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Another winter storm March 28-30?


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I didn't think it was possible for the GFS to get any worse up here.. Just a matter of time until the gfs and euro meet in the middle leaving it nothing to see up here. I do really hope somebody can pull out the 6"+ storm yet to come I predicted for somewhere between here to LAF. North woods already got their big one out of the way. Detroit will be due again when this one rolls around.

I really can't believe how our zone of the country has been snubbed by so many systems this winter. I mean I made out well with lake enhanced snow in January which REALLY bumped up my snow totals. But of all the tens and tens of systems that moved through this winter, we really only got "pounded" by two of them, with all the others leaving us right on the edge with a dustng or with a few snowflakes and mostly rain. Detroit has a lot more synoptic snow than us. In fact, they did better last winter with that too. I keep reminding myself to look at Chicago and see they only average 35 inches or so of snow, and then say realistically, this zone just isn't in a good spot for snowstorms. :(

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NAM is an outlier...

MODEL DIAGNOSTIC DISCUSSION

NWS HYDROMETEOROLOGICAL PREDICTION CENTER CAMP SPRINGS MD

1108 AM EDT SAT MAR 26 2011

VALID MAR 26/1200 UTC THRU MAR 30/0000 UTC

12Z NAM EVALUATION

...SYSTEM REACHING THE WEST COAST ON SUNDAY...

...LOW DEVELOPING OVER THE PLAINS MONDAY EVENING...

THE NAM IS SLIGHTLY SLOWER THAN THE 00Z CONSENSUS WITH THE

UPPER-LEVEL WAVE AS IT MOVES ONSHORE IN THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST. AS

THE ENERGY FROM THIS WAVE EXITS THE ROCKIES INTO THE PLAINS LATE

MONDAY...THE NAM APPEARS TO BE AN OUTLIER RELATIVE TO THE 00Z

GUIDANCE...DEPICTING A FASTER AND LESS AMPLIFIED SOLUTION WITH THE

UPPER-LEVEL WAVE...RESULTING IN A FASTER AND MORE SUPPRESSED

PATTERN AT THE SURFACE.

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I loled this morning reading GRR

THE CURRENT VERSION OF THIS SYSTEM WOULD GIVE US ACCUMULATING SNOW.

THIS SHOULD BE A WINDY STORM TOO. ANOTHER CONSIDERATION IS THAT

TYPICALLY THIS FAR OUT IN TIME IN THE FORECAST CYCLE THE LOW ENDS UP

TRACKING FARTHER NORTH AND WEST THE CURRENT MODELS SHOW. THUS IT MAY

WELL END UP BEING A RAIN STORM FOR GRR AND SNOW STORM FOR ROUTE 10

AND NORTH BUT FOR NOW LETS NOT TRY TO GET TOO FAR AHEAD OF THE

MODELS JUST YET. SO I WENT FOR ALL SNOW NOW AND CALLED THAT GOOD.

WE SHALL SEE HOW THIS WORKS OUT.

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I loled this morning reading GRR

ha, I was going to post the same thing. Time after time WFOs have been falling back on the "NW trend" to justify their forecasts and then be subsequently burned. Truly think that bias has been worked out of the models. It was one thing when we had the -NAO/-AO blocking throughout 2009-10 and December of this winter to suggest the NW trend was only temporarily gone, but we've been out of that pattern for a few months now and if anything there's been a propensity amongst the models to be too far NW in the D3-7 time period.

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