NJHurricane Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 That is from the Danni plant and has been as such since early this morning. Yes I think that is in reference to the Daini plant...which is several km away from the Daichi plant, the one where all the **** is hitting the fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinch Leatherwood Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 Watching NHK. So their review of the presser....reactor 4 no longer has a building. Something caused the spent fuel to burn. Fire is now "out".... The rad camera is now down too. but there appears to be another one up. http://www.ustream.tv/channel/geiger-counter-tokyo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ineedsnow Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 Heading for U.S.? Radiation plume animation map from Fukushima — via Spiegel Online http://www.floridaoi...-spiegel-online Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnc Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 I think NHK reported earlier that all 4 reactors are in cold shutdown at Plant #2. Apparently they replaced some kind of "motors" to make cooling possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott747 Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 Yes I think that is in reference to the Daini plant...which is several km away from the Daichi plant, the one where all the **** is hitting the fan. I had posted earlier that they had taken the #1 reactor and #2 reactor off emergency status (both achieving cold shutdown.) #3 was already in a cold shutdown and they were working on the #4. Good news gets lost sometimes. http://www.tepco.co.jp/en/press/corp-com/release/11031404-e.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinch Leatherwood Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 no fly zone of 30 km around the plant. Market settling a little...12%, I really hope from the personal side and financial side things turn more optimistic on Tuesday. Hoping for better news Tuesday, I just feel so bad for these people. Been too many mass tragedies in the last 10 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daddylonglegs Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 Just caught this, is it true?? " Did the US Army help put out #4! The fire fighting Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant No. 4 U.S. Army extinguished .東京電力は１５日、火災が起きた福島第一原子力発電所の４号機の消火活動に、米軍があたっていると発表した。 TEPCO 15th, Unit 4 of firefighting Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Station fire happened, we are working with the U.S. military announced. 火災はその後、鎮火したとみられている。 The fire later was extinguished are expected." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daddylonglegs Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 This helped me: There are two Fukushima plants. Fukushima Daiichi is Fukushima 1 and Fukushima Daini is Fukushima 2. Fukushima 2 has four reactors and they have all been confirmed to be shutdown and safe. Fukushiama 1 or Fukushima Daiichi has 6 reactors. Only 1-3 where running when the earthquake hit. Fukushima daiichi 1 was the first to start to melt down and had a hydrogen explosion on Saturday. Fukushima daiichi 3 was the next to go boom via hydrogen and did so on Sunday. This is the reactor with the Mox fuel. Fukushima daiichi 2 had some sort of explosion that damaged the outer containment just a few hours ago. Fukushima daiichi 4 which was shut down at the time of the earthquake is having problems with its spent fuel pool, a fire that was put out and just a couple of minutes ago a hydrogen explosion. All the reports of radioactivity you are seeing are coming from the daiichi plant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazzo83 Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 This helped me: There are two Fukushima plants. Fukushima Daiichi is Fukushima 1 and Fukushima Daini is Fukushima 2. Fukushima 2 has four reactors and they have all been confirmed to be shutdown and safe. Fukushiama 1 or Fukushima Daiichi has 6 reactors. Only 1-3 where running when the earthquake hit. Fukushima daiichi 1 was the first to start to melt down and had a hydrogen explosion on Saturday. Fukushima daiichi 3 was the next to go boom via hydrogen and did so on Sunday. This is the reactor with the Mox fuel. Fukushima daiichi 2 had some sort of explosion that damaged the outer containment just a few hours ago. Fukushima daiichi 4 which was shut down at the time of the earthquake is having problems with its spent fuel pool, a fire that was put out and just a couple of minutes ago a hydrogen explosion. All the reports of radioactivity you are seeing are coming from the daiichi plant. So the explosion in daiichi 4 occurred AFTER the fire was put out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkman Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 Just caught this, is it true?? " Did the US Army help put out #4! The fire fighting Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant No. 4 U.S. Army extinguished .東京電力は１５日、火災が起きた福島第一原子力発電所の４号機の消火活動に、米軍があたっていると発表した。 TEPCO 15th, Unit 4 of firefighting Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Station fire happened, we are working with the U.S. military announced. 火災はその後、鎮火したとみられている。 The fire later was extinguished are expected." Where did you see that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Rent Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 Fukushiama 1 or Fukushima Daiichi has 6 reactors. Only 1-3 where running when the earthquake hit. Fukushima daiichi 1 was the first to start to melt down and had a hydrogen explosion on Saturday. Fukushima daiichi 3 was the next to go boom via hydrogen and did so on Sunday. This is the reactor with the Mox fuel. Fukushima daiichi 2 had some sort of explosion that damaged the outer containment just a few hours ago. Fukushima daiichi 4 which was shut down at the time of the earthquake is having problems with its spent fuel pool, a fire that was put out and just a couple of minutes ago a hydrogen explosion. All the reports of radioactivity you are seeing are coming from the daiichi plant. This is the 4 silver square buildings we see the vids of , correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPPYVALLEY Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 Heading for U.S.? Radiation plume animation map from Fukushima — via Spiegel Online http://www.floridaoi...-spiegel-online As far as some of the over hyped media reports of the jet stream carrying radiation to the west coast of the US I would think it would be pretty diffused in the atmosphere to be very threatening by the time it got here. Correct? Bad situation if you are in the immediate area of the reactors but little danger to anyone on the US mainland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daddylonglegs Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 Someone on another forum looks like they are translating some Japanese news site....QUICK Ntsukei >? You got me.. Have no idea of Reactor 4 and the fire and the explosion, what came first.....probably doesn't matter at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnc Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 So the explosion in daiichi 4 occurred AFTER the fire was put out? Unless I misunderstood, at the press conference Edano said that the hydrogen explosion at reactor 4 occurred around 6am Tuesday morning, about a half-hour before the explosion at reactor 2. This hydrogen explosion was probably caused by lack of cooling on the spent fuel rods and likely caused the building fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daddylonglegs Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 Brent- Yup..those look like are problems Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPPYVALLEY Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 no fly zone of 30 km around the plant. Market settling a little...12%, I really hope from the personal side and financial side things turn more optimistic on Tuesday. Hoping for better news Tuesday, I just feel so bad for these people. Been too many mass tragedies in the last 10 years. This does not get better for quite some time I'm afraid. Aftershocks are a big concern, radiation just as big. Disease possibly another concern especially because it is an island. Japanese market will take some time to recover but shouldn't sustain long term damage. Even with all that's gone on in Japan the US dollar is still in a far worse state then the yen. Some aspects of the Japanese, US, German and other financial interests will profit from the rebuilding efforts. A few weeks/months down the road infrastructure rebuilding will temporarily boost copper prices and other metals and commodities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daddylonglegs Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 Thought about this earlier and saw it on drudge now. Says that all products from Japan may need to be tested for radiation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ineedsnow Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 drudge is junk! Thought about this earlier and saw it on drudge now. Says that all products from Japan may need to be tested for radiation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkman Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 You really think they're just going to ship products out without testing them? This isn't China we're talking about. Back on topic...I'm kinda feeling like no news is good news right now, although the way this has been going that isn't necessarily the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Witness Protection Program Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 Some quick geography: Chernobyl's significant impacts were limited to about 1000 miles at its longest plume (northward.) For Americans not in Japan: Siapan and Guam are at least 1575 miles away from Japan's troubled nuke plant. Closest Alaskan island is 1800+ miles. Closest part of the Alaskan mainland is 2700+ miles. Closest part of Hawaii is about 3500 miles. Closest part of the lower 48 states is more than 4500 miles. Closest part of the Korean mainland is about 635 miles away, so even in the worst case impacts will probably be low and easy to avoid/mitigate. China mainland is about 1000 miles, same for Okinawa. Taiwain mainland is 1400+ miles, Phillipines mainland 1700+. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalcottWx Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 I am least concerned about products and more concerned about the radiation effects on people abroad and at home. It's obvious that this is a much worse situation as I personally expected. It's been downplayed by some news channels imo but this is an absolute crisis. Worse in deaths, economy, and stability worldwide than 9/11 imo. If this gets much worse some really large areas of Japan could be inhabitable, could they not? Going to throw off Asian politics as NK is given an sload of more breathing room with Japan in crisis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowlover11 Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 Reactor number 4 is now on fire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hailstorm Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 BREAKING NEWS: Cooling of No. 5, No. 6 reactors appears not to be working properly: Edano 16:42 15 March Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ineedsnow Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 again? Reactor number 4 is now on fire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avdave Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 Heading for U.S.? Radiation plume animation map from Fukushima — via Spiegel Online http://www.floridaoi...-spiegel-online What a terrible headline and it isnt happening either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hailstorm Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 BREAKING NEWS: Fukushima's spent nuke fuel pool may be boiling, reducing water 17:29 15 March Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ineedsnow Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/special/world/japan-nuclear-reactors-and-seismic-activity/?hpid=topnews Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikolai Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 So it now seems that there has indeed been an explosion at reactor #4; Japan nuclear safety agency: Two 8-metre holes in wall of Fukushima No.4 outer building after blast http://twitter.com/reutersflash As all four buildings have now been compromised, I take it that any further explosions would be much more serious? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LovintheWhiteFluff Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 So it now seems that there has indeed been an explosion at reactor #4; Japan nuclear safety agency: Two 8-metre holes in wall of Fukushima No.4 outer building after blast http://twitter.com/reutersflash As all four buildings have now been compromised, I take it that any further explosions would be much more serious? Interesting.....They also said radiation levels have come down and it's not harmful. I'm not sure of the blast time, but at 2:30ET Edano said, "The level has come down to the level to cause no harm to human health, according to the report I have received," Chief Cabinet Secretary Yukio Edano told reporters, describing reading taken at the plant's front gate. Edano said readings at the gate at 3:30 p.m. (2:30 a.m. ET) were 596.4 microsieverts per hour -- compared to a high reading of 11,930 microsieverts per hour at 9 a.m. (8 p.m. ET Monday). http://www.cnn.com/2...dex.html?hpt=T1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurricaneJosh Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 A rather alarming take on the situation, from the normally stoic Reuters: http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/03/15/us-japan-quake-idUSTRE72A0SS20110315 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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