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Tulip Trouncer Threat IV


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And Ray. Enjoy fellas

In order Date, 2m temp, 850 temp, pressure, rh, 700rh, 6 hr qpf, 500 height, 1000-500 thk

FRI 06Z 01-APR 1.5 -1.8 1007 97 96 0.13 544 538

FRI 12Z 01-APR 0.8 -1.7 998 97 100 0.52 540 541

FRI 18Z 01-APR 0.9 -2.8 987 94 81 0.50 530 540

SAT 00Z 02-APR 0.8 -6.3 988 87 92 0.25 523 532

SAT 06Z 02-APR 0.7 -5.4 988 85 79 0.04 522 531

1.44"....little more than I thought...thx.

That is KBED, right...

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Given the slightly colder trends of the other models and now the Euro dropping the hammer, I think I'm going pretty big for Union...like 5-9. Perhaps they could get even more, but I think that is a decent guess right now. The 30h flirt is bothering me to go too much higher.

There's a little mini QPF max there too. That seems like a reasonable range for now. 5" in case they DS or warm, but 9" if something like the euro happens...or at least a hedge towards it. It's still highly fluid, but gotta think at 1000ft and being in extreme nrn CT, they have a better shot in the lower levels too.

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There's a little mini QPF max there too. That seems like a reasonable range for now. 5" in case they DS or warm, but 9" if something like the euro happens...or at least a hedge towards it. It's still highly fluid, but gotta think at 1000ft and being in extreme nrn CT, they have a better shot in the lower levels too.

Having forecasted there for 4 years now, Union is a little sicko spot. They are like the weenie ridge of NE CT. They can pull off 4 or 5" when everyone else gets 1-2"...even in those SW flow events. They seem to hold it off just a bit longer.

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What does it mean for us

bboughton, this is for Boston metro:

It's better for us, but we still may have boundary layer issues. If we can get a real strong burst of lift, we could have a 33F paste. Lift is going bonkers at 12z.

Thanks!

Great to see this, I believe the 0z Nam over-corrected. Given the post Will made earlier regarding forecasts prior to 1997, it is certainly possible for this to dramatically change with just a few ticks more east.

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LOL

Well now you guys have an image of me sucking on a tailpipe when a storm goes sour for me, lol. I can picture that being posted the next time we see a Dec 19-20, 2009...or a storm that I was barely holding onto snow while you guys were doomed anyway hoping I would fail...then you can post that. :lol:

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I've probably reached tailpipe mode here now...we are close enough and the models have trended good enough in this short lead time to get my expectations up.

The EC kinda puts a wrench in things...especially in CT. What do you forecast for union? 3-5"? 8-12?

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The EC kinda puts a wrench in things...especially in CT. What do you forecast for union? 3-5"? 8-12?

I think I'm going to compromise...5-9 sounds decent right now. I think they will get blasted for a few hours anyway in the warm conveyor belt initial push along the ML warm front. I guess they could get as little as 3", but I'm starting to think in light of non-GFS guidance that they might get that in one hour on the front end. All other guidance has a monster omega burst...GFS was probably convectively contaminated and even the low res ensembles had a monster burst.

Tough call though. Because they probably taint during the period of heaviest precip.

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Will, Scoot, Eck.....whenever you get a sec...

10" still is pushing it at your elevation. If you were maybe 500', I could see that. I'm having trouble with you going higher than 8" at the max for now. It doesn't mean it can't happen, but there are a few things that would hold me back..BL obviously one of them. Perhaps tomorrow might be the point where you can up the total.

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10" still is pushing it at your elevation. If you were maybe 500', I could see that. I'm having trouble with you going higher than 8" at the max for now. It doesn't mean it can't happen, but there are a few things that would hold me back..BL obviously one of them. Perhaps tomorrow might be the point where you can up the total.

This starts blasting away at night, though.....those 2m temps on the models are a little warm, too.

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