaa...sd/mjo/Current/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckethead Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 Here's a link to the current/past phase. http://cawcr.gov.au/....Last90days.gif You can use that plus the current season to figure out what the likely pattern is/will be down the road. We're currently in phase 4. http://www.esrl.noaa...sd/mjo/Current/ Greatly appreciated! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaculaWeather Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 This disturbance over Texas has a nice little spin to it. http://www.daculaweather.com/ridge_texas_master.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckethead Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 This disturbance over Texas has a nice little spin to it. http://www.daculawea...exas_master.php There's a nice slug of moisture streaming into it from the gulf. That is a nice spin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wx n of atl Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 temp 29 dew point 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoothillsNC Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 My high today 22.9. 26 at the airport. I had a day last year of 19.2 for a high. I wonder if next week can outdo that. You would easily be well under that if the GFS and Euro are correct in what they're showing now, probably no higher than 12 to 14. With nice squalls to boot. Already down to 22 here at 9:30pm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaculaWeather Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 There's a nice slug of moisture streaming into it from the gulf. That is a nice spin. Looking at the SPC maps, the 500mb stream takes a 90 degree turn to the east almost at the point of the spin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DopplerWx Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 The DGEX actually ends the precip as snow in most of NC/SC, in fact it ends it as snow all the way down to KCHS. for which event? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeatherNC Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 for which event? 12-13th event, model (DGEX) has a track similar to the 18z GFS ens mean, no surprise though since that model is a downscaled gfs by nam extension. Track through the tidewater area, and puts down a dusting to 2" for a good chunk of central and eastern NC, and up into VA. DGEX SN maps make for good eye candy, but are hardly ever right... http://www.emc.ncep.noaa.gov/mmb/mmbpll/dgexops.conus/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DixieBlizzard Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 I made this especially for this winter: LOL! (groundhogzilla-ish) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclonicjunkie Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 I made this especially for this winter: Too funny Burger, good job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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