SBUWX23 Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 What is the significance in looking at most unstable cape in this scenario compared to mixed layer? Just to asses overall stability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theodometer Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 Line just came through my location in Rock Hill in last 20 minutes or so. About 10 minutes of heavy rain and wind--and then done. Kind of disappointing...hoping for more rain overnight or I'm gonna have to turn my sprinklers back on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeatherNC Posted December 1, 2010 Author Share Posted December 1, 2010 Thanks, I still have a lot of reading to do on the subject and was under the impression that ml most accurately reflected the cape available, but could in some cases underestimate potential as it only shows the lowest 100 mb layer, i.e. if most of the energy was on or near the surface. Just stepped outside, feels a little muggier compared to earlier this evening. -RN atm, heavier at times, and a bit breezy, in the 10-15 mph range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBUWX23 Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 Thanks, I still have a lot of reading to do on the subject and was under the impression that ml most accurately reflected the cape available, but could in some cases underestimate potential as it only shows the lowest 100 mb layer, i.e. if most of the energy was on or near the surface. Just stepped outside, feels a little muggier compared to earlier this evening. -RN atm, heavier at times, and a bit breezy, in the 10-15 mph range. MLCAPE is probably the best parameter to use since mixing is cooking tonight with the SE flow. As long as the parcel is lifted in this mixed layer and there is cape then it accelerates. I always look at MUCAPE this year though since you sometimes have the shallow stable layers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snow haven Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 storms seem to be falling apart a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBUWX23 Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 storms seem to be falling apart a bit. Its deceiving as the line is now over a not well sampled region. The beams may be overshooting the majority of the convection at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBUWX23 Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 Line as observed by the TCLT radar. This radar helps to fill the void right now as KGSP and KRAH beams are overshooting the majority of the convection down there.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 MESOSCALE DISCUSSION 2105 NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK 1202 AM CST WED DEC 01 2010 AREAS AFFECTED...ERN CAROLINAS CONCERNING...SEVERE POTENTIAL...WATCH POSSIBLE VALID 010602Z - 010800Z THE AREA IS BEING MONITORED FOR AN INCREASE IN CONVECTIVE COVERAGE AND INTENSITY...AND A WW COULD BE REQUIRED. RADAR SHOWS STORMS INCREASING OVER THE WRN ATLANTIC ALONG A LOW LEVEL CONFLUENCE LINE WELL AHEAD OF THE COLD FRONT. SURFACE ANALYSIS SHOWS DEWPOINTS HAVE RISEN INTO THE MID 60S F...WITH UPPER 60S F OFFSHORE. GIVEN THE MERIDIONAL NATURE OF THE UPPER TROUGH...COOLING ALOFT/STEEPEN OF LAPSE RATES WILL BE MINIMAL...BUT INCREASING CONVERGENCE AND LIFT MAY ALLOW FOR AN INCREASE IN ACTIVITY OVER THE NEXT FEW HOURS WITH A THREAT OF ISOLATED TORNADOES. ..JEWELL.. 12/01/2010 http://www.spc.noaa.gov/products/md/md2105.html ATTN...WFO...AKQ...MHX...RAH...ILM...CHS...CAE... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 TORNADO WARNING Columbus/Bladen counties in Eastern NC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 http://www.spc.noaa.gov/products/watch/ww0761.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilj4425 Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 Damage reported just west of here in downtown Easley, SC from the line that rolled through earlier tonight: http://www.wyff4.com...433/detail.html and http://www2.wspa.com/news/2010/dec/01/windows-shattered-roads-closed-easley-ar-1153277/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyewall Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 Severe weather fail in Southern Pines but power just went out here well after the line. Heard explosions and buzzing so a transformer went somehow or a branch broke and fell on a line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isopycnic Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 Severe weather fail in Southern Pines but power just went out here well after the line. Heard explosions and buzzing so a transformer went somehow or a branch broke and fell on a line. It is a stormy and windy morning down here in New Bern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeatherNC Posted December 1, 2010 Author Share Posted December 1, 2010 Not as bad of a let-down as the pds watch we had late last year, but no svr to speak of here in eastern NC. Never a fan of these high-shear no instability setups, and this fall illustrates why. Good wind out this am, with occasional gusts to 30, and maybe 40 through the tops of the big pines outback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MountainMarvel Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 Finished with over 7 inches.... WOW! Sunny this morning and very breezy with 39 degrees at 8 a.m. Heading out to check the creeks. What a way to end November. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MountainMarvel Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 The creeks are all over their banks. This video is of Otter Creek, and one of its branches. Normally it is a small slow moving stream, but not this morning. The temp has actually dropped to 38. Look out Cleveland County, I'm sending you all the rain you didn't get via the Broad River. http://www.youtube.c...h?v=qtTrfgW0kNQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaStorm Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 WSB tv and the AJC both reporting significant damage right near the Mall of Georgia area. I live about 2 miles away from the area and may try to check it out on my way home from work. Didn't experience anything dangerous here with the exception of very heavy rain and a few rumbles of thunder, but that was about the time the damage was reported. If it verifies as tornado damage, I'll actually be very surprised that something materialized out of one of our typical wedge situations. I know that the warm front was charging north, but usually the storms run out of steam once they get to the Atlanta area. A friend of mine drove over someone's window shutter on 85 yesterday going north. Pretty crazy to think there may of been a tornado after a strong wedge was in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strongwxnc Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 Cool. I assumed you would post a video!! Thanks.. The creeks are all over their banks. This video is of Otter Creek, and one of its branches. Normally it is a small slow moving stream, but not this morning. The temp has actually dropped to 38. Look out Cleveland County, I'm sending you all the rain you didn't get via the Broad River. http://www.youtube.c...h?v=qtTrfgW0kNQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilj4425 Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 QPF amounts from system now up here: http://www.erh.noaa....-12-01-1829.php And the winner: LAKE TOXAWAY 2 SW COOP......................9.29 inches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue_Ridge_Escarpment Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 Rainfall totals for previous storm: NOUS42 KGSP 011828 PNSGSP GAZ010-017-018-026-028-029-NCZ033-035>037-048>053-056>059-062>065- 068>072-082-501>510-SCZ001>014-019-020030- PUBLIC INFORMATION STATEMENT NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE GREENVILLE-SPARTANBURG SC 128 PM EST WED DEC 1 2010 ...RAINFALL TOTALS FROM THE WESTERN CAROLINAS AND NORTHEAST GEORGIA... RAINFALL TOTALS FROM THE RECENT HEAVY RAINFALL ARE LISTED BELOW. THESE TOTALS COVER THE TIME PERIOD FROM MONDAY AFTERNOON TO WEDNESDAY MORNING. THESE TOTALS ARE TAKEN FROM OBSERVATION POINTS ACROSS THE AREA INCLUDING COCORAHS AND COOP REPORTS. LAKE TOXAWAY 2 SW COOP......................9.29 LAKE TOXAWAY 1 NNW..........................8.95 BREVARD COOP................................8.85 FLAT ROCK 2 S...............................8.15 BREVARD 1 NNE...............................7.55 BREVARD 8 SE................................7.38 BREVARD 1 NNW...............................7.30 BREVARD 1 SSW...............................7.04 BREVARD 4 S.................................6.88 FLAT ROCK 4 NE..............................6.79 BREVARD 5 E.................................6.64 CANTON 10 S.................................6.54 CHIMNEY ROCK................................6.34 PISGAH FOREST 3 NE..........................6.14 OLD FORT COOP...............................6.00 CLEVELAND 8 WSW.............................5.94 HENDERSONVILLE 3 NW.........................5.92 LINVILLE FALLS 1 NW.........................5.82 BLANTYRE....................................5.81 MOUNTAIN CITY 2 N...........................5.70 HENDERSONVILLE 10 ENE.......................5.69 MT MITCHELL COOP............................5.66 PICKENS 9 N.................................5.64 SALEM.......................................5.62 LAUREL PARK 2 NW............................5.60 CLARKESVILLE 12 NNW.........................5.58 SALEM 3 WNW.................................5.54 MARION 2 NNW................................5.36 HELEN 10 ENE................................5.34 RABUN GAP 1 WNW.............................5.14 ETOWAH 2 NW.................................4.93 CAESARS HEAD................................4.84 FAIRVIEW 4 ENE..............................4.83 PICKENS 7 W.................................4.73 WALHALLA 6 WNW..............................4.72 ASHEVILLE AIRPORT...........................4.65 MORGANTON COOP..............................4.61 ARDEN 3 WNW.................................4.60 TRYON.......................................4.58 ARDEN 3 WNW.................................4.57 FRANKLIN 1 W................................4.57 LONG CREEK..................................4.57 FLETCHER 1 WSW..............................4.49 FLETCHER 1 W................................4.48 SKYLAND 1 W.................................4.46 WALHALLA 2 NW...............................4.43 FLETCHER 3 E................................4.39 ASHEVILLE 7 SSW.............................4.37 MARION 5 NE.................................4.32 CULLOWHEE 11 ESE............................4.29 WEST UNION 2 ESE............................4.27 BEECH MOUNTAIN COOP.........................4.25 SENECA 5 N..................................4.22 BENT CREEK..................................4.21 DEMOREST 6 WNW..............................4.21 MARIETTA....................................4.19 CLARKESVILLE 9 NW...........................4.18 ARDEN 2 ENE.................................4.16 FAIRVIEW 1 S................................4.10 FAIRVIEW 2 ENE..............................4.10 PICKENS 2 WSW...............................4.04 TRAVELERS REST 9 N..........................3.94 CLARKESVILLE 9 NNW..........................3.89 COLUMBUS 2 E................................3.89 PATTERSON COOP..............................3.88 SWANNANOA 3 WNW.............................3.87 SENECA 1 E..................................3.82 RUTHERFORDTON 10 S..........................3.78 TRAVELERS REST 2 ESE........................3.78 ENKA........................................3.75 CARNESVILLE 4 N.............................3.73 SWANNANOA 3 NNW.............................3.72 GLEN ALPINE 1 WSW...........................3.71 CLARKESVILLE 4 WNW..........................3.66 CENTRAL 3 NNW...............................3.57 ROBBINSVILLE................................3.56 CANDLER 5 SW................................3.52 TRAVELERS REST 2 SSW........................3.52 BURNSVILLE 7 SSW............................3.51 GLEN ALPINE 3 S.............................3.46 CARNESVILLE 7 SW............................3.45 TRAVELERS REST 1 S..........................3.30 TOCCOA......................................3.26 CANDLER 1 W.................................3.21 HICKORY 2 NW................................3.18 LYMAN 4 WNW.................................3.16 WAYNESVILLE 5 W.............................3.15 ASHEVILLE 6 NNW.............................3.12 HICKORY 5 SW................................3.06 CULLOWHEE 15 SW.............................3.01 GREENVILLE 5 WNW............................3.01 FRANKLIN 4 ESE..............................2.99 HUNTS BRIDGE................................2.95 LYMAN 2 NNW.................................2.90 NORTH HICKORY 1 WNW.........................2.90 GSP AIRPORT.................................2.87 LIBERTY 2 SE................................2.87 ASHEVILLE 6 NNW.............................2.84 ANDERSON 5 N................................2.82 ROYSTON 4 W.................................2.82 WAYNESVILLE 5 NW............................2.79 BANNER ELK COOP.............................2.77 GREER 4 SW..................................2.77 ASHEVILLE 4 NNE.............................2.71 SANDY SPRINGS 2 NE..........................2.69 FRANKLIN 7 N................................2.64 OCONALUFTEE.................................2.64 BOSTIC 2 ENE................................2.63 GREENVILLE COOP.............................2.63 GREENVILLE 8 SE.............................2.62 SIMPSONVILLE 5 N............................2.62 FIVE FORKS 1 W..............................2.59 WAYNESVILLE 4 E.............................2.59 WAYNESVILLE 2 WSW...........................2.57 FLAT SPRINGS 1 E............................2.56 TOCCOA 5 SW.................................2.53 BAKERSVILLE 3 SE............................2.52 POWDERSVILLE 1 SSE..........................2.51 SPRUCE PINE 2 NE............................2.50 WAYNESVILLE COOP............................2.50 TAYLORS 3 NNW...............................2.49 BARNARDSVILLE 2 SE..........................2.47 MARS HILL 5 NNE.............................2.46 TAYLORS 3 NNW...............................2.43 WILLIAMSTON 5 W.............................2.40 GREENVILLE DOWNTOWN AIRPORT.................2.32 CHESNEE 4 SSW...............................2.31 SIMPSONVILLE 3 WNW..........................2.31 BAKERSVILLE 5 N.............................2.30 CANTO.......................................2.30 BALD CREEK 1 NW.............................2.27 WAYNESVILLE 4 S.............................2.27 TAYLORS 3 W.................................2.26 BURNSVILLE 7 W..............................2.21 WAYNESVILLE 1 NW............................2.21 LINCOLNTON 2 NW.............................2.17 HARTWELL 6 NW...............................2.16 WEAVERVILLE 4 N.............................2.16 BURNSVILLE 5 N..............................2.10 SIMPSONVILLE 4 NE...........................2.06 BRYSON CITY COOP............................2.01 HOT SPRINGS 8 SSW...........................1.99 CLYDE 3 W...................................1.94 CANTON......................................1.91 IVA 5 SSW...................................1.87 ANDERSON 8 SE...............................1.82 BRYSON CITY.................................1.82 KINGS MOUNTAIN 2 SW.........................1.73 LINCOLNTON 4 WSW............................1.73 MOCKSVILLE 7 SW.............................1.71 LAURENS.....................................1.70 STATESVILLE 2 NNE...........................1.70 HOT SPRINGS.................................1.69 CALHOUN FALLS...............................1.66 YORK 4 S....................................1.63 MOORE 5 NW..................................1.61 STATESVILLE 3 ENE...........................1.60 DUNCAN 5 SE.................................1.59 GREENWOOD 3 NNW.............................1.59 ASHEVILLE 2 N...............................1.58 ELBERTON 1 WNW..............................1.58 ANTREVILLE..................................1.57 HARMONY 3 SW................................1.56 UNION 2 NNE.................................1.54 WOODRUFF 5 NW...............................1.50 GAFFNEY 6 E.................................1.42 WACO 1 NNW..................................1.42 CHAPPELLS 5 NNW.............................1.36 HODGES 1 SE.................................1.35 WHITTIER 4 ESE..............................1.34 ADVANCE.....................................1.32 GASTONIA 6 SE...............................1.32 CHARLOTTE AIRPORT...........................1.30 CLINTON.....................................1.28 HODGES 6 NE.................................1.27 MOUNTVILLE 2 SE.............................1.25 GASTONIA 3 NE...............................1.20 LOCKHART....................................1.17 CHESTER 1 SE................................0.98 CONCORD 5 SW................................0.96 CHARLOTTE 2 NE..............................0.95 KANNAPOLIS 5 E..............................0.95 TEGA CAY 2 ESE..............................0.87 YORK 6 E....................................0.85 MOUNT PLEASANT..............................0.77 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaffneyPeach Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 At least 2 confirmed Ef 1's last night. Easley and Grey Court in SC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeatherNC Posted December 1, 2010 Author Share Posted December 1, 2010 At least 2 confirmed Ef 1's last night. Easley and Grey Court in SC. Glad you are ok, was thinking about it as you were about to leave work with that line coming through, and a couple rotations in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilj4425 Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 At least 2 confirmed Ef 1's last night. Easley and Grey Court in SC. I live only about 5 minutes from Easley if even that. I drove through the city today and it was a mess especially the downtown and western parts of town. Roads are still closed in the area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheeznado Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 Buford, GA tornado an EF-2: http://www.srh.noaa.gov/ffc/?n=20101130_tors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaffneyPeach Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 Glad you are ok, was thinking about it as you were about to leave work with that line coming through, and a couple rotations in it. I was sitting in the parking lot during the worst of it. Makes the third time I've heard "the sound"...it was just above the ground. No sound like that in the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaStorm Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 Buford, GA tornado an EF-2: http://www.srh.noaa....n=20101130_tors Interesting. There was debris on 85 from the damaged homes since a friend of mine drove over it yesterday. Luckily nobody was hurt! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
audioguy3107 Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 Buford, GA tornado an EF-2: http://www.srh.noaa....n=20101130_tors Yeah, it's really been a while since we've had such a close call/hit in this area....have to go back to that crazy March in 2008 when one of the main supercells passed just to the north of here and just south of Gainesville. I'm still amazed that something produced with the whole "retreating wedge" setup that we have 100 times each year and the storms just die off as soon as they get near Atlanta. My home is literally 2 miles NE of the damage path...way too close for comfort. Does anyone on here have a radar loop/velocity loop off GR-3 or whatever that shows the storm moving through the Gwinnett area? Was at work at the time and didn't have access. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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