Clinch Leatherwood Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 It was reported earlier that #3 was leaking water. The suppression pool is at the bottom of the containment vessel. Whether the earlier report was wrong and it was actually #2 who knows. Kind of clear this is spiraling out of control. Poor people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 On 3/14/2011 at 11:17 PM, LakeEffectKing said: If indeed this is "the worst case scenario", (and, believe me, I'm not generally one to be an "alarmist") but we should start monitoring the mid and upper level winds going forward: Someone should run a HYSPLIT trajectory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnc Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 On 3/14/2011 at 11:18 PM, famartin said: Significant Chernobyl contamination only extended 1,000 miles. Yes but if the current northeast wind holds, doesn't that threaten Tokyo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallow Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 On 3/14/2011 at 11:22 PM, Scott747 said: Suppression pool is within the main containment system. I think I posted a schematic a day or so ago. Either way this may confirm a breach. A breach is pretty much "worst case scenario" from what I've heard. Not Chernobyl by any means, but bad news nonetheless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott747 Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 On 3/14/2011 at 11:17 PM, LakeEffectKing said: If indeed this is "the worst case scenario", (and, believe me, I'm not generally one to be an "alarmist") but we should start monitoring the mid and upper level winds going forward: The forecast was for the winds to shift towards Tokyo on Tuesday. Supposedly it was why the French were telling their citizens to bail in case of the worst case scenario. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan11295 Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 I am assuming the staff being left are the minimum needed to continue to pump water in to cool the reactors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famartin Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 On 3/14/2011 at 11:23 PM, messenger said: It was reported earlier that #3 was leaking water. The suppression pool is at the bottom of the containment vessel. Whether the earlier report was wrong and it was actually #2 who knows. Kind of clear this is spiraling out of control. Poor people Pretty sure it was number 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metalicwx366 Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 On 3/14/2011 at 11:17 PM, LakeEffectKing said: If indeed this is "the worst case scenario", (and, believe me, I'm not generally one to be an "alarmist") but we should start monitoring the mid and upper level winds going forward: What effect would that have on us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallow Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 On 3/14/2011 at 11:23 PM, johnc said: Yes but if the current northeast wind holds, doesn't that threaten Tokyo? If this ended up being as "bad" as Chernobyl, then yes, of course. But it isn't and won't be. I don't think anyone here has the expertise to determine whether Tokyo could be threatened in this case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famartin Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 On 3/14/2011 at 11:23 PM, dendrite said: Someone should run a HYSPLIT trajectory. How do you know that it wasn't already run? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkman Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 I'm actually more concerned about the operator evac. Sounds like they don't think there's anything more they can do right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoMo Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 Kyodo is reporting radiation rising in Ibaraki which is south of Fukushima. I guess the winds are blowing from the north. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LakeEffectKing Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 On 3/14/2011 at 11:18 PM, famartin said: Significant Chernobyl contamination only extended 1,000 miles. Yes, I certainly understand that....but with multiple reactors having issues (very close to each other) we MIGHT be dealing with something more significant. Again, with "explosions" taking place at nuclear facilities (which is not normal, of course, and, IMO, is an indication of a complete loss of control of the situation) it is at least prudent to start planning for a potential downstream. If I remember correctly, around Chernobyl, during the crisis, there was generally (over weeks) not strong winds to carry the contamination great distances... Again, of course, there is a certain amount of speculation....but with that, comes a certain amount of unknown.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metalicwx366 Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 What is Chernobyl? Can someone post a link cause i hear a lot of people referring to Chernobyl? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoMo Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 On 3/14/2011 at 11:28 PM, metalicwx366 said: What is Chernobyl? Can someone post a link cause i hear a lot of people referring to Chernobyl? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chernobyl_disaster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isopycnic Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 On 3/14/2011 at 11:28 PM, metalicwx366 said: What is Chernobyl? Can someone post a link cause i hear a lot of people referring to Chernobyl? It a great place to vacation, look into it ASAP! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LakeEffectKing Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 On 3/14/2011 at 11:28 PM, metalicwx366 said: What is Chernobyl? Can someone post a link cause i hear a lot of people referring to Chernobyl? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCFMDLakxaY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k*** Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 what is google? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sojitodd Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 On 3/14/2011 at 11:30 PM, Isopycnic said: It a great place to vacation, look into it ASAP! Plenty of vacancies in the apartment blocks of Pripyat too! No crowding at all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinch Leatherwood Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 On 3/14/2011 at 11:25 PM, dan11295 said: I am assuming the staff being left are the minimum needed to continue to pump water in to cool the reactors. Talk about drawing the short straw. Sounds like they've evacuated everyone but the pumping crew. Fox saying evacuation circle about to be expanded. They also removed cameras from the site... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hckyplayer8 Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 On 3/14/2011 at 11:28 PM, metalicwx366 said: What is Chernobyl? Can someone post a link cause i hear a lot of people referring to Chernobyl? The historical explosion of a reactor in the Ukraine. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chernobyl_disaster I believe they just opened the surrounding area to the public last summer. Would make a nice vacation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwt Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 On 3/14/2011 at 11:28 PM, metalicwx366 said: What is Chernobyl? Can someone post a link cause i hear a lot of people referring to Chernobyl? Put simply a big Nuclear meltdown which spread radiation out fairly far... The thing is of course with Chernobyl it was relativly out in the sticks, these reactors are so close to many areas of major populations its going to have to be watched like a hawk. Doesn't have to be as large as Chernobyl was to cause a serious problem if winds were to swing round to the right direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LovintheWhiteFluff Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 They are grilling TEPCO right now. Saying TEPCO isn't answering their questions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoMo Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 NHK has the press conference on. The press conference is nothing but apologies and they are ignoring the question on how serious this is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famartin Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 On 3/14/2011 at 11:28 PM, metalicwx366 said: What is Chernobyl? Can someone post a link cause i hear a lot of people referring to Chernobyl? Seriously? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sojitodd Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 On 3/14/2011 at 11:32 PM, kwt said: Put simply a big Nuclear meltdown which spread radiation out fairly far... The thing is of course with Chernobyl it was relativly out in the sticks, these reactors are so close to many areas of major populations its going to have to be watched like a hawk. Doesn't have to be as large as Chernobyl was to cause a serious problem if winds were to swing round to the right direction. I believe it was only about 60 miles from Kiev and it's two million plus population? They got lucky with the winds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srain Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 On 3/14/2011 at 11:30 PM, k*** said: what is google? On 3/13/2011 at 4:38 PM, metalicwx366 said: I go to google..type in long range hurricanes models... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott747 Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 The current presser is being done by TEPCO and they honestly don't know the full extent of the damage. Admit that the blast came from the main containment system and why they decided on some of the evacs. Journalists are getting really pissed off with the differing info that they keep saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSUmetstud Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 I ran a forecast trajectory using the GFS from near Fukushima over the next 120 hours...at three rather arbitrary levels...500 m, 1000 m, and 2500 m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famartin Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 On 3/14/2011 at 11:32 PM, kwt said: Put simply a big Nuclear meltdown which spread radiation out fairly far... Chernobyl was more than a meltdown, they believe (per the Wikipedia article) that there was a nuclear excursion... I'm no nuclear physicist but I think that's a very small scale, low yield nuclear explosion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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