daddylonglegs Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 Caught this on another site about that breached reactor: "They are going to send a robotic camera to take pictures to see." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinch Leatherwood Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 That was certainly fast over the initial ten hr. expectation, but that may have proven inaccurate. I'm thinking as Ian said there's a much more rapid news spread over there. We get bits and pieces and most US news outlets now don't run all night like they once did in crisis. http://dailybail.com/home/watch-live-geiger-counter-from-tokyo-live-stream-nhk-tv-from.html nik in a complete free fall, down nearly 1300, i wonder if they are getting news we aren't. Flow of info really seems to have dried up. 13.35%, Japanese auto makers getting crushed. Think about the financial impact if our markets fell 13% in a single day. Damn. It's all related, what other news is causing that rapid a sell off? There are contradictions everywhere. The tokyo rad counter is starting to rise again. Steady increase. I'm willing to bet they are getting live time reports where we are getting second hand through Kyoto. Fact is fear motivates markets and in this case you have the government over there saying "it's not that bad" and an hour or two later there are reports that the radiation already reached one of the most populated cities in the world. Since I started typing the tokyo counter is up .03 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Rent Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 0359: Edward O'Brien, from Yotsukaido, Chiba-ken, Japan, writes: "Most of the people fleeing or complaining about information being withheld seem to be foreign residents. Very few Japanese people I know in Chiba and Tokyo are even thinking of evacuating." Americans overreacting? Say it aint so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 Let me guess...you were watching it on CNN, right? I don't really watch much cable TV but I do know the media and I'm not about to make wxrisks Facebook page my go to. By and large the story seems to be the experts are a waiting and watching just like everyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJW155 Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 CNN isn't even live, what a joke. CNBC world seems to be the only channel here in the states with up-to-date info. CNN is not llve because Anderson Cooper was supposed to be live for 2 hours. They had to evacuate the area (64 KM away) and I'm guessing that CNN in Atlanta was not prepared. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Rent Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 Thanks for the useful variables. I have a question, though: The radiation that was released from reactor #2 is alpha-, beta- or gamma-based? I don't know. I am no expert by any means. My last rad class was 1 1/2 years ago, and when you don't use the stuff often... I would assume there are all 3 types being released though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkman Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 Yep, that 10 hr estimate appears to have been way off. Markets are in a complete tailspin, no one really seems to know what is going on. Well I think 10hr based on the extremely heightened amount that came from the explosion in #4. I'd assume what they're seeing now is either from the explosion in #2 and/or the fire in #4 before the hydrogen explosion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daddylonglegs Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 someone mentioned Cs-137 is what could be the main radioactive element. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinch Leatherwood Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 CNN isn't even live, what a joke. CNBC world seems to be the only channel here in the states with up-to-date info. Neither is Fox though. CNBC is always live at this hour...CNBC world. I do think it's pathetic that collectively MSNBC/FOX/CNN are offline with such a major human and financial story unfolding. This is on par with the financial collapse. When one of the worlds largest economies drops 20% (markets) in 2 days that's important. CNN is not llve because Anderson Cooper was supposed to be live for 2 hours. They had to evacuate the area (64 KM away) and I'm guessing that CNN in Atlanta was not prepared. Would never have happened 20 years ago. Yep, that 10 hr estimate appears to have been way off. Markets are in a complete tailspin, no one really seems to know what is going on. Counter still steadily rising in Tokyo. Maket still tumbling. I'm stunned it's down 14%. They are the 2nd largest buyer of our bonds.... According to Bloomberg, oil prices here (gasoline prices) may drop, despite what's going on in the Middle East, because of the Japan earthquake. One of the largest economies in the world is partially offline right now. IF the 3rd largest producer of oil just got hit with a 9.0 you can bet your butt that we'd be paying through the nose. The fact that prices have not done much to me only solidifies how damaging speculators are in the markets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bodhi Cove Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 NEWS ADVISORY: Radiation 33 times normal level measured in Utsunomiya, Tochigi (13:12) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daddylonglegs Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 found this out ...someone here may have mentioned it: "The suppression pool is the "torus" which is designed to quench any steam released from primary circuit or reactor vessel itself." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Rent Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 Does anyone know what the background levels were for the counter? Twenty-two doesn't seem that high. I've seen higher in a residential basement (radon) before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daddylonglegs Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 IAEA: Reactors 1, 2, 3 are in cold shutdown status Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazzo83 Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 Tokyo metro gov't confirms that radiation level 23x normal in metro. 0.809 micro sieverts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 The media is just following the money. This thread is still hopping because there is a committed group interested. I'm sure of the 2 mil watching any given channel those numbers fall rapidly after 11p eastern. Sure they'll be a little slow when not on their turf. And in these situations it is compounded with loads of sketchy information (I don't fully buy the gov hiding/downplaying angle as much as general chaos). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daddylonglegs Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 IAEA: Tepco working to restore unit 4 cooling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bodhi Cove Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 IAEA: Reactors 1, 2, 3 are in cold shutdown status Link? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daddylonglegs Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 Its on Marketwatch ticker thing on top of the page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uofmiami Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 Link? http://www.iaea.org/newscenter/news/tsunamiupdate01.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinch Leatherwood Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 IAEA: Reactors 1, 2, 3 are in cold shutdown status IAEA: Tepco working to restore unit 4 cooling I believe that's the other plant...the one that hasn't had explosions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daddylonglegs Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 I have no idea what cold shutdown status means... Haven't these things been shut down since the earthquake? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daddylonglegs Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 huh? "Japanese authorities yesterday reported to the IAEA at 21:05 CET that the reactors Units 1, 2 and 3 of the Fukushima Daini nuclear power plant are in cold shutdown status. This means that the pressure of the water coolant is at around atmospheric level and the temperature is below 100 degrees Celsius. Under these conditions, the reactors are considered to be safely under control." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazzo83 Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 IAEA: Reactors 1, 2, 3 are in cold shutdown status That report was from 2100 CET yesterday, which was 4pm here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott747 Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 IAEA: Reactors 1, 2, 3 are in cold shutdown status That is from the Danni plant and has been as such since early this morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plokoon111 Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 No way, that can't be true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinch Leatherwood Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 "Japanese authorities have reported to the IAEA that Fukushima Daiichi Unit 2 has experienced decreasing coolant levels in the reactor core. Officials have begun to inject sea water into the reactor to maintain cooling of the reactor core.Sea water injections into Units 1 and 3 were interrupted yesterday due to a low level in a sea water supply reservoir, but sea water injections have now been restored at both Units." VERSUS "Japanese authorities yesterday reported to the IAEA at 21:05 CET that the reactors Units 1, 2 and 3 of the Fukushima Daini nuclear power plant are in cold shutdown status" Daiichi is the one that's in trouble. Japan´s Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency (NISA) has provided the IAEA with further information about the hydrogen explosion that occurred today at the Unit 3 reactor at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OHSnow Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 Link? It's the Daiini plant... not the Daiichi plant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bodhi Cove Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 Japanese authorities yesterday reported to the IAEA at 21:05 CET that the reactors Units 1, 2 and 3 of the Fukushima Daini nuclear power plant are in cold shutdown status. This means that the pressure of the water coolant is at around atmospheric level and the temperature is below 100 degrees Celsius. Under these conditions, the reactors are considered to be safely under control. Japanese authorities have also informed the IAEA that teams of experts from Tokyo Electric Power Company (TEPCO), the plant´s operator, are working to restore cooling in the reactor Unit 4 and bring it to cold shutdown. Fukushima Daiichi is still having major problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plokoon111 Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 Ooh, similar names. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daddylonglegs Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 Ahhhh... These freaking time zones are killing me.. and then we get daylight savings... Too many nukes.. I'm going to bed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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