Hoosier Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 PRELIMINARY LOCAL STORM REPORT NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE CHICAGO/ROMEOVILLE IL 1006 AM CDT MON APR 18 2011 .TIME... ...EVENT... ...CITY LOCATION... ...LAT.LON .DATE... ....MAG.... ..COUNTY LOCATION..ST.. ...SOURCE. ..REMARKS.. 1005 AM SNOW WADSWORTH 42.44N 87.92W 04/18/2011 M2.8 INCH LAKE IL BROADCAST MEDIA STORM TOTAL 2.8 INCHES. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thundersnow12 Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 PRELIMINARY LOCAL STORM REPORT NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE CHICAGO/ROMEOVILLE IL 1006 AM CDT MON APR 18 2011 .TIME... ...EVENT... ...CITY LOCATION... ...LAT.LON .DATE... ....MAG.... ..COUNTY LOCATION..ST.. ...SOURCE. ..REMARKS.. 1005 AM SNOW WADSWORTH 42.44N 87.92W 04/18/2011 M2.8 INCH LAKE IL BROADCAST MEDIA STORM TOTAL 2.8 INCHES. Caplan's home turf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k*** Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 lolz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerball Posted April 18, 2011 Author Share Posted April 18, 2011 LOL!!! Detroit fell exactly 0.1" short of tieing for a top 5 season, and 0.2" short of taking over the top 5 spot. Now that just breaks the camel's back there. The only reason I wanted this snowfall event was so this season could be placed in the top 5, and to stop SO CLOSE to that is really just a kick in the nuts in addition to an already awful spring so far. I may even adjust my winter grade downward for this travesty. 1149 AM SNOW ROMULUS 42.22N 83.37W04/18/2011 M1.5 INCH WAYNE MI OFFICIAL NWS OB SNOW TOTAL FOR DETROIT METRO AIRPORT I just pray they send in ONE MORE REPORT with that additional 0.1" to 0.2" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k*** Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 omg...it'd be like the worst thing ever if detroit doesn't end up top-5 all time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ajdos Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 LOL!!! Detroit fell exactly 0.1" short of tieing for a top 5 season, and 0.2" short of taking over the top 5 spot. Now that just breaks the camel's back there. The only reason I wanted this snowfall event was so this season could be placed in the top 5, and to stop SO CLOSE to that is really just a kick in the nuts in addition to an already awful spring so far. I may even adjust my winter grade downward for this travesty. I just pray they send in ONE MORE REPORT with that additional 0.1" to 0.2" We might get some snow tonight into tmrw. That might put us over, hopefully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerball Posted April 18, 2011 Author Share Posted April 18, 2011 omg...it'd be like the worst thing ever if detroit doesn't end up top-5 all time Troll says whhhaaaattt!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo6899 Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 omg...it'd be like the worst thing ever if detroit doesn't end up top-5 all time It's just something that would've been better since we are from the detroit area. The worlds not going to end but a top 5 winter would be quite an achievement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ajdos Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 Troll says whhhaaaattt!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 In Lake Cty this week north of Chicago. Nice snow surprise this morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtlehurricane Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 Kush brings up a good point in that it doesn't matter if it missed the top 5 at all. Especially considering the error associated with snowfall measurement exceeds 0.2" for a single storm, let alone the whole season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago Storm Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 Troll says whhhaaaattt!? Your post was full of Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerball Posted April 18, 2011 Author Share Posted April 18, 2011 Kush brings up a good point in that it doesn't matter if it missed the top 5 at all. Especially considering the error associated with snowfall measurement exceeds 0.2" for a single storm, let alone the whole season. From a purely statistical standpoint it matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hm8 Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 612 SXUS73 KDTX 182038 RERDTX RECORD EVENT REPORT NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DETROIT/PONTIAC MI 0429 PM EDT MON APR 18 2011 ...RECORD DAILY MAXIMUM SNOWFALL SET AT DETROIT MI... A RECORD SNOWFALL OF 1.6 INCHES WAS SET AT DETROIT MI TODAY. THIS BREAKS THE OLD RECORD OF 0.3 SET IN 1969. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hm8 Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 Got 2 inches here, brings my winter total to a nice even 50"....only about 20" lower then everywhere else in SEMI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerball Posted April 18, 2011 Author Share Posted April 18, 2011 Great. At least we tied it. And the spotter report.... 0146 PM SNOW ROMULUS 42.22N 83.37W04/18/2011 M1.6 INCH WAYNE MI OFFICIAL NWS OB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hm8 Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 Great. At least we tied it. I think we have a good shot at passing it with the onset of this next system.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hm8 Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 Forgot to mention it, but... I've never heard more expletives thrown at falling snow then I did today at school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kab2791 Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 1" here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 Ended up with 1.3" imby to bring my season total to 69.4". Precip total was 0.17", and it was 100% snow, no rain or sleet at onset. DTW had 1.6" (precip 0.21") to bring the season total to 69.1", a tie for 5th place. Can we squeeze something out tonight? Some pics from this morning. Despite a high temp of 21 degrees below normal for April 18th, snow has completely melted except for where cars were brushed off and little piles remain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 Wow, some of you guys in Michigan had more snow today than we've had total since Feb 2. Congrats! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtlehurricane Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 From a purely statistical standpoint it matters. No it does not since it is within the margin of error. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 Wow, some of you guys in Michigan had more snow today than we've had total since Feb 2. Congrats! Thanks. You definitely had a more frontloaded winter while we had a more backloaded winter. Of my 69.4" on the season, 32.1" fell AFTER February 3rd, aka, after the blizzard that was the "star" event in what was a harsh winter for most of the midwest. You throw in the 10.1" from the blizzard, and I saw 42.2" since Feb 1st, which is basically an entire seasons worth, when the normal from Feb 1st on is about 18"! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 No it does not since it is within the margin of error. Yes it does matter from a statistical point of view. Had DTW gotten the 1.5" that was reported a little before the snow ended, it would have put the season at 6th place at 69.0", but since they ended with 1.6" and a season total of 69.1", it ties for 5th place. You will get no argument from me that there is a margin of error with measuring snowfall. Hell, snowfall is one of the most interesting statistics to me, but I will admit the margin of error can be huge, especially in wind-driven events, changeover events, very wet or very fluffy snow events. Some of those big storms that have struck the east the past few winters, glancing at some of the measurments and comparing them to nearby areas, it wouldnt surprise me if many of them were off by several INCHES let alone several tenths (either way, but probably more on the inflated side rather than the lowballed sided, due to drifting). I also am the first to say that pure seasonal snowfall amount is FAR from the sole factor in determining how great a winter is. For many, the biggest snowstorm matters, for me its snowcover (which in 2010-11 was the best locally Ive ever seen). So had 1.5" fallen at DTW versus 1.6" yesterday, it would have meant nothing in terms of how great the winter was....but in this case it DOES mean something for where it ranks. Bottom line, that same margin of error was there in the winter of 1899-00 when 69.1" also was recorded at Detroit. Weather statistics interest many of us on this board, and to say that margin of error means it doesnt matter from a statistical point of view is just plain silly. Whatever the official station comes in with does matter to the exact tenth of an inch when you are talking season rankings, and most major cities in our region have seen at least 5 of the past 10 winters end up in the "top XX snowiest" ranking. Do we disregard the Feb blizzard as being Chicagos 3rd biggest snowstorm on record, and just say it was a great storm, because measuring was so difficult? Of course not. And also, how many times have we seen on these boards someone mad because the official station near them came in with what they felt was a lowballed measurment? To the public, the exacts dont matter. But for official snowfall statistics, every single tenth of an inch (or lack there of) matters! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 Thought this video was cool..."Winters Last Stand". The Detroit Free Press is always doing videos and putting them online http://www.freep.com/videonetwork/909776648001/Winter-s-Last-Stand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartyOn Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 Best part about this event. Watching 2+ inches of snow melt in about 2 hours. Long Live the April Sun!!!!! Ole Man Winter its time for you to take a hike!!! You Suck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartyOn Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 Michigan will pay for this snowy Winter. It always seems to happen. LOL Would not be shocked to see that if next Winter we get royally screwed in the snow department. Although it would just take that 20+ inch Blizzard to make me happy. This is based off no guidance or info...But it seems like we are due for a Torched Winter and that Epic Blizzard! Bring em on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 Best part about this event. Watching 2+ inches of snow melt in about 2 hours. Long Live the April Sun!!!!! Ole Man Winter its time for you to take a hike!!! You Suck! Its definitely the time of year, but the snow melted without aid of any sun lol. That thick blanket of clouds has hidden the sun for days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 Michigan will pay for this snowy Winter. It always seems to happen. LOL Would not be shocked to see that if next Winter we get royally screwed in the snow department. Although it would just take that 20+ inch Blizzard to make me happy. This is based off no guidance or info...But it seems like we are due for a Torched Winter and that Epic Blizzard! Bring em on. Weve had so many snowy winters lately (though all things considered this winter sits on top for severity), I admit it DOES worry me a LITTLE, if nothing else than for karma...but if a weak Nina hangs on and just the general cycle we seem to be in (snowy), Id say a really screwed winter of 2011-12 is not likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerball Posted April 20, 2011 Author Share Posted April 20, 2011 The good part is since we've been screwed (on a relative basis) in the severe weather and heat department during these snowy times an awful winter whenver it does come would give way to quite the summer severe weather and heat wise, AKA my type of summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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