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Tulip Trouncer 5........The Comeback

Mr Torchey

By Mr Torchey,
in New England

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HoarfrostHubb

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LOL- Wachusett is not really your friendly neighborhood mountain...tried to take advantage of their "if you know an employee ski $10" deal...i called them up and no employee wanted to "know" me...couldn't get my name on the list...this one guy, Brian, well he didn't like that idea at all and told me he valued his job too much to even consider letting me use him as a friend, and he didn't think any other employee would want to either because of the repercussions...lol!!! they close April 3rd, and i would still have to rent skis...that alone is getting raped...YOU SUCK WAWA!!!

ok now back to the April Fools Storm

You didn't have to know anyone... just buy the pass online and pick it up at the window...

https://www.wachusett.com/shoponline/product/tabid/255/p-218-friends-and-family-lift-ticket.aspx

I've mentioned this before.

Well, more room on the slopes for me in an hour

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weatherMA

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Snowing good here. All non paved surfaces getting covered. Even the shady parts of my driveway are coated.

Final call:

MBY. 8.5"

ORH Will. 7.5"

KRAY. 5.0"

Dom. 11"

Sam. 12"

keV. 4"

Pete. 9.5"

Ginx. 3.5"

WeatherMA 4"

Scooter 1.5"

Dryslut 13.5"

Jayhawk 12"

Dendrite 14.7"

All the bolded are withing 2", nice calls Dave. I got 3.8" and you called 4" here.

Only places you were off was north...

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CoastalWx

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Well other than a fluke few inches...we are probably done. An ending to a great winter, as we begin the doldrums until November.

This was an interesting storm. I posted a few times about feeling uneasy with what this storm was doing....I just never felt comfortable with anything about it, but I think the biggest surprise was the snow along the canal. That really caught many off guard. Of course any late season storm will never have us feeling comfortable, but this one had some twists and turns. Cool little storm that passes through. I'm just glad I got my 2".

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correnjim1

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Well other than a fluke few inches...we are probably done. An ending to a great winter, as we begin the doldrums until November.

This was an interesting storm. I posted a few times about feeling uneasy with what this storm was doing....I just never felt comfortable with anything about it, but I think the biggest surprise was the snow along the canal. That really caught many off guard. Of course any late season storm will never have us feeling comfortable, but this one had some twists and turns. Cool little storm that passes through. I'm just glad I got my 2".

God i hate the summer.

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The thing is in general the models do a darn good job with most things. I think a lot of people (including many pro mets and myself sometimes) forget the meteorology and get too focused on the QPF or soundings or where the models are pegging the best omega. Going back to basics and looking at the track of the mid level lows and the intensity or them can really go a long way.

I don't think the models did well with the storm at all; this was one of the biggest busts of the season if you look at what happened synoptically, not just snowfall totals in SNE. 72 hours out, the GFS and ECM agreed at 12z that the low would develop rapidly over the Mid-Atlantic with the mid-levels closing off near NJ/NYC; in reality, 700mb didn't close off completely until the storm was approaching Maine.

That's just an unreal error for a 3-day forecast, although I do find that guidance often rushes the development of the H85 and H7 levels, leaving many people stuck with just flurries when they expected heavier QPF, like March 2001. Models also didn't see how much the second shortwave was going to separate from the third; the original idea was that they would both amplify the trough and allow the low to bomb into the 970s outside of Cape Cod. In reality, the third piece of energy split over the Plains and tracked as a separate weak clipper over IL/WI/IN, depriving the main storm of much of its energy. We needed that third piece of energy to dive into the trough, but it didn't until the surface low had already passed the area.

Second, QPF was much too high....Boston only has reported .66" liquid, Worcester only .56" liquid; how many times did we see the models printing out 1-2" QPF for these areas? Despite the radar looking impressive, you must have noticed all the obs were -SN, we didn't see any reports of +SN despite the fact people were discussing this as a blizzard. Down here, the QPF error was even worse; 48 hours out, the Euro had my area receiving 1.5" QPF with NNJ receiving 1.8" QPF. White Plains airport, about 15 minutes from my house, has only recorded .18" liquid, Central Park .29" QPF. That's just showers, not a Nor'easter. I just find it amazing that in 2011, we have models forecasting stations to get 10X the amount of liquid they actually receive at 48 hours. This is a two day forecast, that's just frightening...just goes to show that these so-called "improvements" and "upgrades" have actually made forecasting more difficult since we're so apt to rely on models instead of common sense these days. They made the same mistake in 3/24, showing nearly 1" QPF here when we got .3", just weird.

Well other than a fluke few inches...we are probably done. An ending to a great winter, as we begin the doldrums until November.

This was an interesting storm. I posted a few times about feeling uneasy with what this storm was doing....I just never felt comfortable with anything about it, but I think the biggest surprise was the snow along the canal. That really caught many off guard. Of course any late season storm will never have us feeling comfortable, but this one had some twists and turns. Cool little storm that passes through. I'm just glad I got my 2".

2" is probably less than your area averages for April, and didn't you get shut-out for March? I'm not trying to take away from your enjoyment of the snow, and I'm not jealous at all since we had a great season here, believe me....but I just don't find a storm that's hyped up as a monster and then leaves everyone with 25% of their average snowfall for March/April to be that impressive. I also was under the impression we were going to see widespread reports of heavy snow, thundersnow, dangerous winds....it ended up being mostly flurries, showers, and a few hours of moderate snow. I think we all got sucked in by the model's surface maps and didn't study the H7 and H85 trend towards closing the lows off too late again. It seemed like there were too many bands on radar and none of them ever consolidated into a real CCB. Then the BL got warm as the sun rose and ended the snow in many places.

But do you think we're really done? GFS brings down some -10C 850s all the way to Pittsburgh after the big cutter on Tuesday; if we can get that low to bomb over Quebec and into the 50/50 position, pumping up heights over Greenland, then maybe the next shortwave can produce a good snowstorm especially for NNE. I'm fairly positive we're done down here, although NYC metro did have a major snowfall on 4/7/2003 with 8" on LI South Shore, and JFK also accumulated 1.8", along with my town, on 4/19/1983. Flakes also flew here on 5/10/1977. So we just have to keep watching and hope the next storm is actually bomb, especially if we are getting the exaggerated sudden stratospheric warming/final warming which may allow the NAO to turn more negative alongside the bombing 50/50 low.

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40/70 Benchmark

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Well, tough end to the season for me; if you would have told me that Kev would only get 2.3" from this past event, then I would have celebrated overtaking him. As it was, I wasn't quiiiite far enough NE to get in on some of the better omega, which was crucial to offsetting my toasty boundary layer here @ a meager 111' ASL...needless to say, I had the bases loaded with the tying run on 2nd and 1 out, but hit into a gm ending DP.

Congrats to Kev for hanging on....last place in the GAY-ORH-REV division for the 2nd consecutive season.

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Well other than a fluke few inches...we are probably done. An ending to a great winter, as we begin the doldrums until November.

This was an interesting storm. I posted a few times about feeling uneasy with what this storm was doing....I just never felt comfortable with anything about it, but I think the biggest surprise was the snow along the canal. That really caught many off guard. Of course any late season storm will never have us feeling comfortable, but this one had some twists and turns. Cool little storm that passes through. I'm just glad I got my 2".

I was essentially all snow, save for some R- once the decent lift moved out, but it just never really ripped enough to stack up w the temp right around freezing.

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ORH_wxman

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Final was 6.8" here barring getting a few tenths from this last burst. Princeton got 8.4"...was hoping we'd get a little more overall, but not complaining about warning criteria snowfall in April. Pretty nice event. Tough break for Mt. Pocono though.

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