jburns Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 CNN had a geologist on about a hour ago. He explained tsunamis and displacement. The guy they had on immediately before him trying to explain it with computer generated animation was horrible. I saw that. LOL he had Japan floating on top of the ocean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyewall Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 http://www.youtube.c...h?v=vTwnxVIlWss Incredibly dramatic and full length footage of the tsunami that CNN keeps playing parts of. From about 5:00 into the video to the end at 15:00 just watch the roads, fields, and tops of buildings. People are everywhere in cars, running on foot, and on roof tops. They probably figured they were far enough inland. Just awful. The hardest part was seeing that truck just before 7 minutes in turn around just before he got to a road where he might have escaped. He didn't realize he was driving back right toward the other part the wave coming in. The video cuts just before he is obviously taken by the water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PottercountyWXobserver Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 I saw that. LOL he had Japan floating on top of the ocean. really? I find it rather interesting this earthquake is now top 5 biggest. I'v researched the major earthquake interval theory and it has a lot of sense to it, the law of averages FTW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PottercountyWXobserver Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 The hardest part was seeing that truck just before 7 minutes in turn around just before he got to a road where he might have escaped. He didn't realize he was driving back right toward the other part the wave coming in. The video cuts just before he is obviously taken by the water. I'm very thankful the staff of that Japanese news station was very considerate for that, nobody wants to see live devastation when it comes to one's life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janetjanet998 Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 I'm very thankful the staff of that Japanese news station was very considerate for that, nobody wants to see live devastation when it comes to one's life. I'm not sure if that was the case when it was actually live in real time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PottercountyWXobserver Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 I'm not sure if that was the case when it was live I don't know, I hope the purpose of the live footage was to capture the raw power of nature for future studies, not for live death film. I think in this case it was impossible to avoid footage where people were obviously dying but they tried to cut out, in the case of the truck getting wiped out. I guess this is why I never understood the passion for filming live tornados devestating lives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Rent Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 I'm not sure if that was the case when it was actually live in real time. I think they cut away in real time, at least the American networks did. I belive I saw that footage first run on Fox last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Gossage Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 I don't know, I hope the purpose of the live footage was to capture the raw power of nature for future studies, not for live death film. I think in this case it was impossible to avoid footage where people were obviously dying but they tried to cut out, in the case of the truck getting wiped out. Honestly, while some of the reasoning behind the live footage of the waves inundating the villages was to capture the power of what was going on.... in the case of at least the local media agencies... I'm pretty sure some of the reasoning was also to get people watching the broadcasts to take the threat seriously, in the same manner that media outlets here in the U.S. show live chaser video or skycam footage of tornadoes to get people to take action by confirming the threat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famartin Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 The Pacific Tsunami Warning Center is under NOAA and was under NWS and it's predecessors back to when it was established after the 1946 Tsunami in HI. Steve That makes sense since tsunamis are oceans and NOAA is National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration. The USGS is the main "go-to" people for regular earthquakes. I guess Japan has no equivalent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famartin Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 I'm not sure if that was the case when it was actually live in real time. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTwnxVIlWss This video was recorded live as far as I know (and already posted in this thread) and if you pay attention, you can see that they definitely were trying to avoid showing the actual deaths of people trying to escape in vehicles. They either veered the camera away or switched shots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTwnxVIlWss This video was recorded live as far as I know (and already posted in this thread) and if you pay attention, you can see that they definitely were trying to avoid showing the actual deaths of people trying to escape in vehicles. They either veered the camera away or switched shots. Agreed. Where it was obvious someone was about to get engulfed, they moved the shot or avoided it all together. Obviously they probably weren't able to avoid all of them, but in the clear instances where a moving vehicle was about to get overcome, we didn't see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Lizard Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Quakes/usc0001zv3.php 6.8 aftershock about 5 hours ago, I wonder what the threshold is for a possible second significant tsunami events Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtRosen Posted March 12, 2011 Author Share Posted March 12, 2011 Of course, the "weather expert" the used to explain the Pacific ring of fire was none other than Sam Champion... Is he even a met? Isn't he just a TV met, not a REAL met? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PottercountyWXobserver Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 Honestly, while some of the reasoning behind the live footage of the waves inundating the villages was to capture the power of what was going on.... in the case of at least the local media agencies... I'm pretty sure some of the reasoning was also to get people watching the broadcasts to take the threat seriously, in the same manner that media outlets here in the U.S. show live chaser video or skycam footage of tornadoes to get people to take action by confirming the threat. Yeah I never had a problem showing footage of tornados ravaging the countryside destroying only trees and other natural objects, but I guess where I draw the line is showing destruction of property and life. Would you like it if people saw the death of your family conveyed to the public? Maybe Im just being overly sensitive We don't though because destruction and fear sell, because its "entertainment" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janetjanet998 Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTwnxVIlWss This video was recorded live as far as I know (and already posted in this thread) and if you pay attention, you can see that they definitely were trying to avoid showing the actual deaths of people trying to escape in vehicles. They either veered the camera away or switched shots. I was talking about how the poster said they "cut away" as in ended the broadcast , like the youtube video...but you are right they do move around, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PottercountyWXobserver Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 I was talking about how the poster said they "cut away" as in ended the broadcast , like the youtube video...but you are right they do move around, lol I should have said avoided instead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 Very surreal to see the videos and images from this catastrophic event. Really shows the force of nature at work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Rent Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 Very surreal to see the videos and images from this catastrophic event. Really shows the force of nature at work. Don't mess with mama earth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janetjanet998 Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 live on CNN(international) reporting live from sendia new tsunami warning issued for the NE coast .just told to stay away from the coast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Lizard Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 Is he even a met? Isn't he just a TV met, not a REAL met? IIRC, Sam Champion, like Crystal Eggers on TWC, hired for appearance over knowledge, has a 60 hour certificate from Miss State. Eggers has a BA in communications. (I checked) By definition, the 60 hour certificate can't be heavy in math or science, as your average BA holder didn't take much. Real basic intro to weather, and courses on standing in front of a green screen and making graphics. KPRC Channel 2 in Houston has the 60 hour wonders, and used to pay for AccuWeather services. Now the ABC affiliate , KTRH, which doesn't have degreed mets, uses AccuWeather. KHOU-TV 11 is the only Houston station with real mets. When I lived in New York, Dr. Frank was a degreed met, sent to college by the Army during the war, but he was a medical doctor. Useless trivia BTW, some degreed mets do the MSU 60 hour program, I guess to get a leg up on landing a job on TV. Mike Prangley is one, Lyndon State for a BS in met then the 60 hour MSU program. But most are BAs in communications or journalism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Rent Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 Tsunami Information (High Tide Time and Estimated Tsunami Arrival Time at each place) live on CNN(international) reporting live from sendia new tsunami warning issued for the NE coast .just told to stay away from the coast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Rent Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 Quake moved Japan coast 8 feet; shifted Earth's axis ""At this point, we know that one GPS station moved (8 feet), and we have seen a map from GSI (Geospatial Information Authority) in Japan showing the pattern of shift over a large area is consistent with about that much shift of the land mass," said Kenneth Hudnut, a geophysicist with the U.S. Geological Survey (USGS)." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janetjanet998 Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 CNN breaking explosion near nuclear plant,injuries Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tullioz Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 Doesn't sound good. Reports of a very large explosion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LovintheWhiteFluff Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 NHK warning of tsunamis....it says live. It's moving in between languages. So you need to listen for a minute. Select 128 or 256k on the right hand side for video. http://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwt Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 Wow what an amazing quake to shift the Japan coast a whole 8 foot! A mega-quake by any defition I'd say, still can't believe 2 out of the top 5 strongest quakes since 1900 have come in the last 6 years.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJHurricane Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 Doesn't sound good. Reports of a very large explosion. Video of a building in the plant exploding....could be indication of partial meltdown underway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJHurricane Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 Very disturbing disconnect of information following apparent explosion at nuclear plant...with one official claiming radiation levels have fallen while private media reporting levels rising following the explosion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxUSAF Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 Watch the tsunami ripple: http://www.youtube.com/user/NOAAPMEL?feature=mhum#p/c/3/PBZGH3yieLc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurricaneJosh Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 Here's the shake map from the USGS, showing the intensity of shaking on the modified Mercalli Scale (which goes from I-XII). According to this map, the shaking was generally strong but not violent-- and I noticed that in most of the videos, the shaking doesn't look especially severe. Like, you see stuff falling from shelves and things jiggling, but don't see furniture and large objects really getting tossed around. (If anyone has links to footage like that, let me know.) However, the shaking did last a very long time. (Part of the reason the shaking wasn't too violent on land is of course because the center was offshore.) I noticed the same thing with the tremendous Chilean quake earlier this year-- that the shaking covered a huge area and lasted long, but wasn't pushing the upper limits of the MM scale in terms of intensity, and the video footage I saw did not blow me away. The Kobe Earthquake in 1995-- a much smaller event of 6.8-- seemed to produce much more violent shaking. The videos were wild. Same with the moderate-size but very violent Northridge Earthquake in California in 1994 (another 6.7 that covered a relatively small area but produced shaking up to Level IX - Violent). This is a good illustration of how Richter magnitude does not equal the intensity of the shaking. These are two different things, although people often get them confused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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