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Tulip Trouncer Threat - End of March/ Early April


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NAM is looking good for #2 so far

The amplitude of the western ridge is impressive and continues to be on most runs. I'd probably like to see the first wave a shade flatter, but otherwise the NAM looks like it would be pretty interesting post-84.

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The amplitude of the western ridge is impressive and continues to be on most runs. I'd probably like to see the first wave a shade flatter, but otherwise the NAM looks like it would be pretty interesting post-84.

Will, are you more worried about an out to see bomb or a lakes cutter for storm 2 at this moment? Which is more likely to happen IYO?

Also if you could... could you summarize where each model have storm number two going so far??

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Will, are you more worried about an out to see bomb or a lakes cutter for storm 2 at this moment? Which is more likely to happen IYO?

Also if you could... could you summarize where each model have storm number two going so far??

A lakes cutter or a whiff is pretty unlikely, but there is concern for a hugger, which would still cause extensive p type issues for a rather large portion of the area.

12z UK was warm rain, 18z GFS was a good snow event, 12z EURO was whiff (odd soloution) and the Canadian was a good snow event.

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Shouldn't we be coming up on 00z models soon? I'm going to wishcast this one into a Boston blizzard, even if all of my friends think I'm crazy for it.

A lakes cutter or a whiff is pretty unlikely, but there is concern for a hugger, which would still cause extensive p type issues for a rather large portion of the area.

12z UK was warm rain, 18z GFS was a good snow event, 12z EURO was whiff (odd soloution) and the Canadian was a good snow event.

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GFS looks like its not quite a cleanly phased system...tries to get going late and gives some moderate qpf, but likely in a fairly trivial late season event. 3-5 type for high terrain and less lower.

Close call though and at this stage, that's all you can really hope for.

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GFS looks like its not quite a cleanly phased system...tries to get going late and gives some moderate qpf, but likely in a fairly trivial late season event. 3-5 type for high terrain and less lower.

Close call though and at this stage, that's all you can really hope for.

That is a trend that I like relative to my locale.....all set w the 18z GFS Boxing day redux.

That is very close to monster that would crush me if it phased a bit cleaner and faster.

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Nice potent little low on the GGEM tonight.

Canadian has been a decent hit for a couple runs now (at least interior). Quite similar to the 12z run...though 12z might have shot E a shade at the very last 2nd, but a trivial detail at this time range.

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There's another much more potent piece of energy that dives down at 120-126 but can't do much because of the trough being too far E...its almost like 3 waves now...first one is gone by 84-90h, then the 2nd one is not defined well, the trough digs and the vorticity really isn't there for a larger system....so it misses to the E and then the 3rd much stronger stuff tries to come in on the back side but we're well E by that point and it produces an inverted trough over VA.

Just a bizarre set of shortwave interaction there. There's still a lot of amplitude to that western ridge, so the longwave pattern is definitely uite favorable for a decent sized system. We'll just have to monitor the shortwaves.

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What I find interesting is that the past 6 or so Euro runs have been going back and forth on the Wed night-Thu event. The 0z runs have (with one exception) been suppressed, while the 12z runs have been more amplified and have brought at least some QPF into SNE.

The same tendencies happened with the Mar 23-24 event - the 0z runs were usually more suppressed, while the 12z runs were more amplified. In that case, the more suppressed runs were more correct.

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Things still looking good for a big hit on Fri/Sat. Euro in it's usual waffle mode at this time range. Suspect we see it really latch on either at 12z or 00z tonight

Nice to see the long range Euro finally ridding ourselves of useless cold. Once it snows it is no longer useless and for that matter useful since the dirty deed has been done.

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