Indystorm Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 Yes, I want to be sure we get all the verifiable facts of this situation before arriving at conclusions.. But I also remember professionals built the unsinkable Titanic and had a certain amount of hubris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 Anderson was concerned about wind direction earlier. California is downwind of Japan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago Storm Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 California is downwind of Japan Not to worry. I'm sure Kevin Martin will be alerting folks in the area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick G Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 the key thing to keep in mind is that we want our news now. it doesn't surprise me that the MSM is getting things wrong, I think in the rush to get news out, they spew everything and retract what ever doesn't stick, SO I blame us for wanting our news now, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bozart Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 the key thing to keep in mind is that we want our news now. it doesn't surprise me that the MSM is getting things wrong, I think in the rush to get news out, they spew everything and retract what ever doesn't stick, SO I blame us for wanting our news now, OTOH, when a building explodes at a nuclear plant half-a-world away, we know about it quicker than we can smell our spouse's fart from across the room. Take the good with the bad. Everybody quit bitching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rascalz Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 This one truly shows you just how high some of the waves got. Cleared 3-4 storied houses with ease. Boy did that bus get lucky @ 1.05 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZMqVTPhHzI&feature=player_embedded Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrederickWX Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 This one truly shows you just how high some of the waves got. Cleared 3-4 storied houses with ease. Boy did that bus get lucky @ 1.05 Unbelievable... every building in that valley... gone. Pretty gut wrenching stuff. I can't imagine how scared people are over there right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick G Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 most amazing thing I saw was the bus on top of a two or three story building. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ineedsnow Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 stocks are getting killed over there today!! http://www.cnbc.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aslkahuna Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 That's to be expected in a disaster of this magnitude plus the fact that Japan is right now only able to generate 75% of the electrical power needed to meet daily demand. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-X Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 That's to be expected in a disaster of this magnitude plus the fact that Japan is right now only able to generate 75% of the electrical power needed to meet daily demand. Steve Yes, I would venture to say that stocks are the among the least of their worries right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aslkahuna Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 Yes, I would venture to say that stocks are the among the least of their worries right now. Not necessarily because confidence in the Stock Market (or lack of same) governs how quickly Japan's economy will recover. In 1906, the SFO Earthquake and the huge losses (for 1906) there and the shutdown of the Pacific Stock Exchange were factors in the Depression of 1907 in the US. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-X Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 Not necessarily because confidence in the Stock Market (or lack of same) governs how quickly Japan's economy will recover. In 1906, the SFO Earthquake and the huge losses (for 1906) there and the shutdown of the Pacific Stock Exchange were factors in the Depression of 1907 in the US. Steve I agree Steve, but I think most there are probably worried more about the loss of life. It looks like that will be into the five figure range. But economic issues could easily be a huge hindrance to recovery efforts-- especially since Japan relies so much on nuclear power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaggy Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 Wonder how many people that might have been saved have passed away due to the exposure to the freezing temps. If someone has been trapped for 3 days and the temps been getting down into the low 30's at night then they don't stand much of a chance. My guess is if they haven't been rescued by now they are likely dead. The images of that tsunami is incredible. Wonder what the official height on it will be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patrick05 Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 Wonder how many people that might have been saved have passed away due to the exposure to the freezing temps. If someone has been trapped for 3 days and the temps been getting down into the low 30's at night then they don't stand much of a chance. My guess is if they haven't been rescued by now they are likely dead. The images of that tsunami is incredible. Wonder what the official height on it will be? there were 3 elderly that were stuck on a car and were saved just today... also a man was swept away miles into the ocean and was saved alive as well so it's not that impossible... of course it all depends on their location and if they have any injuries whatsoever... but you're right, time is very critical for these rescuers no matter what... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phlwx Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 I'm just going to watch. I have no clue how any of this works. All I know is the reports on this are going to be sketchy. I mean, unless anderson cooper decides he should repel down into the reactor core to have a look I am skeptical. That's about where I am with this...as some have said in the rush to "break" news first a lot of the early reports end up being offbase to varying degrees...not to mention the punditry and the need to have "experts" throw their two cents in when some are arguably more clueless than the news reports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaculaWeather Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 From NHK: The Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency says a reactor at a power plant in quake-hit Fukushima Prefecture has lost all its cooling capability. The agency said on Monday that Tokyo Electric Power Company notified the agency of an emergency at the Number Two reactor at its Fukushima Number One power station. This is the second emergency notice for the reactor. The utility firm told the agency shortly after the quake on Friday that the reactor's emergency cooling power system had failed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaculaWeather Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 And this from NHK: The ground sunk by up to 75 centimeters along coastal areas of Iwate and Fukushima prefectures after the quake, and seawalls sustained extensive damage. The agency says these areas are now more vulnerable. Monday, March 14, 2011 11:04 +0900 (JST) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mappy Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 From NHK: The Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency says a reactor at a power plant in quake-hit Fukushima Prefecture has lost all its cooling capability. The agency said on Monday that Tokyo Electric Power Company notified the agency of an emergency at the Number Two reactor at its Fukushima Number One power station. This is the second emergency notice for the reactor. The utility firm told the agency shortly after the quake on Friday that the reactor's emergency cooling power system had failed. FYI - There is a thread for the nuclear stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazey Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=a7c_1299966047 Some impressive ground level videos starting to make there way on the web now. I'm sure there will be many more to come. That's depending on whether the person shooting the footage lived. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwt Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 Some of the aftershocks at the moment going on are hardly small fry either, had a 6+ just a few hours ago which in its own right is pretty big, yet alone to a country that has just been shook as badly as it has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Windcredible! Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 Sorry if this one has been posted...haven't been following the thread too closely...but this is one scary 1st person video of the Tsunami. Kind of seems like an ordinary flash flood...but after the 3:30 mark things really get insane. http://gizmodo.com/#!5781566/this-is-the-scariest-first+person-video-of-the-japan-tsunami-yet I always considered a major earthquake to be the natural disaster I feared most...after that video, Tsunami easily takes first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Windcredible! Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 One of my brother's best friends is in Koriyama, kind of between Tokyo and Sendai...looks like maybe 30 miles inland from the nuclear plant. He's made a few Facebook updates...says its been incredibly difficult keeping facts straight over there as there are a lot of rumors and alarmist e-mails/texts circulating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPPYVALLEY Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 Sorry if this one has been posted...haven't been following the thread too closely...but this is one scary 1st person video of the Tsunami. Kind of seems like an ordinary flash flood...but after the 3:30 mark things really get insane. http://gizmodo.com/#...pan-tsunami-yet I always considered a major earthquake to be the natural disaster I feared most...after that video, Tsunami easily takes first place. Yeah, having grown up in Cambridge I can't help but imagine what kind of destruction that would have brought to Boston which is basically built on reclaimed wetlands. Crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tullioz Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 One of my brother's best friends is in Koriyama, kind of between Tokyo and Sendai...looks like maybe 30 miles inland from the nuclear plant. He's made a few Facebook updates...says its been incredibly difficult keeping facts straight over there as there are a lot of rumors and alarmist e-mails/texts circulating. I was just on skype with an associate in the Philippines and he was telling me that there have been several texts today about the nuclear situation in Japan. One had stated that there had been an explosion and radiation would spread to the Philippines within 24 hours and stated that everyone should stay inside and avoid the rain as it would cause severe burns to the skin. He said many parents went to the schools to pick up their children early. So the spread of misinformation is very widespread in Asia. I can see how in some of the less developed nations this could cause some to panic when it is not warranted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
09-10 analogy Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 Wonder how many people that might have been saved have passed away due to the exposure to the freezing temps. If someone has been trapped for 3 days and the temps been getting down into the low 30's at night then they don't stand much of a chance. My guess is if they haven't been rescued by now they are likely dead. The images of that tsunami is incredible. Wonder what the official height on it will be? Unfortunately it's forecast to get even colder this week, with lows in the low 20s in Kesennuma along with a chance for frozen precip. That's a bit colder than normal. Lots of shelters are evidently running out of heating fuel. http://weather.weatherbug.com/Japan/Kesennuma-weather/local-forecast/7-day-forecast.html?zcode=z6286 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ApacheTrout Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 With the reported 4" axis shift, would this affect circulation patterns in any way? And if so, do the global models need to be modified? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxUSAF Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 With the reported 4" axis shift, would this affect circulation patterns in any way? And if so, do the global models need to be modified? No and no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePhotoGuy Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 1611: Another four aftershocks in quick succession, measuring 5.1 and 5.2 magnitude, have again rattled the north-east coast of Japan, the US Geological Survey reports. BBC http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12307698 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ApacheTrout Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 No and no. Thanks. I didn't think so, but thought I'd ask anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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