Clinch Leatherwood Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 It's on NHK, Edano news conference. #3 containment may be breached. I think the translation may have been bad. It sounded more to me like they had to pull them BACK but not out. IE they cannot go figure out what's happening because protocol says the radiation is way too high near the reactors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janetjanet998 Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 Temperature rising in number 5 and 6 still per the presser still...."doing our best to cool it down" now is that possible with no one at the plant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwt Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 Can't really blame the workers for finally leaving, they have done a heroic job just staying that long in the first place. Sorta get the feeling they are battling against something that is unwinnable right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurricaneJosh Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 Interesting article from the NYT Re: the psychology of the brave 50 who are trying to get this situation under control: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/16/world/asia/16workers.html?pagewanted=1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoMo Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 I think the translation may have been bad. It sounded more to me like they had to pull them BACK but not out. IE they cannot go figure out what's happening because protocol says the radiation is way too high near the reactors. I think they pulled back to a safe location but haven't left the area? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 apparently the 50 are no longer there??? I agree....this could become a global response gig..... just heard him state they are preparing water pumping.......which would require a crew on the site.....so perhaps the 50 are still there and rotating time in the control room???? CNN has new alert govt official....workers have suspended operations geez info coming form there is a mess..... Chernobyl required some deaths to get it under control. Same may have to happen here, unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinch Leatherwood Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 Edano on NHK stated All workers have been removed frm the facility.. At one point radiation spiked to 1 Sv.. Not good.. Re the criticality...."well anything is possible in this world..." I don't think we need to be prepared for this reaching criticality. That's comforting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurricaneJosh Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 You can't force help on people. If Japan/TEPCO wants outside help in the form of man power, I'm sure they'll ask and the world will respond. Actually, as the crisis may have broader implications outside of Japan, I'm not sure it's only Japan's decision to make at this point. This is not a strictly internal matter-- it imperils other nations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott747 Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 Forget what I said about Edano yesterday. It's an absolute cluster**** over there now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoMo Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 So he messed up and said milliseverts but meant microseverts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Askew Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 Call it what you will I just had a bad feeling about this from the word go. ive Prayed this would somehow be brought under control. We truly are in uncharted waters with the light of so much in so may reactors going bad.. More worrisome is the Storage area.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SP Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 Forget what I said about Edano yesterday. It's an absolute cluster**** over there now. complete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jburns Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 Forget what I said about Edano yesterday. It's an absolute cluster**** over there now. CNN reported that PM Kan was heard using profanity in a call to TEPCO. Wouldn't mean much here but totally out of character for the Japanese. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePhotoGuy Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 Interesting article from the NYT Re: the psychology of the brave 50 who are trying to get this situation under control: http://www.nytimes.c...ml?pagewanted=1 That's a very interesting article. Thank you for posting it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperNET Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 This is getting sideways..all breaking at the same time. Containment vessels in #1 and #3 may now be damaged.... Edano 2 mS reading at the plant....all workers are leaving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indystorm Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 Some perspective: Of the 2,044 nuclear weapons tests worldwide, there have been 711 in the atmosphere or underwater: 215 by the U.S., 207 by the Soviet Union, 21 by Britain, 45 by France and, 23 by China. The last atmospheric nuclear weapons test occurred on 16 October 1980 in China. The first was on 16 July 1945 in the U.S. It is estimated that the total yield of all the atmospheric nuclear weapons tests conducted is 438 megatons. That's equivalent to 29,200 Hiroshima size bombs. In the 36 years between 1945 and 1980 when atmospheric testing was being conducted this would have been equivalent to exploding a Hiroshima size bomb in the atmosphere every 11 hour Being an old fart I was around for almost all of them and I'm still here. Not trying to minimize what is happening at all but this is not a doomsday scenario. Even if the worst happens it will be a mere speck compared to what we purposefully dumped into our atmosphere during those years. C'mon now. I'm 60 but these tests were conducted in remote land sites, underground, or in oceanic areas. Honshu is highly populated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SP Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 So we have problems with all 6 reactors now??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinch Leatherwood Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 So we have problems with all 6 reactors now??? Yes, all six. Like MSNBC is saying...they have some expert on just saying that if nobody is left to work on these reactors it's a "grave" situation. If they don't relieve pressure the reactors will cook off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurricaneJosh Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 That's a very interesting article. Thank you for posting it. You're welcome. It's kind of alarming that they're all being evacuated-- as I'm not sure how they can make progress toward controlling this. Oy gevalt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperNET Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 Japan is asking the US Military for support and help to end this crisis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartyOn Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 Financial Markets have snapped backed in a good manor. Yesterday's sell off was way over done. Its gona take a complete Meltdown or major fire for these markets to role over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag3 Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 I really doubt all employees are leaving. How can that be? If true, then they are basically giving up and will allow all 6 units to collapse and this will become a historic disaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janetjanet998 Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 Japan is asking the US Military for support and help to end this crisis not sure what we can do... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurricaneJosh Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 This reminds me a bit of the Gulf oil spill-- another situation that neither technology nor manpower nor the world's best minds could remedy-- but of course this is way more serious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jburns Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 C'mon now. I'm 60 but these tests were conducted in remote land sites, underground, or in oceanic areas. Honshu is highly populated. A very tragic local and possibly regional event, but my point is that things like the US Surgeon General telling Americans to get iodine pills are a total overreaction to an event 5000 miles from the west coast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperNET Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 not sure what we can do... I think we are near the end.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag3 Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 This reminds me a bit of the Gulf oil spill-- another situation that neither technology nor manpower nor the world's best minds could remedy-- but of course this is way more serious. The majority of the oil was cleaned up. The government and BP did a remarkable job with cleanup. There is no way to clean up radiation, as we know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikolai Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 I really doubt all employees are leaving. How can that be? If true, then they are basically giving up and will allow all 6 units to collapse and this will become a historic disaster. We all know that assuming makes an ass out of you and me, but... gah, this is looking awful... I am likely wrong but perhaps the workers were withdrawn because they can't really do anything at this point anymore, and there's no sense in letting them all die if disaster is inevitable... their actions have been heroic regardless, but it doesn't make sense that they've been risking their lives up till now and suddenly they can't work anymore? As people have said, it's practically a suicide mission anyways... very confusing/disturbing. It's also crazy that, if this gets worse, the world may see two of the worst ecological disasters known in the span of two years (Bastar* Petroleum Gulf Oil Spill being the other). It's very sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plokoon111 Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 This event will make the gulf spill look like a pond on a street compared to a great lake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 This reminds me a bit of the Gulf oil spill-- another situation that neither technology nor manpower nor the world's best minds could remedy-- but of course this is way more serious. I thought the same thing. There is a bit of difference in that this plant was by all accounts safe and well-run. It was just subjected to a very, very rare event. The BP spill was a result of human negligence and greed, really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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