Ian Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 finally a nuclear expert comes on cnn... he says lay off the hype. People run to extremes on both sides too easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janetjanet998 Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 No, this is a different reactor. Info has just hit the wires within the past 60-90 minutes or so. where r u getting your info...was it you that posted how the other PLANT is now having problems again with its reactors after everything looked under control..if so please post a link/source becuase it's not being reported anywhere else Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famartin Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 I don't know why people think I'm over reacting to anything. I'm just posting the news as it flows through. Isn't this a forum where people get excited by F-5 tornadoes, Category 5 hurricanes and 30 inch blizzards? Although I do find it somewhat fascinating, I hope NO ONE is harmed or loses their life as a result of this second nuclear meltdown in only 24 hours. Well, you have said some uninformed, exaggerated statements like this one: Originally they were going to try and vent some nuclear steam... a trace amount of it, but then they suspended that. This is NOT intentional. This is an entire reactor going boom. Clearly, that didn't happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallow Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 Nice calm head from Ga Tech, Prof. Sjoden just on CNN. Says situation is not nearly as dangerous as it is being portrayed. Says a CT scan has 100 times the radiation of what has been measured so far. Exactly. Though it's clear they're having a hard time getting things under control, so far they've been pretty successful keeping everything contained. Even if there was a partial meltdown, the containment measures they have in place seem to have been able to keep radiation from getting too extreme outside the plants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppsRunner Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 0349: CNN presenter Piers Morgan tweets: "Nuclear expert Bill Nye just said situation at Japan plants sounds 'way more serious' than authorities saying. Deeply worrying. I didn't know that Bill Nye was a nuclear expert now... I only remember his cheesy videos we watched in Elementary school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 Exactly. Though it's clear they're having a hard time getting things under control, so far they've been pretty successful keeping everything contained. Even if there was a partial meltdown, the containment measures they have in place seem to have been able to keep radiation from getting too extreme outside the plants. Yeah good point. A meltdown isn't a doomsday scenario if the containment vessel remains in tact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJHurricane Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 Nice calm head from Ga Tech, Prof. Sjoden just on CNN. Says situation is not nearly as dangerous as it is being portrayed. Says a CT scan has 100 times the radiation of what has been measured so far. I don't think whats dangerous is what has been released to this point...what is dangerous is you have potentially two partial meltdowns underway, and one of them is so serious, and the options to bring it under control are so limited...that they are flooding the reactor with seawater Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurricaneJosh Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 Wow-- I'm honestly just really confused. I feel like I just don't have a handle on this story and I don't know who to listen to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famartin Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 Well, you have said some uninformed, exaggerated statements like this one: Clearly, that didn't happen. And you also insisted that the report of the explosion being due to hydrogen wasn't true... janetjanet998, on 12 March 2011 - 01:39 AM, said: Tepco says explosion may have been hydrogen used to cool Fukushima plant - Kyodo <BR clear=all> Old news. Not true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJW155 Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 Nice calm head from Ga Tech, Prof. Sjoden just on CNN. Says situation is not nearly as dangerous as it is being portrayed. Says a CT scan has 100 times the radiation of what has been measured so far. Yea but the problem is he's going by whatever information he is being told. A friend of mine just texted me saying that Russia and Korea are preparing for evacuations. I'm looking online, but I can't find anything about that. Now, is it out of the realm of possibility that this is worse than being reported and that the Japanese government is alerting other countries w/o trying to create a panic in their own nation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtRosen Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 where r u getting your info...was it you that posted how the other PLANT is now having problems again with its reactors after everything looked under control..if so please post a link/source becuase it's not being reported anywhere else I'm getting my info from every single major media outlet in this country, in Europe and in Japan. ABC, CBS, FOX, BBC, Al Jazeera, NHK, Reuters and AP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famartin Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 Yea but the problem is he's going by whatever information he is being told. A friend of mine just texted me saying that Russia and Korea are preparing for evacuations. I'm looking online, but I can't find anything about that. Now, is it out of the realm of possibility that this is worse than being reported and that the Japanese government is alerting other countries w/o trying to create a panic in their own nation? If they were trying to keep it under wraps for now, wouldn't they tell their allies to keep it under wraps also? How would your friend know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurricaneJosh Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 You just have to be grateful you're not leading the Japanese government's communications efforts right now. What a complete nightmare it would be to try to control this sh*tstorm and keep it from spiraling out of control. Wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJW155 Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 If they were trying to keep it under wraps for now, wouldn't they tell their allies to keep it under wraps also? How would your friend know? He said it was on AP wire but I don't see anything. There's way too much info/confusion right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJW155 Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 You just have to be grateful you're not leading the Japanese government's communications efforts right now. What a complete nightmare it would be to try to control this sh*tstorm and keep it from spiraling out of control. Wow. Yea really. I'm sure they are devestated by this from an emotional standpoint. Like what do you do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoMo Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 FYI, there are lots of 'twits' on twitter. Actually receiving useful information on there that is correct is a very hard thing to do unless it comes from an official source. People make stuff up all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Askew Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 I guess when the news speak of a "hail mary" to stop this, makes me pretty nervous. If all ya have is cold seawater to throw on the fire, kinda like taking a leak on a forest fire, seems a bit out of control to me. Lets just hope something better comes along to stop it. And they have done a good job thus far in keeping it at bay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott747 Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 Per Reuters - An official at Japan's Meteorological Agency says that wind direction over the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant will be monitored as it is a key factor in judging damage to the environment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daddylonglegs Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 Couldn't they just entombed these things? Just start burying them in concrete to at least contain some of this mess? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famartin Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 Couldn't they just entombed these things? Just start burying them in concrete to at least contain some of this mess? That's a last ditch effort, even more last ditch than seawater. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott747 Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 FYI, there are lots of 'twits' on twitter. Actually receiving useful information on there that is correct is a very hard thing to do unless it comes from an official source. People make stuff up all the time. Without a doubt. I've tried to verify with a legit news source anything that's been from twitter. Or at the very least acknowledge the snippet being from twitter and to take it with a grain of salt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJHurricane Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 FYI, there are lots of 'twits' on twitter. Actually receiving useful information on there that is correct is a very hard thing to do unless it comes from an official source. People make stuff up all the time. I have used twitter to follow news stories...I have to agree if you are not plugged into whats reliable on twitter before a story gets big, you are going to have a very hard time filtering out the good info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famartin Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 Wolf Blitzer just covered the issue of confusing and conflicting information coming out of Japan. American media is waking up I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtRosen Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 FYI, there are lots of 'twits' on twitter. Actually receiving useful information on there that is correct is a very hard thing to do unless it comes from an official source. People make stuff up all the time. I'm not re-tweeting anything of significance unless it's from a journalistic source. For instance, at 10:33, this came in from ABC Breaking News: Breaking News from ABCNEWS.com: Partial Meltdown Likely Under Way at Second Reactor, Japan Government Spokesman Says [10:05 p.m.] At 10:06, FoxNews said: Japan's top government spokesman says "partial meltdown" likely under way at second reactor More headlines from FoxNews.com: http://email.foxnews.com/t?ctl=C666:A078D28068937A32A6D7850600836A18& This is a different reactor and a different meltdown than what happened last night/this morning. We have no idea how dangerous it is, or if it's a full or partial meltdown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtRosen Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 Additionally, the NYTimes: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/13/world/asia/13nuclear.html?_r=1 Japan Scrambles to Avert Meltdown at Second Crippled Nuclear Reactor TOKYO — Japanese officials took the extraordinary step on Saturday of flooding a crippled nuclear reactor with seawater in a last-ditch effort to avoid a nuclear meltdown, as the nation grappled simultaneously with its worst nuclear accident and the aftermath of its largest recorded earthquake. On Sunday, they announced that the cooling system at a second reactor in the same aging plant had failed, forcing officials to release radioactive vapor into the atmosphere. At least 210,000 people were told to evacuate the areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janetjanet998 Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 ok I can confirm what I posted about earlier. one of the reactors does indeed have MOX rods and it is indeed number 3...and 9 feet of them were exposed(a rod is 12-14 feet) But the BBC's Chris Hogg in Tokyo says the second reactor is a different type which uses MOX (plutonium plus uranium) fuel and the consequences of a problem there are potentially more severe. Quoted by Kyodo, Tepco said the tops of the MOX fuel rods were 3m above water. http://www.bbc.co.uk...acific-12724953 on a side note why would Japan have MOX rods in the first place? They are used to make nuclear weapons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famartin Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 I'm not re-tweeting anything of significance unless it's from a journalistic source. For instance, at 10:33, this came in from ABC Breaking News: Breaking News from ABCNEWS.com: Partial Meltdown Likely Under Way at Second Reactor, Japan Government Spokesman Says [10:05 p.m.] At 10:06, FoxNews said: Japan's top government spokesman says "partial meltdown" likely under way at second reactor More headlines from FoxNews.com: http://email.foxnews...6D7850600836A18& This is a different reactor and a different meltdown than what happened last night/this morning. We have no idea how dangerous it is, or if it's a full or partial meltdown. Actually, as I just highlighted, it says "partial" meltdown. So assuming they aren't hiding data, then we can assume its a partial meltdown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daddylonglegs Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 On Weekend Edition, Jon told host Linda Wertheimer that the plan to flood the core with seawater and boric acid may be unprecedented and will effectively destroy the power plant. If the plan fails and the core does meltdown, Jon said, the only thing left to do will be to "seal it up with concrete. You sort of entomb it." And it would be the containment structure that would be entombed — hopefully with any radioactive material still inside. In theory, NPR's Science Desk tells us, if there were a meltdown that destroyed the steel and ceramic around the fuel rods, the containment structure would still be able to prevent any material from being released into the environment. That was not what happened during the Chernobyl disaster because there was no such containment structure at that Soviet-era plant. At Three Mile Island in Pennsylvania, the containment structure prevented a disaster when part of the core melted during a 1979 accident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWeatherPimp Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 A few good twitter feeds: www.Twitter.com/BreakingNews www.Twitter.com/SkyNewsBreak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Rent Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 Related post: How does EST to GMT change tonight? So I can keep up with the BBC blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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