weatherwiz Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 This could be a fun night! More action developing off to the SW and looks like we will continue to stay fairly unstable aloft through the night. Looks like things should hold nicely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 probably a positive strike. It was a nice one! Long lasting too. Raining really hard now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arnold214 Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 This could be a fun night! More action developing off to the SW and looks like we will continue to stay fairly unstable aloft through the night. Looks like things should hold nicely. what is that image? There's no label. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ice1972 Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 HOLY CRAP!!! I just deuced myself....that was really loud....sweet... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 Phil might have a nice surprise on the Cape in a few hours...have to see how well that stuff holds but it's looking sweet over the waters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 There's quite a few CG strikes showing up on lightning data too although I'm sure most of it is in cloud. I kind of miss Texas when convection talk starts up here. Kansas for you? We used to get some monsters in the month of March. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 what is that image? There's no label. MCS maintenance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ineedsnow Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 thunder and lightning here sucks i have to be up in 3 hours for work!! The bar was fun though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arnold214 Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 I kind of miss Texas when convection talk starts up here. Kansas for you? We used to get some monsters in the month of March. yeah, those storms are orders of magnitude more impressive. But occasionally you get a rare treat around here. I was just looking at some radar data from a tornadic storm up here from last summer (6/5/10). It was only 15 miles north of where I currently live. I probably would have chased it...and I would only chase 0.5% of the storms that happen up here, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 As the storms move further away from the strongest low-level WAA they are losing some of their steam as far as lightning goes...not much in the way of elevated instability just north of the strongest push of WAA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 ME can have some pretty nasty t'storms. In fact, I would say some of the best storms that occur in our region probably happen in ME. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ineedsnow Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 lightning is pretty good here As the storms move further away from the strongest low-level WAA they are losing some of their steam as far as lightning goes...not much in the way of elevated instability just north of the strongest push of WAA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 yeah, those storms are orders of magnitude more impressive. But occasionally you get a rare treat around here. I was just looking at some radar data from a tornadic storm up here from last summer (6/5/10). It was only 15 miles north of where I currently live. I probably would have chased it...and I would only chase 0.5% of the storms that happen up here, lol. I was in Texas in late March of 2005 as winter was ending here...and I wasnt even paying that much attention to the wx...I remember we were in "see text" for SPC and never thought twice about it since its normal to be in that in March and April almost 2-3 days per week if the pattern is active. We got a monster storm that night. I was out at a bar that night in Austin and all of the sudden we got f**king golfballs ripping form the skiy and it was serious...messing up some cars too. I was speechless just watching them fall as I was smoking a butt, lol. Minor except here http://www.businessinsurance.com/article/20050331/NEWS/20005295 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 lightning is pretty good here Lightning was pretty decent here but it really wasn't consistent, the consistency of the flashes rapidly diminished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 I was in Texas in late March of 2005 as winter was ending here...and I wasnt even paying that much attention to the wx...I remember we were in "see text" for SPC and never thought twice about it since its normal to be in that in March and April almost 2-3 days per week if the pattern is active. We got a monster storm that night. I was out at a bar that night in Austin and all of the sudden we got f**king golfballs ripping form the skiy and it was serious...messing up some cars too. I was speechless just watching them fall as I was smoking a butt, lol. Minor except here http://www.businessi...1/NEWS/20005295 That's sick...I want to see golf ball-sized hail so badly...or bigger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arnold214 Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 I was in Texas in late March of 2005 as winter was ending here...and I wasnt even paying that much attention to the wx...I remember we were in "see text" for SPC and never thought twice about it since its normal to be in that in March and April almost 2-3 days per week if the pattern is active. We got a monster storm that night. I was out at a bar that night in Austin and all of the sudden we got f**king golfballs ripping form the skiy and it was serious...messing up some cars too. I was speechless just watching them fall as I was smoking a butt, lol. Minor except here http://www.businessinsurance.com/article/20050331/NEWS/20005295 I was pounded by baseball size hail on I-20 near midland, TX in May of 1999. If goes from really cool to really scary very quickly when there's nowhere to go for shelter. Miraculously, our windshield wasn't busted out, but many people had it happen. BTW...kinda off topic...semi interesting event possible this afternoon and evening in the western maine mountains. I somewhat reluctantly put up an advisory for a mix of precip (mainly for fzra) even tho it's april. The SREF probs for FZRA were very impressive and the NAM forecast soundings for places at 1-3 kft near jackman were highly supportive of freezing rain so we'll see what happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 That's sick...I want to see golf ball-sized hail so badly...or bigger. It was sick...that storm produced a tor like 4 miles east of Austin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 Speaking of large hail, tomorrow could have some sick supercells out in OK/KS...I wouldn't be surprised if we saw a few 4-4.75'' hail reports tomorrow if everything comes together like what is modeled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 I was pounded by baseball size hail on I-20 near midland, TX in May of 1999. If goes from really cool to really scary very quickly when there's nowhere to go for shelter. Miraculously, our windshield wasn't busted out, but many people had it happen. BTW...kinda off topic...semi interesting event possible this afternoon and evening in the western maine mountains. I somewhat reluctantly put up an advisory for a mix of precip (mainly for fzra) even tho it's april. The SREF probs for FZRA were very impressive and the NAM forecast soundings for places at 1-3 kft near jackman were highly supportive of freezing rain so we'll see what happens. Golfballs seems to be the threshold for windshield damage....sometimes it produces it, and sometimes it doesn't. I'm surprised you survived baseball hail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arnold214 Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 Golfballs seems to be the threshold for windshield damage....sometimes it produces it, and sometimes it doesn't. I'm surprised you survived baseball hail. Just got lucky. There was a huge dent on and around the rubber strip a half inch above the windshield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 It was sick...that storm produced a tor like 4 miles east of Austin. It's kind of amazing you don't see more heavily populated areas in TX get hit more often with tornadoes...but then again TX is a pretty massive state and I'd guess only a small percentage of it is actually heavily populated. I forget what TX averages per year for tornadoes but I'm quite sure it's well over 70-80. I know in the spring months (MAM) they averaged 60.08 from 1950-2009. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 It's kind of amazing you don't see more heavily populated areas in TX get hit more often with tornadoes...but then again TX is a pretty massive state and I'd guess only a small percentage of it is actually heavily populated. I forget what TX averages per year for tornadoes but I'm quite sure it's well over 70-80. I know in the spring months (MAM) they averaged 60.08 from 1950-2009. Texas is massive...closest call in recent years i think is the Jarrell TX tor. My dad was out in North Austin (where he lived) during that storm...he said the sky got black and then there was a massive gust of wind that sent trash barrels and it uprooted saplings in the neighborhood sending them clean down the street. But luckily for him the tor died in Cedar Park, TX which is about 6 miles north of where he was...it died rapidly because it was a F3 when it entered Cedar Park. It actually killed a few people in that town. That was May 27, 1997. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arnold214 Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 Texas is massive...closest call in recent years i think is the Jarrell TX tor. My dad was out in North Austin (where he lived) during that storm...he said the sky got black and then there was a massive gust of wind that sent trash barrels and it uprooted saplings in the neighborhood sending them clean down the street. But luckily for him the tor died in Cedar Park, TX which is about 6 miles north of where he was...it died rapidly because it was a F3 when it entered Cedar Park. It actually killed a few people in that town. That was May 27, 1997. I saw a few tors in eastern OK the day before Jarrell. Biggest CAPE day I ever chased...6800 J/KG. -13 to -14 LI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 Texas is massive...closest call in recent years i think is the Jarrell TX tor. My dad was out in North Austin (where he lived) during that storm...he said the sky got black and then there was a massive gust of wind that sent trash barrels and it uprooted saplings in the neighborhood sending them clean down the street. But luckily for him the tor died in Cedar Park, TX which is about 6 miles north of where he was...it died rapidly because it was a F3 when it entered Cedar Park. It actually killed a few people in that town. That was May 27, 1997. I think I vaguely remember that actually, saw footage from that on TWC at the time. Hearing Cedar Park rings a bell. I might be wrong on this but I believe most of the tornadoes that occur in TX occur out in the western part of the state and then into portions of the southern part of the state and this area is much more sparsely populated than the northeast quadrant of the state. You get alot of really nasty supercells that cross over from NM and do a number of the western part of the state. I remember this from from April 25th, 2007 (it might have been a few days before this) but a SICK supercell crossed over from NM...this was the Eagle Pass tornado. This tornado caused a little bit of a stir b/c a tornado warning wasn't issued until the very last minute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 I saw a few tors in eastern OK the day before Jarrell. Biggest CAPE day I ever chased...6800 J/KG. The most bizarre thing about Jarrell is that is moved SW while other severe storms were simultaneously moving from W to E. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 I saw a few tors in eastern OK the day before Jarrell. Biggest CAPE day I ever chased...6800 J/KG. -13 to -14 LI. There's a sounding you'll never see around here Nice EML aloft too with that impressive area of very low dews. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 I think I vaguely remember that actually, saw footage from that on TWC at the time. Hearing Cedar Park rings a bell. I might be wrong on this but I believe most of the tornadoes that occur in TX occur out in the western part of the state and then into portions of the southern part of the state and this area is much more sparsely populated than the northeast quadrant of the state. You get alot of really nasty supercells that cross over from NM and do a number of the western part of the state. I remember this from from April 25th, 2007 (it might have been a few days before this) but a SICK supercell crossed over from NM...this was the Eagle Pass tornado. This tornado caused a little bit of a stir b/c a tornado warning wasn't issued until the very last minute. The TOR jackpot of Texas is actually in the panhandle near Amarillo and down toward Lubbock and actually across the border into Clovis NM. They get hammered...a very popular spot for early season chasing. The Dallas area is also another local jackpot...the Austin area down toward Del Rio is actually not a big TOR area...but they can obviously get them, and they have their fair share of huge hail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arnold214 Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 The most bizarre thing about Jarrell is that is moved SW while other severe storms were simultaneously moving from W to E. Believe it or not it was basically a landspout on crack. Had a nice boundary to track along with tremendous instability to work with for stretching the updraft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 The most bizarre thing about Jarrell is that is moved SW while other severe storms were simultaneously moving from W to E. So it was a left mover? Pretty sick. Was there some sort of outflow boundary that helped to push it in that direction? Or did it develop along any sort of outflow boundary? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 So it was a left mover? Pretty sick. Was there some sort of outflow boundary that helped to push it in that direction? Or did it develop along any sort of outflow boundary? See Arnold's post from above...I'm not an expert on that stuff....but it def had a very defined boundary which was obscenely visible on the vis satellite. But it was still weird that it traveled directly SW without an ounce of eastward movement while other storms were going W to E off to the west of it. It was an absolute monster storm though. It blew up before any of the storms to it's west blew up...it was the first storm of that outbreak. Probably preceded the others by 2 hours in its berth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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