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Reactor meltdown possible in Japan.


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That was certainly fast over the initial ten hr. expectation, but that may have proven inaccurate.

I'm thinking as Ian said there's a much more rapid news spread over there. We get bits and pieces and most US news outlets now don't run all night like they once did in crisis.

http://dailybail.com/home/watch-live-geiger-counter-from-tokyo-live-stream-nhk-tv-from.html

nik in a complete free fall, down nearly 1300, i wonder if they are getting news we aren't. Flow of info really seems to have dried up.

13.35%, Japanese auto makers getting crushed. Think about the financial impact if our markets fell 13% in a single day. Damn.

It's all related, what other news is causing that rapid a sell off? There are contradictions everywhere.

The tokyo rad counter is starting to rise again. Steady increase. I'm willing to bet they are getting live time reports where we are getting second hand through Kyoto. Fact is fear motivates markets and in this case you have the government over there saying "it's not that bad" and an hour or two later there are reports that the radiation already reached one of the most populated cities in the world.

Since I started typing the tokyo counter is up .03

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0359: Edward O'Brien, from Yotsukaido, Chiba-ken, Japan, writes: "Most of the people fleeing or complaining about information being withheld seem to be foreign residents. Very few Japanese people I know in Chiba and Tokyo are even thinking of evacuating."

Americans overreacting? Say it aint so.

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Let me guess...you were watching it on CNN, right?

:rolleyes:

I don't really watch much cable TV but I do know the media and I'm not about to make wxrisks Facebook page my go to. ;)

By and large the story seems to be the experts are a waiting and watching just like everyone else.

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CNN isn't even live, what a joke. CNBC world seems to be the only channel here in the states with up-to-date info.

CNN is not llve because Anderson Cooper was supposed to be live for 2 hours. They had to evacuate the area (64 KM away) and I'm guessing that CNN in Atlanta was not prepared.

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Thanks for the useful variables. I have a question, though: The radiation that was released from reactor #2 is alpha-, beta- or gamma-based?

I don't know. I am no expert by any means. My last rad class was 1 1/2 years ago, and when you don't use the stuff often... :D

I would assume there are all 3 types being released though.

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Yep, that 10 hr estimate appears to have been way off. Markets are in a complete tailspin, no one really seems to know what is going on.

Well I think 10hr based on the extremely heightened amount that came from the explosion in #4. I'd assume what they're seeing now is either from the explosion in #2 and/or the fire in #4 before the hydrogen explosion.

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CNN isn't even live, what a joke. CNBC world seems to be the only channel here in the states with up-to-date info.

Neither is Fox though. CNBC is always live at this hour...CNBC world. I do think it's pathetic that collectively MSNBC/FOX/CNN are offline with such a major human and financial story unfolding. This is on par with the financial collapse. When one of the worlds largest economies drops 20% (markets) in 2 days that's important.

CNN is not llve because Anderson Cooper was supposed to be live for 2 hours. They had to evacuate the area (64 KM away) and I'm guessing that CNN in Atlanta was not prepared.

Would never have happened 20 years ago.

Yep, that 10 hr estimate appears to have been way off. Markets are in a complete tailspin, no one really seems to know what is going on.

Counter still steadily rising in Tokyo. Maket still tumbling. I'm stunned it's down 14%. They are the 2nd largest buyer of our bonds....

According to Bloomberg, oil prices here (gasoline prices) may drop, despite what's going on in the Middle East, because of the Japan earthquake.

One of the largest economies in the world is partially offline right now. IF the 3rd largest producer of oil just got hit with a 9.0 you can bet your butt that we'd be paying through the nose. The fact that prices have not done much to me only solidifies how damaging speculators are in the markets.

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The media is just following the money. This thread is still hopping because there is a committed group interested. I'm sure of the 2 mil watching any given channel those numbers fall rapidly after 11p eastern. Sure they'll be a little slow when not on their turf. And in these situations it is compounded with loads of sketchy information (I don't fully buy the gov hiding/downplaying angle as much as general chaos).

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huh?

"Japanese authorities yesterday reported to the IAEA at 21:05 CET that the reactors Units 1, 2 and 3 of the Fukushima Daini nuclear power plant are in cold shutdown status. This means that the pressure of the water coolant is at around atmospheric level and the temperature is below 100 degrees Celsius. Under these conditions, the reactors are considered to be safely under control."

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"Japanese authorities have reported to the IAEA that Fukushima Daiichi Unit 2 has experienced decreasing coolant levels in the reactor core. Officials have begun to inject sea water into the reactor to maintain cooling of the reactor core.Sea water injections into Units 1 and 3 were interrupted yesterday due to a low level in a sea water supply reservoir, but sea water injections have now been restored at both Units."

VERSUS

"Japanese authorities yesterday reported to the IAEA at 21:05 CET that the reactors Units 1, 2 and 3 of the Fukushima Daini nuclear power plant are in cold shutdown status"

Daiichi is the one that's in trouble.

Japan´s Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency (NISA) has provided the IAEA with further information about the hydrogen explosion that occurred today at the Unit 3 reactor at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant

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Japanese authorities yesterday reported to the IAEA at 21:05 CET that the reactors Units 1, 2 and 3 of the Fukushima Daini nuclear power plant are in cold shutdown status. This means that the pressure of the water coolant is at around atmospheric level and the temperature is below 100 degrees Celsius. Under these conditions, the reactors are considered to be safely under control.

Japanese authorities have also informed the IAEA that teams of experts from Tokyo Electric Power Company (TEPCO), the plant´s operator, are working to restore cooling in the reactor Unit 4 and bring it to cold shutdown.

Fukushima Daiichi is still having major problems.

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