West Milford Highlander Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 Overnight stuff wasn't based in elevation. It was a strict who got into heavier banding. For instance. Jamaica Queens area has a good amount of snow covering almost everything. And a few miles north in northern and eastern Queens, almost nothing. Exactly! Up in west Milford elevation close to 1000 we were just too far north of heavy banding - only 2-4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
battlebrick Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 Yup, huge surprise here in N NJ. I'm going to estimate around 5 inches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocoAko Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 Just got up a short while ago - a quick peek out the window shows a sloppy inch here on non-paved surfaces, just as expected.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-X Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 That goes to show you how tricky these storms are. Dynamics are everything. JFK got into that good band. It's those bands mdt to hvy snow that really are what pile up the snow. It looks like areas that didn't get the benefit of that were more lighter snows or a mix, based on the obs here. The same deal for the April 1996 storm. Recall that had a mega deformation band that pivoted into LI, during the overnight hours. That's how you pile it up. So you can see why people are conservative for borderline areas. It's tough to make a weenie-cast and bash people being conservative when you have to bank on a renegade band of mdt to hvy snow to really pile it up. It's the type of snows that may be difficult to stick where vis is a mile or greater. Temps aloft were very cold this morning, which helped the cause for the city. It will be interesting to see how things go today. I agree, these spring storms are the most difficult to forecast. Personally, I would have gone for 1-3" for here prior to this event starting.... Im still holding onto that, as you need a large intense organized system with lots of cold air to get widespread heavy totals this time of year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 I agree, these spring storms are the most difficult to forecast. Personally, I would have gone for 1-3" for here prior to this event starting.... Im still holding onto that, as you need a large intense organized system with lots of cold air to get widespread heavy totals this time of year. Yeah I think your area in nrn LI I presume is in better shape for perhaps 1-3". If dynamics blow up..perhaps more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgwp96 Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 picture from rockaway nj, morris county. 5 miles away from me. I have 1 inch lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith O Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 7" here in Andover and looks like first round is over. We'll see what shapes up with this evening second round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgwp96 Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 Exactly! Up in west Milford elevation close to 1000 we were just too far north of heavy banding - only 2-4. yea and i missed it by literally 3 miles lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 picture from rockaway nj, morris county. 5 miles away from me. I have 1 inch lol They must be a few hundred feet higher. Elevation is huge this time of year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgwp96 Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 They must be a few hundred feet higher. Elevation is huge this time of year. well yes but not from this. i was 32 with light snow while they got clobbered with a heavy band. even caldwell nj at 200 ft elevation had 7 inches. Im at about 400. I just missed the heavy stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-X Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 yea and i missed it by literally 3 miles lol So you went down there just to measure it eh? lol... and I thought I was dedicated-- Ive been up since 2 AM tracking this snowfall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-X Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 well yes but not from this. i was 32 with light snow while they got clobbered with a heavy band. even caldwell nj at 200 ft elevation had 7 inches. Im at about 400. I just missed the heavy stuff I cant wait for the PNS to come out at 11 AM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgwp96 Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 So you went down there just to measure it eh? lol... and I thought I was dedicated-- Ive been up since 2 AM tracking this snowfall. haha no, I have a lot of friends that like the snow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
battlebrick Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 I cant wait for the PNS to come out at 11 AM Yeah, me too. I've heard measurements of 8 inches and 1 inch here in Rockaway... but I'm around 800 ft in elevation and the snow looks more like 6-7 inches, so my estimation may be way off. I thought I was being conservative, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 well yes but not from this. i was 32 with light snow while they got clobbered with a heavy band. even caldwell nj at 200 ft elevation had 7 inches. Im at about 400. I just missed the heavy stuff I just saw the images. That happens a lot in these sheared WAA events. I made a comment either in here or in the SNE thread to Nate, about how these bands move in but they are sometimes a narrow but sheared band of S+. The reason is that frontogenesis is sometimes enhanced at the leading edge due to confluence. We also see this during cstl storms when the far nrn band is what some call the "death band" where areas are pounded with s+. See Philly in Feb of last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelocita Weather Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 I just saw the images. That happens a lot in these sheared WAA events. I made a comment either in here or in the SNE thread to Nate, about how these bands move in but they are sometimes a narrow but sheared band of S+. The reason is that frontogenesis is sometimes enhanced at the leading edge due to confluence. We also see this during cstl storms when the far nrn band is what some call the "death band" where areas are pounded with s+. See Philly in Feb of last year. 1.25" in Millburn, brings the yearly up to 60". Hopefully tonight we will get some additional... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris L Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 About one inch fell. not bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-X Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 Looks like the back edge of the back edge is moving through now.... this was a nice 7 hours of snow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgwp96 Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 I just saw the images. That happens a lot in these sheared WAA events. I made a comment either in here or in the SNE thread to Nate, about how these bands move in but they are sometimes a narrow but sheared band of S+. The reason is that frontogenesis is sometimes enhanced at the leading edge due to confluence. We also see this during cstl storms when the far nrn band is what some call the "death band" where areas are pounded with s+. See Philly in Feb of last year. heres a composite radar shot. you can see my town of butler(im in the northern most section of my town) we just missed the dark blue area which dropped 5-9 inches. (from lab94 from nyc board) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag3 Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 6z NAM at 11pm tonight: 8pm-2am Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jconsor Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 The 2/21 event also had strong confluence with a narrow band of S+ on the leading edge of the precip. over NW NJ/interior SE NY. I just saw the images. That happens a lot in these sheared WAA events. I made a comment either in here or in the SNE thread to Nate, about how these bands move in but they are sometimes a narrow but sheared band of S+. The reason is that frontogenesis is sometimes enhanced at the leading edge due to confluence. We also see this during cstl storms when the far nrn band is what some call the "death band" where areas are pounded with s+. See Philly in Feb of last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manny Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 Just huge wet flakes out in the city. Only cars and some trees are covered. Tonight should be better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-X Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 heres a composite radar shot. you can see my town of butler(im in the northern most section of my town) we just missed the dark blue area which dropped 5-9 inches. (from lab94 from nyc board) Hey, now I feel ripped off-- I was in that dark blue band and only got an inch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 The 2/21 event also had strong confluence with a narrow band of S+ on the leading edge of the precip. over NW NJ/interior SE NY. Yeah that was the storm Nzucker has a big fetish..lol, but rightfully so. You need to move to the northeast. You definitely enjoy the variety of weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isnice Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 What are we looking at in terms of start time this evening? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowlover11 Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 Nothing but rain..a couple flakes mixed in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tornadojay Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 i have very light snow.. whatever minor accumulation stuck to the grass and cars is melting quickly.. maybe it was a 1/4 - 1/2 inch.... 33/32 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dsnowx53 Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 I kind of wish I actually measured before the snow tapered off--there is certainly less snow now than there was at like 6amish when I went to sleep. I "think" we had around 1.75" on grassy surfaces at that time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 Not much here this am either-burst of snow from 8am to now which has just ended-didnt land on anything...temp is 34.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTrials Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 Tthe stuff this morning is bonus. Tonight is the real mccoy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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