Scott747 Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 fox news live report from japan situation under control at the Taigio(??) plant now but new trouble at Fukushima plant 2(not the plant where the reactor exploded) with three reactors that are now overheating Posted this twenty minutes ago - The Japan Atomic Power Co. says the cooling process is working at its Tokai No. 2 Nuclear Power Plant Japan Atomic Power says 2 of 3 diesel generators for the Tokai No. 2 plant are down, but the remaining generator is sufficiently cooling the reactor And there were reports much earlier this morning that they had started pumping seawater into the #2 reactor. Might be time to not look at Fox for some decent info or most of the msm outlets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janetjanet998 Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 Posted this twenty minutes ago - The Japan Atomic Power Co. says the cooling process is working at its Tokai No. 2 Nuclear Power Plant Japan Atomic Power says 2 of 3 diesel generators for the Tokai No. 2 plant are down, but the remaining generator is sufficiently cooling the reactor And there were reports much earlier this morning that they had started pumping seawater into the #2 reactor. Might be time to not look at Fox for some decent info or most of the msm outlets. the fox reporter live from Japan is listening to live local media and they reported that new info a few minutes before his report the past few hours he is reporting live from Japan at the top of the hour and is repeating new info local media is reporting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtRosen Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/03/13/larry-kudlow-human-toll-japan_n_835067.html A perfect example of what's wrong with humanity today."The human toll here looks to be much worse than the economic toll and we can be grateful for that." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott747 Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 the fox reporter live from Japan is listening to live local media and they reported that new info a few minutes before his report Is this the same reporter that said they were going to have to seal off the #1 reactor within a few hours? Because by now the cement should be already setting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janetjanet998 Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 Is this the same reporter that said they were going to have to seal off the #1 reactor within a few hours? Because by now the cement should be already setting. yes, and he said may have too ] again that is what the local media in japan is reporting and he is just repeating it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famartin Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 Partially agreed I think......it's easy to say don't build these things cuz 8.9 earthquakes might occur....the problem is they happen so rare that the cost benefit analysis to build it elsewhere may kill it......it always comes down to dollars.......no way around it...just like that other post about why wouldn't they build it higher than the 500-year or even 1000-year flood elevation......well that may also be cost prohibitive and kill it from the start......and anyway the flood height of a tsunami in no way correlates to a 500-year or 1000-year flood elevation....how do you even put a number on that for design....you can't and wouldn't......nothing would ever get built with these restrictions..... The point I was kinda trying to make is that its silly to halt nuclear construction in the US based on what a megathrust earthquake did to plants in Japan. Most of the US is not prone to megathrust earthquakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itunis Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 That's not hard to understand. Don't build nukes in areas prone to megathrust earthquakes. Agreed. I really hope this event doesn't impede the construction of nuclear power plants in less earthquake prone areas. They have an exceptional safety record (I'd rather live next door to a nuclear plant than to any fossil fuel power plant). There are plans to build two new nuclear power plants in east central Georgia and I'm worried that regulators will overreact and delay/cancel the plans. Looks like some news outlets are laying off the hype. CNN had a big banner basically saying that a meltdown isn't imminent earlier this morning, and it seems that things aren't exactly under control but the authorities are handling it so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isotherm Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 Agreed. I really hope this event doesn't impede the construction of nuclear power plants in less earthquake prone areas. They have an exceptional safety record (I'd rather live next door to a nuclear plant than to any fossil fuel power plant). There are plans to build two new nuclear power plants in east central Georgia and I'm worried that regulators will overreact and delay/cancel the plans. Looks like some news outlets are laying off the hype. CNN had a big banner basically saying that a meltdown isn't imminent earlier this morning, and it seems that things aren't exactly under control but the authorities are handling it so far. Still though, even in less earthquake prone areas, I would much rather live next to a solar or wind farm than a nuclear power plant. Yes, the risks are very low, but the risks are nil with the former two renewable energy options. With that said, I agree about the preferrence of nuclear over fossil fuels for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jburns Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 Looks like some news outlets are laying off the hype. CNN had a big banner basically saying that a meltdown isn't imminent earlier this morning, and it seems that things aren't exactly under control but the authorities are handling it so far. ABC is still screaming: Nuclear Emergency Spreads in Japan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famartin Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 Still though, even in less earthquake prone areas, I would much rather live next to a solar or wind farm than a nuclear power plant. Yes, the risks are very low, but the risks are nil with the former two renewable energy options. With that said, I agree about the preferrence of nuclear over fossil fuels for sure. Solar I can live with, but man those turbines are ugly. Not sure I want to live in a place where that's what I get to stare at all the time. Unless I can block the view with lots and lots of trees. Probably much nicer to live next to a nuke plant than a coal one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jburns Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 Solar I can live with, but man those turbines are ugly. Not sure I want to live in a place where that's what I get to stare at all the time. Unless I can block the view with lots and lots of trees. Probably much nicer to live next to a nuke plant than a coal one. Safer too. Koal Kills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chubbs Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 These plants are little like the "too big to fail" banks they impose large risks on society that are not needed. The US doesn't need any additional nuclear plants at present. We have plenty of coal, our natural gas reserves have increased substantially in past few years and wind+solar are starting to become viable. At current natural gas prices, new nuclear plant construction is not economic. The financial risk of nuclear power is much larger than alternatives.These plants cost billions and take 10 years to permit and build. US utilities are asking for federal loan guarantees to mitigate the financial risks. This incident will leave Japan short of electricity and reliant on costly substitutes. The replacement cost is multi-billion. The financial impact on Tokyo Electric the largest utility in Japan will be severe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janetjanet998 Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 BBC live report from Japan................ sea water pumping at reactor number 3, NOT working and they fear an explosion but they think the containment walls will hold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 Solar I can live with, but man those turbines are ugly. Not sure I want to live in a place where that's what I get to stare at all the time. Unless I can block the view with lots and lots of trees. Probably much nicer to live next to a nuke plant than a coal one. I want one in my yard... a 400 footer would be nice, as long as I get free electricity... whoosh whoosh! (splat now and then - bird) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePhotoGuy Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 BBC live report from Japan................ sea water pumping at reactor number 3, NOT working and they fear an explosion but they think the containment walls will hold But, I thought it was undercontrol? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indystorm Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 Solar I can live with, but man those turbines are ugly. Not sure I want to live in a place where that's what I get to stare at all the time. Unless I can block the view with lots and lots of trees. Probably much nicer to live next to a nuke plant than a coal one. We have a number of coal fired electric plants here in Indiana. Always concerns with high sulfur coal and scrubber issues. Neighboring Illinois has nuclear plants that have operated safely during my 60 year lifetime. Being at the relative center of the North American plate must help unless you have New Madrid failed rift zone issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rainstorm Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 the hype over the nuclear issue is pretty amazing. we could have 20k plus dead none due to any nuclear failure. it shouldnt be surprising at what a 9.0 earthquake can do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ice1972 Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 The point I was kinda trying to make is that its silly to halt nuclear construction in the US based on what a megathrust earthquake did to plants in Japan. Most of the US is not prone to megathrust earthquakes. Yeah I get what your saying......I guess my point was that planners should probably site these things away from earthquake prone areas period but sometimes you can't and that even if you are forced to build one close to megathrust faults so what......when your dealing with an 8.9 all bets are off......I'm waiting for the media to start asking what could have been done to stop the tsunami...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rainstorm Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 Yeah I get what your saying......I guess my point was that planners should probably site these things away from earthquake prone areas period but sometimes you can't and that even if you are forced to build one close to megathrust faults so what......when your dealing with an 8.9 all bets are off......I'm waiting for the media to start asking what could have been done to stop the tsunami...... someone on msnbc just did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jburns Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 Looks like some news outlets are laying off the hype. CNN had a big banner basically saying that a meltdown isn't imminent earlier this morning, and it seems that things aren't exactly under control but the authorities are handling it so far. Looks like the ratings race is back on. FOX Japan Fights to Prevent Multiple Nuclear Reactor Meltdowns as 180,000 Flee MSNBC Tens of thousands flee as Japan's nuclear crisis intensifies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scuddz Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 These plants are little like the "too big to fail" banks they impose large risks on society that are not needed. The US doesn't need any additional nuclear plants at present. We have plenty of coal, our natural gas reserves have increased substantially in past few years and wind+solar are starting to become viable. At current natural gas prices, new nuclear plant construction is not economic. The financial risk of nuclear power is much larger than alternatives.These plants cost billions and take 10 years to permit and build. US utilities are asking for federal loan guarantees to mitigate the financial risks. This incident will leave Japan short of electricity and reliant on costly substitutes. The replacement cost is multi-billion. The financial impact on Tokyo Electric the largest utility in Japan will be severe. STFU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtRosen Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 According to ABC News, 2 partial meltdowns have already occurred and they're fighting to make sure that the plants don't fully meltdown. The partial meltdowns occurred in reactor #1 and #3 at Fukushima. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Askew Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 Lets hope this can stay contained. Really anywhere a disaster can happen, just goes to show mother nature is all powerfull and nothing is "Fail safe" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theduke85 Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 Tomorrow we might be seeing the nuke reactors melting down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkrangers Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 Tomorrow we might be seeing the nuke reactors melting down Or maybe not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtRosen Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/14/world/asia/japan-fukushima-nuclear-reactor.html?_r=1 U.S. Detects Radiation 60 Miles From Stricken Plant WASHINGTON — As the scale of Japan’s nuclear crisis begins to come to light, experts in Japan and the United States say the country is now facing a cascade of accumulating problems that suggest that radioactive releases of steam from the crippled plants could go on for weeks or even months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkrangers Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/14/world/asia/japan-fukushima-nuclear-reactor.html?_r=1 But Pentagon officials reported Sunday that helicopters flying 60 miles from the plant picked up small amounts of radioactive particulates — still being analyzed, but presumed to include Cesium-137 and Iodine-121 — suggesting widening environmental contamination. In a country where memories of a nuclear horror of a different sort in the last days of World War II weigh heavily on the national psyche and national politics, the impact of continued venting of long-lasting radioactivity from the plants is hard to overstate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoMo Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 Kyodo just now: BREAKING NEWS: TV footage showing smoke rising from Fukushima nuke plant BREAKING NEWS: Smoke coming out of No. 3 reactor from 11:05 a.m.: Edano Sounds of explosion in #3 reactor- NHK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago Storm Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 Live shots from NHK/Japan-TV confirm white smoke coming from #3 reactor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoMo Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 BREAKING NEWS: Hydrogen blast occurs at Fukushima nuke plant's No. 3 reactor: agency BREAKING NEWS: Residents near nuke plants ordered to be inside buildings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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