Ginx snewx Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 I have not heard anything about a leak in #3. Not sure where you got that information. The water was simply boiling off and being released via the steam vents until the building exploded due to hydrogen buildup.. There is no system to circulate the water so it's just boiling off as they put it in. #2 had a stuck steam vent, but it is now unstuck and they have been resuming the sea water injection. http://english.kyodo...1/03/77969.html "At 1:10 a.m. Tuesday, TEPCO opened some steam valves and resumed work to pump seawater and is considering opening more valves, according to the company." You cut this part With radiation levels around the facility risen, TEPCO is suspecting the reactor cores have partially melted, a critical nuclear safety situation. ==Kyodo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daddylonglegs Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 What the? I haven't heard anything about leaking and I've been watching this whole mess since it started. That would be news to me too. A stuck valve? Pressure could really build up if that is the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famartin Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 You cut this part With radiation levels around the facility risen, TEPCO is suspecting the reactor cores have partially melted, a critical nuclear safety situation. ==Kyodo Not pertinent since we've suspected that the cores have partially melted since Saturday night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoMo Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 Kyodo: BREAKING NEWS: Blast heard at 6:10 a.m. at Fukushima's No.2 reactor: gov't (another building?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnc Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 NHK: "Blast heard at no. 2 reactor" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daddylonglegs Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 If it is, it shouldn't shock us at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnc Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 Kyodo: BREAKING NEWS: Blast heard at 6:10 a.m. at Fukushima's No.2 reactor: gov't (another building?) wow that was two hours ago... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoMo Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 Yep and... BREAKING NEWS: Suppression pool may have been damaged at No. 2 reactor: gov't agency (08:07) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daddylonglegs Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 Is that where they keep used rods? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 Not pertinent since we've suspected that the cores have partially melted since Saturday night. Really, your posts Sat were not that but I digress, we were only talking about one situation Sat. Now reports of fully exposed rods, I do not believe anyone knows what the final outcome, all suppositions but when the people running the show say suspects it shows uncertainty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoMo Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 Some TEPCO staff are being evacuated from the area. Suppression pool possibly damaged by explosion. Could have been some cracks formed in the pool and radioactive water may have leaked out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag3 Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 Foxnews is on this. They have NHK translation on now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag3 Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 NHK translation is saying something about radiation levels are 10,000 times more then normal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnc Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 Yep and... BREAKING NEWS: Suppression pool may have been damaged at No. 2 reactor: gov't agency (08:07) Did they just say that the operators have been evacuated? Or was that a mistranslation? This analyst guy on NHK is really pessimistic about this news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan11295 Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 Best case is this is just the same thing that happened to the other two, namely the outer shell coming off. Obviously a major concern especially that the already reported a "defect" of some sort in the reactor vessel earlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 Container damaged by latest blast, 747 uh?, geezus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoMo Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 Did they just say that the operators have been evacuated? Or was that a mistranslation? This analyst guy on NHK is really pessimistic about this news. yeah, they evacuated the operators. (The guy on NHK says this may be the worst case for Japan reactors.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famartin Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 Really, your posts Sat were not that but I digress, we were only talking about one situation Sat. Now reports of fully exposed rods, I do not believe anyone knows what the final outcome, all suppositions but when the people running the show say suspects it shows uncertainty. Oh? Thank god. FYI, NHK says that there was indeed a partial meltdown in reactor #1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallow Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 Container damaged by latest blast, 747 uh?, geezus Is the "suppression pool" the same as the "container"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daddylonglegs Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 Mallow- Someone a few days ago talked about those pools where they store used rods. My thinking was that is what they are talking about, but who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 Is the "suppression pool" the same as the "container"? NHK said container and operator evac, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LakeEffectKing Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 If indeed this is "the worst case scenario", (and, believe me, I'm not generally one to be an "alarmist") but we should start monitoring the mid and upper level winds going forward: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famartin Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 If indeed this is "the worst case scenario", (and, believe me, I'm not generally one to be an "alarmist") but we should start monitoring the mid and upper level winds going forward: Significant Chernobyl contamination only extended 1,000 miles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoMo Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 Here's NHK explaining it now: http://jibtv.com/program/fullscreen.aspx?page=0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hm8 Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 NHK translation is saying something about radiation levels are 10,000 times more then normal? Ugh. I'm sick of hearing the amount of radiation leaking out getting compared to "normal". Statements like that are almost purely to generate hype and make headlines more attractive. I'm by no means an expert and I don't know how dangerous "10,000 times more then normal" is, but neither does the rest of the general public and news stations are taking advantage of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallow Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 NHK said container and operator evac, If that's true (container breach), that sounds much more serious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallow Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 Ugh. I'm sick of hearing the amount of radiation leaking out getting compared to "normal". Statements like that are almost purely to generate hype and make headlines more attractive. I'm by no means an expert and I don't know how dangerous "10,000 times more then normal" is, but neither does the rest of the general public and news stations are taking advantage of this. Agreed. From the scraps I've gathered, "normal" is about 1 microsievert. From Wiki, you generally need about 1 sievert to start making people significantly sick. 10,000 times "normal" would be 0.01 sieverts. Getting up there, but still not "deadly" amounts of radiation by any means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoMo Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 So explosion damages suppression pool, half of the fuel rods are exposed, and they are evacuating some staff. Well, that doesn't sound good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sojitodd Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 vents were closed....batteries failed....did not allow them to open for a while....batteries were replaced....vents opened......could not pump water until pressure is reduced....when they did...water levels could not be maintained....core exposed....partially....at the very least. No 2 seems to be in big trouble. What is the status on No 1 and No 3? Did they begin to melt....sea water to flood chamber.....heat caused the gases...then explosion while venting....but chamber held as the cores were cooled.....no breach? Batteries failed. Isn't that the third thing that went wrong?- -power cut off -back up pumps tsunamied -back up batteries fail/insufficient. How many damn problems in life end up coming from failed/not enough batteries. How could they not have enough on hand? *and what is this 'explosive impact' stuff that they are babbling about on CNN now? I know there was another explosion of some time about two hours ago now....any news on it anyone? -and thanks to whomever it was that posted the aerial pic. Miss that art guy as well on this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott747 Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 Is the "suppression pool" the same as the "container"? Suppression pool is within the main containment system. I think I posted a schematic a day or so ago. Either way this may confirm a breach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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