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Scooter and William... staying up for the Euro???

I'm off tomorrow but not sure I can justify it for a storm that will gibve me rain haha

Oh I'll be up for the Euro. I'm having trouble with the Union forecast. I could see them getting a pretty good omega burst even if they flip. The forecast is problematic enough for here, but I feel a bit safer forecasting the N ORH county towns for a pretty good snowfall and not safe at all down there.

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Oh I'll be up for the Euro. I'm having trouble with the Union forecast. I could see them getting a pretty good omega burst even if they flip. The forecast is problematic enough for here, but I feel a bit safer forecasting the N ORH county towns for a pretty good snowfall and not safe at all down there.

I could see 3-5 for Union maybe? My gut tells me the best chance of 3-5 is NW of HFD not NE though

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It looks like you are only a 30-50 mile model tic from being in the thump zone. I'm thinking as it stands now everyone N of Northampton is 6"+. Intensity of precip will make all the difference in the Springfield area. If it rips 25-35dbz for a while before dawn you get plastered.

Our in-house 00z MM5 is damn warm but it crushes the area along the ORH County/NH Border and down through like Northampton points north.

Hoping this scenario comes to fruition. Good way to end the winter and finally lock into Spring weather!

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I could see 3-5 for Union maybe? My gut tells me the best chance of 3-5 is NW of HFD not NE though

I have 3-5 for Union currently, but that is the old forecast, not sure if I keep that for the new one. I do think they could snow like gangbusters for 3-4 hours which of course could get them a quick 4-6 if its heavy enough during that first several hours. Its a very tight rope they are walking. Hell the difference between Union and Tolland could be a couple to 3 inches easily.

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I have 3-5 for Union currently, but that is the old forecast, not sure if I keep that for the new one. I do think they could snow like gangbusters for 3-4 hours which of course could get them a quick 4-6 if its heavy enough during that first several hours. Its a very tight rope they are walking. Hell the difference between Union and Tolland could be a couple to 3 inches easily.

3-5 is probably safe pending euro. It's definitely a close call though.

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LMAO @ the TIP pic...gona get me every time....I may look foreward to bad runs. :lol:

I can't stop laughing at it. I saved those pics just to use them later on and next winter. :lmao:

It will definitely make terrible model runs easier to take. :lol:

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LI's get low on the FOUS. I wonder if someone gets TSSN out of this. The RGEM has one hell of a snow gradient from 128 tp 495 it seems.

Man this seems like it has the making for a huge variability in sensible wx over eastern mass. Something tells me the snowfall gradient near Ray is going to be BIG. Maybe it's 10 or 15 miles to his nw, but I get that sense.

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LI's get low on the FOUS. I wonder if someone gets TSSN out of this. The RGEM has one hell of a snow gradient from 128 tp 495 it seems.

Man this seems like it has the making for a huge variability in sensible wx over eastern mass. Something tells me the snowfall gradient near Ray is going to be BIG. Maybe it's 10 or 15 miles to his nw, but I get that sense.

:lol: You're getting better @ that.

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Just looking it over again, that 00z GFS run is def a little se of 12z, but I think it may have failed to really cool because the loss of dynamics negated the se tic.....just a thought......that is likely a convective attributed error, as you guys said...soooooo

Thoughts...

I agree, whatever weird convective thing it had going on prevent the lift from being as intense as the previous runs and if we see that intense lift, its going to cool the MLs more. We are seeing it on other runs right now. GGEM came SE a bit but has monster lift over SNE and the 0C line is good enough SE for all snow here and probably for you too. It has snow as ptype to at least 128 12z Friday morning.

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Just looking it over again, that 00z GFS run is def a little se of 12z, but I think it may have failed to really cool because the loss of dynamics negated the se tic.....just a thought......that is likely a convective attributed error, as you guys said...soooooo

Thoughts...

Yeah I think that's a good point. It looks like there were some convective feedback issues offshore which lead to a relative min in omega over most of SNE with the best forcing out over the Atlantic and west of SNE on the backside of the 700mb low.

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LI's get low on the FOUS. I wonder if someone gets TSSN out of this. The RGEM has one hell of a snow gradient from 128 tp 495 it seems.

Man this seems like it has the making for a huge variability in sensible wx over eastern mass. Something tells me the snowfall gradient near Ray is going to be BIG. Maybe it's 10 or 15 miles to his nw, but I get that sense.

I was thinking that eastern NH has a shot at thundersnow in that band

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Yeah I think that's a good point. It looks like there were some convective feedback issues offshore which lead to a relative min in omega over most of SNE with the best forcing out over the Atlantic and west of SNE on the backside of the 700mb low.

Lol...we posted that at like the same time.

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Yeah I think that's a good point. It looks like there were some convective feedback issues offshore which lead to a relative min in omega over most of SNE with the best forcing out over the Atlantic and west of SNE on the backside of the 700mb low.

LOL I just emailed a co-worker about that. What weenies we all are for thinking that at once. Given how the 850 low went east, I wonder if the temps aloft would have cooled if we had the 18z dynamics.

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That looks good....I'm sure it will show rain to Montral because it's good like that, but the track is nice.

No, its actually good for you on its ptype algorithm. It has snow line SE of you at 12z friday morning while we're getting destroyed. Both Canadian runs are really good, the GGEM is probably a bit better for you than RGEM but both are snowy.

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