Hoosier Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 Obviously there is conflicting info floating around but let's try to keep the discussion as level headed as possible. Sensationalism/chicken little stuff doesn't help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Rent Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 Does anyone have the link for NHK World live video? I can't find it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurricaneJosh Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 Obviously there is conflicting info floating around but let's try to keep the discussion as level headed as possible. Sensationalism/chicken little stuff doesn't help. Yeah, there really are. I've never followed a major news story that was so confusing, and with so many conflicting reports over such a long period of time. It's very hard to get a grasp on what's happening, exactly. I don't think it's anyone's fault-- I think it's just the complex nature of the situation, as well as the terrific sensitivity of it. The Japanese government is having to walk a super-fine line between keeping the public informed and causing unnecessary panic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jburns Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 I doubt that any contingency planning scenario ever envisioned multiple failures of this nature at multiple reactors in multiple facilities at the same time. It has to be a massive strain on the highly specialized response personnel needed to address this. I have to agree with the analaysis that flooding a reactor with seawater means that the situation is almost totally out of control and on the knife edge of crossing into worst case scenario territory. Yeah they are pulling out all the stops for sure. Seawater doesn't appear in the list of emergency procedures most likely because it will probably render the reactor useless due to salts and chemicals in the water. Good to know they are willing to think outside the box. I wonder what it would take for a typical American company like Duke Power to purposefully trash a multi-billion dollar reactor and if they would hesitate until it was to late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 Like I said multiple times, not good fellas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janetjanet998 Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 TimeOutTokyo TimeOutTokyo RT @TheNewsBlotter: @TimeOutTokyo From Kyodo: Top of MOX fuel rods 3 meters above water at Fukushima plant: TEPCO Ok from the research i just did nuclear fuel rods are 12-14 feet long....if the above is true then 9 feet of the rods, most of them, were exposed I still can't find out what reactor uses MOX I think only one does (#3) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famartin Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 Yeah they are pulling out all the stops for sure. Seawater doesn't appear in the list of emergency procedures most likely because it will probably render the reactor useless due to salts and chemicals in the water. I would assume as much. Probably why they were saying its a "Hail Mary" or whatever it was they said... better to render it useless than risk a total meltdown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famartin Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 I have to admit, I really thought Art was overreacting last night, but I'm starting to think I'm the dumb-dumb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jburns Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 "We are assuming that a meltdown has occurred" at a quake-damaged nuclear reactor, Japan's chief Cabinet secretary says. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyChris Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 Does anyone have the link for NHK World live video? I can't find it. This one? http://jibtv.com/program/fullscreen.aspx?page=0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Rent Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 Because we care, the BBC has been told by China, all of their plants are ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 "We are assuming that a meltdown has occurred" at a quake-damaged nuclear reactor, Japan's chief Cabinet secretary says. Its obvious guys, OOC out of control, not good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janetjanet998 Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 "We are assuming that a meltdown has occurred" at a quake-damaged nuclear reactor, Japan's chief Cabinet secretary says. I think thats an old qoute about metldown number one.. info is flying out so fast sometimes older info getting "looped' back in to the flow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janetjanet998 Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 This one? http://jibtv.com/pro...een.aspx?page=0 FYI sometimes that is a rerun of the 1/2 hour or hour before ...but not all the time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jburns Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 I think thats an old qoute about metldown number one.. info is flying out so fast sometimes older info getting "looped' back in to the flow Don't think so. Its breaking news on all the major sites. CNN,CBS,ABC,FOX etc. Must be a new statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Rent Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 I think thats an old qoute about metldown number one.. info is flying out so fast sometimes older info getting "looped' back in to the flow +1. I can say I would not want to share a room with a few people in this thread, during a disaster. Even if full meltdown occurs, the historical impacts we have seen is limited. We will most likely not see any widespread (if any) impacts here on mainland USA. This is a disaster for Japan, no doubt. But the level of panic coming across in some posts is not needed, and only serves as a further cloud to trying to get the most reliable information we can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jburns Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 ABC has it like this. Partial Meltdown Likely Under Way at Second Reactor, Japan Government Spokesman Says Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Askew Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 Yeah, there really are. I've never followed a major news story that was so confusing, and with so many conflicting reports over such a long period of time. It's very hard to get a grasp on what's happening, exactly. I don't think it's anyone's fault-- I think it's just the complex nature of the situation, as well as the terrific sensitivity of it. The Japanese government is having to walk a super-fine line between keeping the public informed and causing unnecessary panic. Exactly. accidnets will always happen with human nature. Lets just Pray this can somehow be brought under control. I have serious doubts but would love for this to end well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Rent Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 This one? http://jibtv.com/pro...een.aspx?page=0 Yes. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famartin Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 ABC has it like this. Partial Meltdown Likely Under Way at Second Reactor, Japan Government Spokesman Says I think that's the AP article that just hit the wires. Finally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallow Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 Yeah, there really are. I've never followed a major news story that was so confusing, and with so many conflicting reports over such a long period of time. It's very hard to get a grasp on what's happening, exactly. I don't think it's anyone's fault-- I think it's just the complex nature of the situation, as well as the terrific sensitivity of it. The Japanese government is having to walk a super-fine line between keeping the public informed and causing unnecessary panic. This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famartin Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 Exactly. accidnets will always happen with human nature. Lets just Pray this can somehow be brought under control. I have serious doubts but would love for this to end well I've been thinking it would be neat to visit Japan one day... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott747 Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 Don't think so. Its breaking news on all the major sites. CNN,CBS,ABC,FOX etc. Must be a new statement. It's what we were talking about earlier when Art posted the CNN tweet. There are two possible reactors in some phase of a meltdown. Reactor 1 which we have known about all day and the #3 reactor. The revelation of the #3 reactor came about very much like the #1 reactor when the venting process was initiated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmichweather Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 finally a nuclear expert comes on cnn... he says lay off the hype. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePhotoGuy Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 0349: CNN presenter Piers Morgan tweets: "Nuclear expert Bill Nye just said situation at Japan plants sounds 'way more serious' than authorities saying. Deeply worrying. BBC http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12307698 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtRosen Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 I have to admit, I really thought Art was overreacting last night, but I'm starting to think I'm the dumb-dumb. I don't know why people think I'm over reacting to anything. I'm just posting the news as it flows through. Isn't this a forum where people get excited by F-5 tornadoes, Category 5 hurricanes and 30 inch blizzards? Although I do find it somewhat fascinating, I hope NO ONE is harmed or loses their life as a result of this second nuclear meltdown in only 24 hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtRosen Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 I think thats an old qoute about metldown number one.. info is flying out so fast sometimes older info getting "looped' back in to the flow No, this is a different reactor. Info has just hit the wires within the past 60-90 minutes or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janetjanet998 Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 0349: CNN presenter Piers Morgan tweets: "Nuclear expert Bill Nye just said situation at Japan plants sounds 'way more serious' than authorities saying. Deeply worrying. yet othersexpert talking heads say its worse then it appears some talking head expert last night said that these type of reactors don;t shut down all the way, they go to 10% power then slowly completly shutdown after several days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jburns Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 Nice calm head from Ga Tech, Prof. Sjoden just on CNN. Says situation is not nearly as dangerous as it is being portrayed. Says a CT scan has 100 times the radiation of what has been measured so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmichweather Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 Nice calm head from Ga Tech, Prof. Sjoden just on CNN. Says situation is not nearly as dangerous as it is being portrayed. Says a CT scan has 100 times the radiation of what has been measured so far. +1000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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