Clinch Leatherwood Posted March 27, 2011 Share Posted March 27, 2011 18/8, low of 11. Great ski this AM in the brisk air. Amazing how wrong the Warministas have been.lol Big Winter incoming. Big Big Winter. Big big snowy winter returning 2/17, 2/20, 3/1, 3/10, 3/20, 3/27....now 4/1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ski MRG Posted March 27, 2011 Share Posted March 27, 2011 Big big snowy winter returning 2/17, 2/20, 3/1, 3/10, 3/20, 3/27....now 4/1 lol, 43+" here for the March/Feb couplet, not a blockbuster but snowy. March's low temp so far here is -8, that's nice and cold. Add to that the considerable snows that have fallen at my home away from home (MRG) and I'd say the Big Winter didn't have to return because it never left. True, you'll probably have to go back to watching the tide roll in and out until next December (do you ever get snow in December? usually see the first flakes here in Oct but I know it's different down there.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPPYVALLEY Posted March 27, 2011 Share Posted March 27, 2011 Meh, I have had 5.7 inches of snow in the last 55 days.............i am ready for some warmth, its over down here. Ouch. Didn't realize it was that long down there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted March 27, 2011 Share Posted March 27, 2011 Big big snowy winter returning 2/17, 2/20, 3/1, 3/10, 3/20, 3/27....now 4/1 Haha, funny how different the opinions can be in New England based on where you live. To me, February and March were better than January and on all those dates you crossed out, I can think of decent snowfalls within a couple days of each of those. How about 27" on 3/8 then 6" on 3/10? Of course, I'm in far NW New England, and Messenger is in far SE New England... about as opposite as you can get in New England with the exception of Litchfieldlibations in far SW and Vim Toot in far NE New England. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan11 Posted March 27, 2011 Share Posted March 27, 2011 Not as cold, but ridiculously lovely for the end of March here. Mid 20's with a strong nw wind and sunshine at 11 AM. The low was 15. quote name='powderfreak' timestamp='1301235045' post='586250'] lol... I am actually waiting inside this morning for it to warm up on the hill before heading out. Its that cold. Down in the village its 17F with a wind chill index right near 0F. Up at the mountain its 7F with a wind chill index of -20F (colder in gusts) in a sustained 35mph wind, gusting to near 50mph. Quad and Gondola are on wind hold, too, so I'm not too excited bout freezing my ssa to a fixed grip chair right now for a 15+ minute ride to climb 2,100 vertical feet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinch Leatherwood Posted March 27, 2011 Share Posted March 27, 2011 lol, 43+" here for the March/Feb couplet, not a blockbuster but snowy. March's low temp so far here is -8, that's nice and cold. Add to that the considerable snows that have fallen at my home away from home (MRG) and I'd say the Big Winter didn't have to return because it never left. True, you'll probably have to go back to watching the tide roll in and out until next December (do you ever get snow in December? usually see the first flakes here in Oct but I know it's different down there.) Two white christmases in a row and I believe in both cases I had more snow than you Kids are outside playing lax having a good old time. First 70 degree day beach volleyball will start up. You can have your April snow which only delays the inevitable return of warmth. I'll take the random snow bomb that melts in two days giving the best of both worlds. Maybe wednesday? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan11 Posted March 27, 2011 Share Posted March 27, 2011 Well it's been a tale of coastal versus interior since early February.... so you have two totally different perspectives about this late season cold and it's merits. 50 inches here since February 1st so a very good second half to winter. Big big snowy winter returning 2/17, 2/20, 3/1, 3/10, 3/20, 3/27....now 4/1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinch Leatherwood Posted March 27, 2011 Share Posted March 27, 2011 Haha, funny how different the opinions can be in New England based on where you live. To me, February and March were better than January and on all those dates you crossed out, I can think of decent snowfalls within a couple days of each of those. How about 27" on 3/8 then 6" on 3/10? Of course, I'm in far NW New England, and Messenger is in far SE New England... about as opposite as you can get in New England with the exception of Litchfieldlibations in far SW and Vim Toot in far NE New England. Oh by all means it's been epic up in NNE...but that was always the thought here amongst everyone. I don't think there was ever any doubt that when the pattern broke 2/2ish...it was breaking in your favor. Look at Sunday River with almost 130 trails open heading into April! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ski MRG Posted March 27, 2011 Share Posted March 27, 2011 Two white christmases in a row and I believe in both cases I had more snow than you Kids are outside playing lax having a good old time. First 70 degree day beach volleyball will start up. You can have your April snow which only delays the inevitable return of warmth. I'll take the random snow bomb that melts in two days giving the best of both worlds. Maybe wednesday? It snows all the time here so I don't remember specific snowfalls that well, there are so many. It's almost always a White X-mas here so only the few brown ones stand out.lol Btw, I still have more snow OTG than you and probably will for some time to come. NaNaNA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan11 Posted March 27, 2011 Share Posted March 27, 2011 2006 was probably the last time just about everyone had a brown Christmas. That season was ugly until it turned in late January. MRG' timestamp='1301239307' post='586380'] It snows all the time here so I don't remember specific snowfalls that well, there are so many. It's almost always a White X-mas here so only the few brown ones stand out.lol Btw, I still have more snow OTG than you and probably will for some time to come. NaNaNA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSUmetstud Posted March 27, 2011 Share Posted March 27, 2011 The 12z NAM looks pretty similar to the 00z Euro with the Plains shortwave at 84 hours...significant difference with the lead shortwave at 84 hours over the Ohio Valley...the NAM is more amped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted March 27, 2011 Share Posted March 27, 2011 2006 was probably the last time just about everyone had a brown Christmas. That season was ugly until it turned in late January. Dec 2006 was awful. Pattern didn't change until late January 2007. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted March 27, 2011 Share Posted March 27, 2011 The 12z NAM looks pretty similar to the 00z Euro with the Plains shortwave at 84 hours...significant difference with the lead shortwave at 84 hours over the Ohio Valley...the NAM is more amped. I suspect it will eventually back off on that lead s/w. Its all but disappeared on the globals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinch Leatherwood Posted March 27, 2011 Share Posted March 27, 2011 It snows all the time here so I don't remember specific snowfalls that well, there are so many. It's almost always a White X-mas here so only the few brown ones stand out.lol Btw, I still have more snow OTG than you and probably will for some time to come. NaNaNA Yeah but who cares? What good does snow OTG do me here? Long as they have it in the sparsely inhabited nether regions of the mountains where I can go ski/snowmobile/snowshoe and then go home I'm happy as is 99.9% of the population. I've already done the initial woodchipping, started trimming back last years growth and am getting ready to prune the shrubs. All this why the neighborhood kids are having a blast outdoors. The town already swept the streets so there isn't any sand on them opening up roller blading, scooters etc for the kids (including street hockey games ongoing right now).... I certainly respect the fact that you enjoy being snowed in but give me sun and warm weather. Just did a rough departure thinging for Boston..I think about .6 above normal, providence closer to 1 degree. Total snow in Providence so far for March .8" hartford 1" and some trace amounts. Boston .7" and some traces. So let's be realistic, your call for a stark return to winter in the major cities was wrong. It may have been fine where you are and up north, but where a huge portion of the SNE'ers live, it never happened in terms of the snow. Sure it's "brutal" out there or would be minus the late March sun. It's cold, dewpoints are in the single digits but we have near 100% sunshine so it's not that bad. I'd care about my snowpack if I owned a ski resort in my front yard. I understand why everyone else appreciates it more, but for me...long as the slopes have it I'm happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan11 Posted March 27, 2011 Share Posted March 27, 2011 Marginal for a DC cherry blossom crusher on the NAM...but I don't get back up there until late Friday.... I suspect it will eventually back off on that lead s/w. Its all but disappeared on the globals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinch Leatherwood Posted March 27, 2011 Share Posted March 27, 2011 System not letting me edit.... I hope this week works out. I love late season snows because they deliver the goods and then are gone. Just have the realization that the experience they had in the mid-atlantic is more common than not late season as things find a way to not work out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan11 Posted March 27, 2011 Share Posted March 27, 2011 Well it looks like somebody from interior VA//MD/WV to NY/NE is gonna find themselves in the sweet spot for a late season snowfall between the first system and the supposed penultimate system. But one man's big snowstorm is the next guys wasted 36F rain so for some it will be a waste of a Spring week while others will love it. It's just down to luck in this pattern because we have the cold to deliver snow to those on the left side of the storm track. I don't think the hype will be for naught, but more a typical winners versus losers re: the storm track as in any winter storm. System not letting me edit.... I hope this week works out. I love late season snows because they deliver the goods and then are gone. Just have the realization that the experience they had in the mid-atlantic is more common than not late season as things find a way to not work out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinch Leatherwood Posted March 27, 2011 Share Posted March 27, 2011 Well it looks like somebody from interior VA//MD/WV to NY/NE is gonna find themselves in the sweet spot for a late season snowfall between the first system and the supposed penultimate system. But one man's big snowstorm is the next guys wasted 36F rain so for some it will be a waste of a Spring week while others will love it. It's just down to luck in this pattern because we have the cold to deliver snow to those on the left side of the storm track. I don't think the hype will be for naught, but more a typical winners versus losers re: the storm track as in any winter storm. Given recent model performance....I'm thinking it's 2 days from now before we can lock in the general track/strength. They had a real tough go down the coast last night with what looked like a lock inside of even 12 hours. Odds favor something going wrong this late in the year. I hope it happens this time as it's getting a bit disconcerting that opportunities keep missing, but we'll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Torchey Posted March 27, 2011 Share Posted March 27, 2011 Blessed at 40 to have my 90 yr old grandmother here to visit for the day. Italian blood, red wine and great food FTW, one sister is 99 the other 92, anyhow 38 now but with the strong early spring sun and little wind it feels more like 50. Kids outside playing, chile cooking for the second day, and bloodys about to commence. Next three days looks even warmer, get out there and enjoy it!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaineJayhawk Posted March 27, 2011 Share Posted March 27, 2011 Windchill of 15F ... big spring delayed, big big spring delayed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinch Leatherwood Posted March 27, 2011 Share Posted March 27, 2011 Blessed at 40 to have my 90 yr old grandmother here to visit for the day. Italian blood, red wine and great food FTW, one sister is 99 the other 92, anyhow 38 now but with the strong early spring sun and little wind it feels more like 50. Kids outside playing, chile cooking for the second day, and bloodys about to commence. Next three days looks even warmer, get out there and enjoy it!! warmer is subjective...this is really cold for late march. GFS is pushing the first wave again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan11 Posted March 27, 2011 Share Posted March 27, 2011 I don't think the models were showing much more than a light brushing in DC itself, but I know a lot of WWA's were up further south in VA. I'm not sure if they verified in that area. Yesterday afternoon my cousin said they were forecasting a dusting in Montgomery County, MD. Given recent model performance....I'm thinking it's 2 days from now before we can lock in the general track/strength. They had a real tough go down the coast last night with what looked like a lock inside of even 12 hours. Odds favor something going wrong this late in the year. I hope it happens this time as it's getting a bit disconcerting that opportunities keep missing, but we'll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinch Leatherwood Posted March 27, 2011 Share Posted March 27, 2011 I don't think the models were showing much more than a light brushing in DC itself, but I know a lot of WWA's were up further south in VA. I'm not sure if they verified in that area. Yesterday afternoon my cousin said they were forecasting a dusting in Montgomery County, MD. I know but just look at the 12z GFS...blew up the southern s/w entirely in one run. So much inconsistency run to run.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinch Leatherwood Posted March 27, 2011 Share Posted March 27, 2011 setting up somewhat by 102 hours...but it'll be a day or three before we see whether or not this is a real threat or just more missed opportunity. I remember when John was describing this a few days ago and all the potential he was talking about the lack of so many s/w in the flow. We had one bowling ball. We're kind of heading towards the "mess" we've had for a month and a half per this map if correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan11 Posted March 27, 2011 Share Posted March 27, 2011 Not bad for their ages. I'm visiting my 93 year old aunt in FL this week.... Once you get past 60 it is totally haphazard in terms of life span ..Some people croak at 65 from cacner and others make 90s vigorously.... I visit my father's cousin out near ROC and the guy still drives and plays a sax in a band at the veterans homes...turned 96 a few weeks ago. My father was in great shape at 80, but had an accident and died ...so you never know what the hand of fate is gonna be. Blessed at 40 to have my 90 yr old grandmother here to visit for the day. Italian blood, red wine and great food FTW, one sister is 99 the other 92, anyhow 38 now but with the strong early spring sun and little wind it feels more like 50. Kids outside playing, chile cooking for the second day, and bloodys about to commence. Next three days looks even warmer, get out there and enjoy it!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted March 27, 2011 Share Posted March 27, 2011 warmer is subjective...this is really cold for late march. GFS is pushing the first wave again. It is a little nippy. Up to 30.4/4 at 12:10. Top gust at 8' was 21mph. Sap running cancel. That notwithstanding, out t take down a couple trees. First of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted March 27, 2011 Share Posted March 27, 2011 Man the models seem really confused as to what s/w is going to be the player. GFS seems a little more stronger with the first wave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan11 Posted March 27, 2011 Share Posted March 27, 2011 We are kinda used to that with the US models. LOL ...on most systems all winter long. So much inconsistency run to run.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted March 27, 2011 Share Posted March 27, 2011 Not bad for their ages. I'm visiting my 93 year old aunt in FL this week.... Once you get past 60 it is totally haphazard in terms of life span ..Some people croak at 65 from cacner and others make 90s vigorously.... I visit my father's cousin out near ROC and the guy still drives and plays a sax in a band at the veterans homes...turned 96 a few weeks ago. My father was in great shape at 80, but had an accident and died ...so you never know what the hand of fate is gonna be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted March 27, 2011 Share Posted March 27, 2011 The GFS does have some similarities to the 00z euro, but it's a little further north with the lead storm,and seemingly further south with the second low. It almost looks like the lead storm is using an entirely different s/w that is modeled. Edit: I think it is the same one, but another s/w seems to come around the bend and amplify it, out ahead of the next big s/w to come down and ignite the second low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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