pazzo83 Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 Yup. Pazzo, there is a banter thread for this kind of stuff. Please use it. What you posted is the same thing as one of us coming in here and saying "I think it will snow 20" on Friday". Doesnt belong in this thread. So just to be clear, I have to think it will snow to post in this thread? We're discussing this "potential." I don't think it will snow in NYC. Where is the controversy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowbo Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 I will check back on Wednesday afternoon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag3 Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 What about Wed night and Thu - sfc temps and precip.? From the RH fields it looks like the first wave produces some precip. over the NYC area. Precip begins Thursday morning at 2am and lasts thru Friday 8pm. Surface temps vary from 36-42 degrees and precip is light and scattered and adds up to .51" for NYC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag3 Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 So just to be clear, I have to think it will snow to post in this thread? We're discussing this "potential." I don't think it will snow in NYC. Where is the controversy? You dont have to think anything. This is a model analysis and storm thread. Not a meteorology forecasting contest. Use the banter thread for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazzo83 Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 99.9% of the nyc population hates cold and snow in the spring time. Its really depressing and makes it almost impossible to be outside. I find it really hard to believe that anyone truly would rather have a 30 degree day than a 60 degree day in April. Pretty much everyone in the other regional forums has had it as well. Truly an anomaly in this forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNNAWAYICEBERG Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 You are joking about anywhere correct for last week? Looks like to the WNW of NYC there was a large area of widespread 6 + snowfall! yea but you see Pazzo's backyard....err cement lot....with that dry slot there not showing much snow. so it doesnt count if HE didnt accumulate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atownwxwatcher Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 Hey ATown.... thanks for that map.... what was the highest snowfall total in the Poconos last week? I see a blip of dark blue near Mt Pocono. Pocono Summit was 11 inches from the PNS that i just looked at ... As far as this system is concerned ..really not sure how anyone can make any definitive statements leaning in any direction. We still do not have any model agreement what so ever.. ECM is showing a very strung out system kind of like the GGEM.. UKMET is AMPED up NOGAPS is a great hit for just about all the viewing area.. GFS is kind of in between with intensity but surface is kind of warmish... So in my honest opinion without model agreement i do not think you can lean any direction.... The one thing that i do take into consideration though is we are going from a negative NAO to a + NAO and usually this represents some kind of archambault type event ..So that kind of lends some credence towards solutions AKA the UKMET cause it is definitely a wrapped up system & aside from its been moving east ..it has been consistently wrapped up with its solution.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNNAWAYICEBERG Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 So just to be clear, I have to think it will snow to post in this thread? We're discussing this "potential." I don't think it will snow in NYC. Where is the controversy? you're a stubborn little one arent ya.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNNAWAYICEBERG Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 99.9% of the nyc population hates cold and snow in the spring time. Its really depressing and makes it almost impossible to be outside. I find it really hard to believe that anyone truly would rather have a 30 degree day than a 60 degree day in April. not the point of this thread. take your feelings and what you want the weather to be in the banter thread. we discuss possible threats here wether its snow, rain, tornadoes, the effing end of the world. track the system and discuss is the motto pretty much. yet pazzo and guys like you come in here and hijack these threads with your "its april and i want it be warm and sunny" comments. enough! I want it to be warm and sunny too but what i want and what is happenning are two different things. take your personal feelings out of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-X Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 99.9% of the nyc population hates cold and snow in the spring time. Its really depressing and makes it almost impossible to be outside. I find it really hard to believe that anyone truly would rather have a 30 degree day than a 60 degree day in April. Outside of Xmas, they also hate it in the winter. People who like snow are in the minority. As far as the latter portion of your statement-- it won't be 60 degrees around here for at least another week-- would you rather have 30 degrees and snow or 40 degrees and rain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazzo83 Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 euro not showing anything significant for either storm per the thread in the philly forum. Light precip with sfc temps in the mid 30s for us I-95ers means rain or non-accumulating snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag3 Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 Precip begins Thursday morning at 2am and lasts thru Friday 8pm. Surface temps vary from 36-42 degrees and precip is light and scattered and adds up to .51" for NYC. euro not showing anything significant for either storm per the thread in the philly forum. Light precip with sfc temps in the mid 30s for us I-95ers means rain or non-accumulating snow. Already posted. Surface is upper 30's to lower 40's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 The Euro,GFS,and UKMET are not really that far off by 96 hrs. As the energy comes ashore out west over the next day or so the spread should narrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazzo83 Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 not the point of this thread. take your feelings and what you want the weather to be in the banter thread. we discuss possible threats here wether its snow, rain, tornadoes, the effing end of the world. track the system and discuss is the motto pretty much. yet pazzo and guys like you come in here and hijack these threads with your "its april and i want it be warm and sunny" comments. enough! I want it to be warm and sunny too but what i want and what is happenning are two different things. take your personal feelings out of it. I never said I "wanted it to be warm in sunny" in this thread. I said it looks like rain for NYC. I'll probably be correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpha5 Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 Euro goes with the multi wave solution, nothing concentrated and not that much QPF on both waves for the area. This time of year, dynamic cooling associated with heavy precipitation is more important than ever, so the lack of QPF is not a good sign for those wanting snow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris L Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 it all depends where the trough orignates, if it can get going form a sharp trough with a lot of force, energy, then it goes on a negative tilt, with cyclogenesis occuring, we can get all snow. Timing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNNAWAYICEBERG Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 I never said I "wanted it to be warm in sunny" in this thread. I said it looks like rain for NYC. I'll probably be correct. not this thread....fine. but thats the case with others. lets just leave it as is. you win youngin, you da man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNNAWAYICEBERG Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 gefs esembles are now at 430pm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsentropicLift Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 euro not showing anything significant for either storm per the thread in the philly forum. Light precip with sfc temps in the mid 30s for us I-95ers means rain or non-accumulating snow. If the Euro was showing a 970mb low just inside the BM with surface and 850 temps below freezing you would find a way to discount it just the same. The Euro has shown very large run to run differences and the model spread at this point remains too large to rule any one solution off the board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag3 Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 gefs esembles are now at 430pm? No, they are out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 It looks like the 12z GGEM ensembles are mostly clustered near the BM. http://www.weatherof...ime=12&Type=pnm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooter13 Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 Outside of Xmas, they also hate it in the winter. People who like snow are in the minority. As far as the latter portion of your statement-- it won't be 60 degrees around here for at least another week-- would you rather have 30 degrees and snow or 40 degrees and rain? 40 and rain absolutly no question about it. Didnt have to think for even a split second. Id rather have 35 and rain then 32 and snow. Snow in april reminds me of winter where as rain is appropriate in the springtime. Also rain doesnt accumulate and keep things cold. Plus baseball season starts thursday and snow for it would be an absolute nightmare. a Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsentropicLift Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 It looks like the 12z GGEM ensembles are mostly clustered near the BM. http://www.weatherof...ime=12&Type=pnm alot of the members from both the GFS and GGEM are showing some very nice hits for our area. Lot's of spread still which gives all the more reason not to discount any one solution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNNAWAYICEBERG Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 gefs ensemble pretty strong signal for EC system. wonder how much impact the wed wave has for fri? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsentropicLift Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 40 and rain absolutly no question about it. Didnt have to think for even a split second. Id rather have 35 and rain then 32 and snow. Snow in april reminds me of winter where as rain is appropriate in the springtime. Also rain doesnt accumulate and keep things cold. Plus baseball season starts thursday and snow for it would be an absolute nightmare. a The general public almost never wants snow but this forum generally represents the minority of people who love snow. I for one would have no problem if we never got above 30 degrees all year as long as it snowed at least once a week. I'm of the attitude that if it's cold it might as well snow and if not it should be warm and sunny. I hate those mid-winter stretches where artic high pressure is in control with freezing temps and boring weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-X Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 40 and rain absolutly no question about it. Didnt have to think for even a split second. Id rather have 35 and rain then 32 and snow. Snow in april reminds me of winter where as rain is appropriate in the springtime. Also rain doesnt accumulate and keep things cold. Plus baseball season starts thursday and snow for it would be an absolute nightmare. a Cold rain feels a lot colder than snow..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-X Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 The general public almost never wants snow but this forum generally represents the minority of people who love snow. I for one would have no problem if we never got above 30 degrees all year as long as it snowed at least once a week. I'm of the attitude that if it's cold it might as well snow and if not it should be warm and sunny. I hate those mid-winter stretches where artic high pressure is in control with freezing temps and boring weather. The general public are also idiots. The basic level of scientific knowledge the general public has is barely above zero lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsentropicLift Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 The general public are also idiots. The basic level of scientific knowledge the general public has is barely above zero lol. + 1000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eduggs Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 You are joking about anywhere correct for last week? Looks like to the WNW of NYC there was a large area of widespread 6 + snowfall! The map doesn't support that. Even if it did, it would be wrong. The area of 6"+ snow in NNJ was geographically and elevationally limited. I'm not saying it was confined to a single hilltop, but the use of the word "widespread" is inappropriate. If you're talking Pa, then sure, the coverage was more extensive across the northern tier and in the Poconos. But even there the lower and mid elevations were mostly 3"-6" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-X Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 LOL at Francesa trying to forecast the weather on WFAN. He interviewed Jeter and asked him if he would like it to snow on Opening Day and Jeter described 1996. And then Francesa was trying to read the forecast and it went something like this-- It looks like the high temp is going to be in the upper 20s to around 50 and where it's in the upper 20s it will snow and where it's around 50 it will rain. It looks like the snow will happen to the south of the area (?) so there will be a weird rain/snow line where it's snowing to the south and raining to the north. I LOL'ed through that entire forecast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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