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2010-2011 SNE snowfall map

ORH_wxman

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ORH_wxman

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All in favor of a TO for this dude, say "I"...

He's made his own reputation on here. We already went over the debacle he had with your personal life this winter. There is no need to vouch for him getting suspended. If he claims "favoritism", I will always say something that has almost always been true on this board....you make your own bed.

I know not everyone is going to agree with every half a millimeter contour on my 6-8 inch map on a computer screen, but I will not change it unless there is good evidence. The most surprising part is that I changed it in favor of his area up to Goffstown, NH...then he decided afterward to accuse me of lying and focus on SW Hillsborough county where he was talking out of his azz and had zero data (and I did have data) and try to come across as a tough "know it all" and tell me I was wrong.

That will piss a person off. If he doesn't understand that, then I do not know what to tell BIrving. I've met him and he seemed like a decent guy. But apparently he gets his jollies by being a tough guy on the internet accusing me of deliberately lying about snowfall totals in SW Hillsborough county....because that benefits me a lot. As a professional met, I like to strive to be inaccurate. :lol:

I'm here to make an accurate snowfall map. No more, no less. I have done this for 5 years now.

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He's made his own reputation on here. We already went over the debacle he had with your personal life this winter. There is no need to vouch for him getting suspended. If he claims "favoritism", I will always say something that has almost always been true on this board....you make your own bed.

I know not everyone is going to agree with every half a millimeter contour on my 6-8 inch map on a computer screen, but I will not change it unless there is good evidence. The most surprising part is that I changed it in favor of his area up to Goffstown, NH...then he decided afterward to accuse me of lying and focus on SW Hillsborough county where he was talking out of his azz and had zero data (and I did have data) and try to come across as a tough "know it all" and tell me I was wrong.

That will piss a person off. If he doesn't understand that, then I do not know what to tell BIrving. I've met him and he seemed like a decent guy. But apparently he gets his jollies by being a tough guy on the internet accusing me of deliberately lying about snowfall totals in SW Hillsborough county....because that benefits me a lot. As a professional met, I like to strive to be inaccurate. :lol:

I'm here to make an accurate snowfall map. No more, no less. I have done this for 5 years now.

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Yes, it's quite clear the whole point of your painstakingly detailed five-year project as a professional meteorologist is to underreport snowfall totals in SW Hillsborough County whenever humanly possible. Even if you know of multiple storms this year in which they got screwed on the PNS totals, you should add a 90" contour because BIrving knows "it snows a lot out there." Sure...

But, on the other hand Will, you do only have 68" here....the good parts of S Westchester got more than that. So I have beef too scooter.gifJust kidding, your map is awesome and will shortly become my desktop background. It's really hard to please weenies who deliberately buy real estate based on its being the most beneficial location for snow in the region. They might get a little bit more than the average homeowner. Hell, I don't want to move to one of those apartments in downtown Yonkers next to the Hudson, attractive as they are sun.gif

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In all seriousness, though Will, I think the 70" contour should extend just a tad bit farther down the Westchester coastline, on the east side. Places right along the LI Sound, even just a bit north of the Bronx border like New Rochelle, had an exceptionally good winter compared to climo for the county. Snowlover measured a bit over 70" in Bronxville, and I know those areas like Bronxville/New Rochelle/Mt Vernon beat me in several events including Boxing Day (a lot of the PNS reports from Upton were like 18" in extreme Southern Westchester, and I only got a bit over a foot.)...they also would have beaten me in 1/27 because the SW CT band's tail extended down to SE Westchester for longer than it remained here, while it destroyed North Haven to H20townWX land...

If you consider that I ended up with 69.5" even with a very conservative measurement on Boxing Day and only 14" on 1/27, and they beat me handily on those events looking at radars/spotters in Westchester, I could see the justification for going a bit farther with the 70" mark.

Not a big deal though, certainly a close call and any area has its microclimates which can't completely be accounted for on a regional map. Certainly some terrain/climate differences btwn. the Hudson River at 0' elevation here and the top hills at like 450' in the woods. You have continued a wonderful project and researched extremely well...the map overall looks amazing!

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Also Will, any meteorologist or even "to be" has drawn more than enough contour maps in their day to do this. We are fortunate to have so many observers right here on this forum that are collecting reasonably reliable data for you to even begin this venture, lord knows how hard it would be in the 80s or 90s. I do appreciate what you do, all things aside.

I don't live in either of those areas, though. I am speaking for the areas that were NOT screwed by several SE cutting systems that fringed us here and totally screwed SW NH.

I believe we did better here and especially the foothills near and over 1000', than 20 mi west and south towards EEN/Ashburnham. That is my point!

There were several reports from SNH above 90". Didn't the poster in Bow show 91"? 95" here, which you should have no reason to contest. It seems you're just being the contrarian , some bias showing ? lol

it is Will that should care because I would guess he is pretty picky about getting it pretty close to 100% perfect , after putting the time in to organize it on an annual basis. I was not begging anyone to do anything, more giving him a hard time. I also don't really have time to go through every PNS and start nit picking (like I should), so that is my fault.

It is still the same old image on my screen, haven't seen any new one. For all I knew you were just being sarcastic, again.

To be fair, I asked you specifically about the Milford and Jaffery totals, didn't get a response. You did not give me a chance to be specific.

It's fine, lol. Will trolled me as well, by lying about Milford NH "nowhere near 90" type bravado ... Who's next lol Pete? zzz

Oh, now it's a concrete 76! Thanks for publishing that after the reactionary post. I'm being trolled by modsta..

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Yes, it's quite clear the whole point of your painstakingly detailed five-year project as a professional meteorologist is to underreport snowfall totals in SW Hillsborough County whenever humanly possible. Even if you know of multiple storms this year in which they got screwed on the PNS totals, you should add a 90" contour because BIrving knows "it snows a lot out there." Sure...

But, on the other hand Will, you do only have 68" here....the good parts of S Westchester got more than that. So I have beef too scooter.gifJust kidding, your map is awesome and will shortly become my desktop background. It's really hard to please weenies who deliberately buy real estate based on its being the most beneficial location for snow in the region. They might get a little bit more than the average homeowner. Hell, I don't want to move to one of those apartments in downtown Yonkers next to the Hudson, attractive as they are sun.gif

I can tell you one thing-- Will's map for here is a lot more accurate than what the observer at JFK mismeasured (or simply just took a vacation for a couple of storms.)

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Nice job as always Will... Not sure if it matters since it is a SNE snow map but im almost 100% sure most of eastern Orange County here in the HV cleared 80".. The boxing day event really divided the county in half. Here in the west we received anywhere from 3-13" while most areas east of Goshen NY in the county received 24"+..

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I havent finished the map totally, but I'm sure you are pretty happy with it...you were not far off this year unlike last year, and I will be updating the Berkshire snow totals when I get more data in on the 4/23 event. BIrving accusing me of lying to get my jollies off by reporting less snow than there actually was in SW NH is pretty petty and obviously a ridiculous claim given the reports I have...apparently I'm biased because I want to report less snow in Milford NH and deliberately lie about their snow totals. That's what I strive for every year...to lie on my own map about snow in SW Hillsborough county.

I enjoy seeing the map evry year Will. I was fastidious in measuring again this year and gave the placement of my snowboard priority even though it meant snowshoeing out to it for a good part of the Winter. Not sure what BIrving is going on about but evidently it means a lot to him. Having met you in person several times you certainly don't strike me as one that would be prone to lying but perhaps you have a vendetta to settle with SW NH.lol

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He's made his own reputation on here. We already went over the debacle he had with your personal life this winter. There is no need to vouch for him getting suspended. If he claims "favoritism", I will always say something that has almost always been true on this board....you make your own bed.

I know not everyone is going to agree with every half a millimeter contour on my 6-8 inch map on a computer screen, but I will not change it unless there is good evidence. The most surprising part is that I changed it in favor of his area up to Goffstown, NH...then he decided afterward to accuse me of lying and focus on SW Hillsborough county where he was talking out of his azz and had zero data (and I did have data) and try to come across as a tough "know it all" and tell me I was wrong.

That will piss a person off. If he doesn't understand that, then I do not know what to tell BIrving. I've met him and he seemed like a decent guy. But apparently he gets his jollies by being a tough guy on the internet accusing me of deliberately lying about snowfall totals in SW Hillsborough county....because that benefits me a lot. As a professional met, I like to strive to be inaccurate. :lol:

I'm here to make an accurate snowfall map. No more, no less. I have done this for 5 years now.

Then stop trolling me and let it go. I was right in this case. Deal with it, it happens occasionally. You never looked for data, PNS, anything, so don't tell me there is zero data. Must I hold your hand in YOUR profession? Do you honestly think I would bring it up for nothing, just to be controversial or debate, or there really might be a problem or error?

Three posters on here in SNH (at least) had near 90" or more, that should be a little concerning when you have a wide 80-89" contour .

Again, if you have a weak link in your armor, you fix it. You don't b**ch about it, ignore it and concentrate on what you already know....that gets you nowhere.

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Then stop trolling me and let it go. I was right in this case. Deal with it, it happens occasionally. You never looked for data, PNS, anything, so don't tell me there is zero data. Must I hold your hand in YOUR profession? Do you honestly think I would bring it up for nothing, just to be controversial or debate, or there really might be a problem or error?

Three posters on here in SNH (at least) had near 90" or more, that should be a little concerning when you have a wide 80-89" contour .

Again, if you have a weak link in your armor, you fix it. You don't b**ch about it, ignore it and concentrate on what you already know....that gets you nowhere.

Huh? "I look very carefully at PNS plots and also synoptic setups along with several other reports before I put contours in."

This is also a work in progress and like he said...if there is sufficient evidence, it will be adjusted. Busting his chops now isn't going to help.

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Heavy heavy stripe of snow from NE CT thru ORH to GAY... Perfect placement this year

I think the big reason was the Jan 11/12 storm. I would have been right there, but I was a 33F snow for many hours. You took the cake in the Jan 27th storm.

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Then stop trolling me and let it go. I was right in this case. Deal with it, it happens occasionally. You never looked for data, PNS, anything, so don't tell me there is zero data. Must I hold your hand in YOUR profession? Do you honestly think I would bring it up for nothing, just to be controversial or debate, or there really might be a problem or error?

Three posters on here in SNH (at least) had near 90" or more, that should be a little concerning when you have a wide 80-89" contour .

Again, if you have a weak link in your armor, you fix it. You don't b**ch about it, ignore it and concentrate on what you already know....that gets you nowhere.

STFU already.

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Will-- you go through such effort to make an accurate map... why plot your work on the most hideous base map possible? The image quality snob in me has been keeping this question bottled up for years.

Don't hit me plz.

I bet he hates NH right about now.
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Then stop trolling me and let it go. I was right in this case. Deal with it, it happens occasionally. You never looked for data, PNS, anything, so don't tell me there is zero data. Must I hold your hand in YOUR profession? Do you honestly think I would bring it up for nothing, just to be controversial or debate, or there really might be a problem or error?

Three posters on here in SNH (at least) had near 90" or more, that should be a little concerning when you have a wide 80-89" contour .

Again, if you have a weak link in your armor, you fix it. You don't b**ch about it, ignore it and concentrate on what you already know....that gets you nowhere.

All I'm going to say is that it's way beyond time to let it go. There's no reason for anyone to be condescending.
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I bet he hates NH right about now.

LOL.

Great map, Will. Always enjoy looking at all the little nuances of SNE snowfall. I obviously have no horse in this race, but I love the Blue Hills number... just goes to show how much snowfall the coastal areas would get with another 500ft of elevation.

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