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Paid the tolls...moving into winter


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Are you going to be doing the ECM ENS tonight, Will?

No, I am too tired to stay up for those tonight. I'm having enough trouble staying up for this operational run. Given I can't see the individual members, the ensemble mean probably won't be overly useful tonight anyway except for maybe talking about the general pattern down the road.

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Heavy heavy tracking and model watching in ORH on Sat night.

When did the signal for the 4th-6th start showing up in earnest? Nov 15th? earlier even? Over the years when a specific date has been flagged repeatedly it seems to me that, even if the threat is temporarily lost it very often comes back. I haven't evr given up on that time period and won't be surprised in the least if something comes to fruition. Even if it is an ENE special. It's historically been a good period as well.

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SUN NT-TUE...MODEL CONSENSUS CONTINUES TO SUGGEST A STRONG AND DEEP

UPPER LEVEL STORM SYSTEM CLOSING OFF SOMEWHERE OVER THE NORTHEAST

STATES OR OFF THE NEW ENGLAND COAST DURING THIS TIME PERIOD...WITH A

SFC LOW POSSIBLY DEVELOPING OFF THE NEW ENGLAND COAST AND THEN

BACKING NORTHWESTWARD INTO OR THROUGH SE CANADA. AT THE VERY

LEAST...THIS SHOULD ALLOW SNOW SHOWERS/FLURRIES TO INCREASE IN AREAL

COVERAGE BY MON INTO TUE...WITH SOME POTENTIAL FOR ACCUMULATING SNOW

ACROSS FAVORABLE...WEST FACING HIGHER ELEVATIONS WITHIN THE

DACKS...SCHOHARIE VALLEYGR...AND ESPECIALLY ACROSS THE SOUTHERN

GREENS/BERKS AND POSSIBLY CENTRAL AND NORTHERN TACONICS. WILL

THEREFORE INDICATE CHC POPS IN THESE AREAS...AS WELL AS FOR VALLEY

AREAS FROM ALBANY NORTHWARD...WHERE NUMEROUS SNOW SHOWERS/FLURRIES

COULD OCCUR...ESP SHOULD THE AFOREMENTIONED STORM SYSTEM BACK AS FAR

W AS SOME DETERMINISTIC MODELS SUGGEST. IN ADDITION...EXPECT RATHER

BLUSTERY CONDITIONS WITH BELOW SEASONAL TEMPS...ESP FOR DAYTIME

MAXES...WHICH SHOULD GENERALLY RANGE FROM THE LOWER/MID 30S WITHIN

MOST VALLEYS...TO THE 20S FOR HIGHER ELEVATIONS...WITH OVERNIGHT

MINS MAINLY IN THE 20S...EXCEPT FOR SOME TEENS ACROSS HIGHER

ELEVATIONS.

Works for me even if it's still out there in time.

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SUN NT-TUE...MODEL CONSENSUS CONTINUES TO SUGGEST A STRONG AND DEEP

UPPER LEVEL STORM SYSTEM CLOSING OFF SOMEWHERE OVER THE NORTHEAST

STATES OR OFF THE NEW ENGLAND COAST DURING THIS TIME PERIOD...WITH A

SFC LOW POSSIBLY DEVELOPING OFF THE NEW ENGLAND COAST AND THEN

BACKING NORTHWESTWARD INTO OR THROUGH SE CANADA. AT THE VERY

LEAST...THIS SHOULD ALLOW SNOW SHOWERS/FLURRIES TO INCREASE IN AREAL

COVERAGE BY MON INTO TUE...WITH SOME POTENTIAL FOR ACCUMULATING SNOW

ACROSS FAVORABLE...WEST FACING HIGHER ELEVATIONS WITHIN THE

DACKS...SCHOHARIE VALLEYGR...AND ESPECIALLY ACROSS THE SOUTHERN

GREENS/BERKS AND POSSIBLY CENTRAL AND NORTHERN TACONICS. WILL

THEREFORE INDICATE CHC POPS IN THESE AREAS...AS WELL AS FOR VALLEY

AREAS FROM ALBANY NORTHWARD...WHERE NUMEROUS SNOW SHOWERS/FLURRIES

COULD OCCUR...ESP SHOULD THE AFOREMENTIONED STORM SYSTEM BACK AS FAR

W AS SOME DETERMINISTIC MODELS SUGGEST. IN ADDITION...EXPECT RATHER

BLUSTERY CONDITIONS WITH BELOW SEASONAL TEMPS...ESP FOR DAYTIME

MAXES...WHICH SHOULD GENERALLY RANGE FROM THE LOWER/MID 30S WITHIN

MOST VALLEYS...TO THE 20S FOR HIGHER ELEVATIONS...WITH OVERNIGHT

MINS MAINLY IN THE 20S...EXCEPT FOR SOME TEENS ACROSS HIGHER

ELEVATIONS.

Works for me even if it's still out there in time.

Too bad it's for "west facing slopes".

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Steve was the one that wanted to see the images, nobody else. I also I could not post them because they are proprietary and not free. It was done as a courtesy. My original intent was to point out where Kevin got his information. If you are going to quote someone, say who or reference who it is.

I would never give credit to anyone at SV after what they did..sorry

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Nice to see the Euro and GGEM back on board with the s/w and light snow event 12/5-12/6 as we thought..Looks like a snowy Monday

It does? I better look take another look. I was just thinking the conversation on Saturday would be over "imagine how cold this upcoming shot would be if we had snow cover".

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Esp for Eastern areas..but plenty of time to bring it west..don't worry

IIRC, any model runs of the past week that showed snow were exclusive of western areas of SNE. As I said earlier, it would be ironic if we're the ones that actually get some. Even 5-6 days out, I have little confidence in wintry weather beyond some nipply temperatures.

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I would never give credit to anyone at SV after what they did..sorry

What did they do? Go out and make a few bucks? Jack's done what we'd all like. Make wx go from hobby to business.

Nice trend on the Euro.

Incidentally, GFS refuses to lose the d12 bomb. I find that in itself interesting.

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What did they do? Go out and make a few bucks? Jack's done what we'd all like. Make wx go from hobby to business.

Nice trend on the Euro.

Incidentally, GFS refuses to lose the d12 bomb. I find that in itself interesting.

You do know Jack passed away this week right? May he rest in peace.

Agreed nice trend and one we thought would happen

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The euro ensembles are also similar to the op but still offshore.

The other thing we need to watch is for the pattern to become milder. The flow may become more zonal across the west, which opens up the door to a more gradient pattern after 12/11 or so. It's not a lock by any means..just something I'm noticing.

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