Duality Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 Yeah what a crazy day of weather. I will not forget this....all types of preciep.......with thunder and lightning thrown in......welcome back to winter.... dust off the plows did ya? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Torchey Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 Yes I realize that but they weren't expecting accumulations for areas like the South Shore where 2" fell, and Mt. Holly was also short on their map in NJ where Blairstown had 5" and farther north got pummeled. I didn't see the immediate suburbs expected to get 5" with 10" up in the northern hills. Also, they were calling for mostly a rain event here during the day when everything that fell was basically snow. It's not really that the precipitation was lacking because a lot of areas did get their expected QPF, just not here. They had the reverse scenario with the northern areas like Middletown and Northern Westchester getting a ton of snow and my area getting almost nothing, clearly a forecast based on temps, but the cut-off in precip was just farther south than imagined. I don't think Northern Westchester has gotten more than here, probably less. These WAA bands can be intense but thin...they always seem to be underforecast. I remember this happened in the 1/27 storm where we weren't supposed to get anything in the morning until the deformation axis came through, and then we ended up with 4" in the AM hours. I can't fault the NWS too much on this storm as basically everyone has busted for different reasons...this event has been all over the place with model mayhem, heavy thunderstorm, virga for areas expected to get snow, etc. you owe okx an apology, you busted really, really bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-X Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 Huge snowflakes too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chazman Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 Streets and sidewalks now being covered with light coating of wet snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowlover11 Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 Weird sleet in westchester down here in midtown its snowing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEXtreme Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 Its filling in eastern Pa and it looks like the precip in southeast Pa is starting to move ENE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzucker Posted March 24, 2011 Author Share Posted March 24, 2011 So what your saying is that it didnt rain in Dobbs Ferry today? I was on the Saw Mill passing through Ardsley and I can assure you it was raining. I noticed the transition from frozen to liquid around Suffern. I had very little rain here...there was about .5" of snow accumulation overnight and then the precip was very light with just an occasional flurry or mix during the day. It started back up as snow/sleet mix tonight and has flipped to snow quickly, but it's just light intensity..roads have a light coating in my neighborhood. The problem with this storm has been that we're on the edge of all the banding. It is 32/32 here, could stick easily. But it just seems like the northern suburbs are getting screwed in favor of Central-Northern NJ. I can't really complain though with near 70" this season. Ironically, Upton's call for 2.5" here tonight might bust. I thought they'd bust low but they might bust high with the crappy radar signature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snywx Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 LOL... You have got to be kidding me. Upton has raised amounts in my area to near 9". http://www.erh.noaa.gov/okx/stormtotalprecip.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 Looks like back edge of precipitation, which continues to move in an ese direction, will be passing through our area over the next 2 hours. Virtually the entire northern third of PA and extreme nw NJ has already dried out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-X Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 Yeah, this is when we wanted it to move in anyway-- not 4 / 5 PM when everyone was whining.... because this is when it was going to be cold enough to snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FPizz Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 All snow here too. This would be a nice ending to winter with a crazy day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skierinvermont Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 . Also, they were calling for mostly a rain event here during the day when everything that fell was basically snow. Really? From 4pm yesterday: ISSUE IS HOW MUCH OF BOTH. PORTIONS OF THE LOWERHUDSON VALLEY AND INTERIOR CT MAY STAY ALL SNOW FOR MUCH OF THE EVENT You are nitpicking a few meso bands from around the region to pick on them... the overall nature of the storm as being light and disorganized has been correct. It was a difficult forecast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cfa Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 It's snowing now This is too much lol, very interesting though despite me disliking winter very much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris L Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 Yeah what a crazy day of weather. I will not forget this....all types of preciep.......with thunder and lightning thrown in......welcome back to winter.... Indeed. Tonight was nuts, Timmy. Ihunder sleet while coming come from school and the roads were quite slick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 dust off the plows did ya? lol...nah did not have to do that...dont want to either...they are all washed up and put away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkviking Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 Thunder and light now here in Miller Place--snowbelt central of Long Island. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreeRain Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 Just drove from Bethpage to N. Syosset and even the main roads have a thin icy layer of snow on them. Temp. between 32 and 33, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-X Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 LOL... You have got to be kidding me. Upton has raised amounts in my area to near 9". http://www.erh.noaa....totalprecip.php Good-- I hope that back end stalls and we all get buried under a deformation band as the coastal develops Seeing that back end race east just after you've changed over to all snow is the worst possible feeling lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skierinvermont Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 In any case it is too early to say "bust" or "epic win"...let's see what happens tonight as the coastal develops. The storm is pretty much over for CT and SE NY except for LI and NJ I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snywx Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 I had very little rain here...there was about .5" of snow accumulation overnight and then the precip was very light with just an occasional flurry or mix during the day. It started back up as snow/sleet mix tonight and has flipped to snow quickly, but it's just light intensity..roads have a light coating in my neighborhood. The problem with this storm has been that we're on the edge of all the banding. It is 32/32 here, could stick easily. But it just seems like the northern suburbs are getting screwed in favor of Central-Northern NJ. I can't really complain though with near 70" this season. Ironically, Upton's call for 2.5" here tonight might bust. I thought they'd bust low but they might bust high with the crappy radar signature. Is there any sign of a pivot or coastal taking over on radar? I think all that convection earlier in PA robbed us of all the moisture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzucker Posted March 24, 2011 Author Share Posted March 24, 2011 you owe okx an apology, you busted really, really bad I would say we both are going to end up busting badly, but the storm is not over yet I actually think my argument that the storm was cold enough for our area was good. All of the low forecasts were based on temps. But it's not a temp problem at all. The GFS with its warm/north track was wrong as I suspected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-X Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 Everything is covered again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAT5ANDREW Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 <br />Good-- I hope that back end stalls and we all get buried under a deformation band as the coastal develops <img src='http://208.71.34.143/public/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' /> Seeing that back end race east just after you've changed over to all snow is the worst possible feeling lol.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />AJ Burnett has a better chance of winning 25 games this year than that back end stalling.LOL!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Torchey Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 I would say we both are going to end up busting badly, but the storm is not over yet I actually think my argument that the storm was cold enough for our area was good. All of the low forecasts were based on temps. But it's not a temp problem at all. The GFS with its warm/north track was wrong as I suspected. dude the storm is over for us, and you called out upton, it was a disgrace what you said about them, there forecast was spot on for you and i let it go, and salvage something Nate, you are a good guy. let it go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ericjcrash Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 Its filling in eastern Pa and it looks like the precip in southeast Pa is starting to move ENE Stop, its moving east. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skierinvermont Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 All of the low forecasts were based on temps. Not Upton's. Upton's low forecast was based on mid-level drying, light long duration precip. They said it might stay all snow for CT and lower hudson valley... IE YOU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris L Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 moderate snow here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterwarlock Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 dust off the plows did ya? we actually got a couple of scrapings in and salted some walks and parking lots. Marginal events like this can be easy money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzucker Posted March 24, 2011 Author Share Posted March 24, 2011 dude the storm is over for us, and you called out upton, it was a disgrace what you said about them, there forecast was spot on for you and i let it go, and salvage something Nate, you are a good guy. let it go. Forecast wasn't really spot on...they have like 2.5" snow accumulation here tonight, and where is that going to come from? We are under 0dbz right now. They also didn't have any accumulation for South Shore LI/JFK area which did see like 2" last night...even warm JFK measuring on the roof got .7". No one imagined NJ would get 5-10"... As much as I was wrong, so was the NWS. The storm just screwed with all the models and forecasts terribly. Most models had me getting like .75" QPF and I bet I haven't even seen .2" QPF. What's really a disgrace is how bad the computer models are at a 24-hour lead time, just terrible. Makes it hard to forecast when you are working with these models. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag3 Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 Nate, skier, litch. Please!!!! Enough Upton talk. Wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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