Baroclinic Zone Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 Did you make or buy a pea tower/trellis? This is the first time we have grown peas and they are really taking off horizontally. We need to get them vertical and not sure what to use. They are in a raised bed with other veggies near them. I have not done a trellis yet. I am going to get a wire one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzucker Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 Did you make or buy a pea tower/trellis? This is the first time we have grown peas and they are really taking off horizontally. We need to get them vertical and not sure what to use. They are in a raised bed with other veggies near them. If you don't have room for a trellis, the best option, it's OK to tie a couple of individual plants to stakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 Wait til saturday, waaaaaay to hot this week. Was not planning on doing it in the heat--I'm really just concerned about having rain with it as the areas to large (and too far away from the supply) to water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 Did you make or buy a pea tower/trellis? This is the first time we have grown peas and they are really taking off horizontally. We need to get them vertical and not sure what to use. They are in a raised bed with other veggies near them. Are peas and lettuce are they only veggies up so far. Zilch on carrots, onions, spinach, cukes. My pumpkins are coming along nicely though. Almost time to do the "Sophie's Choice" and select the keepers. 79.4/57 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 Are peas and lettuce are they only veggies up so far. Zilch on carrots, onions, spinach, cukes. My pumpkins are coming along nicely though. Almost time to do the "Sophie's Choice" and select the keepers. 79.4/57 Most of the plants we put in were already started (thank you Agway) We have pumpkins, onions, tomatoes, broccoli, peas, squash of various ilk...maybe some others. We also planted some sunflowers from seed and they are growing quickly, as they tend to. How do you know when onions are ready? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
free_man Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 Not for like 2 weeks. I water them every single day. Should I try moving the cucumber plants to a bigger pot? Watering every day generally is not a good idea unless it's extreme heat and drought conditions. Plants will tell you when they're thirsty...just check the top 1" of soil, if it's cool and moist down into the root system, it's fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzucker Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 Was not planning on doing it in the heat--I'm really just concerned about having rain with it as the areas to large (and too far away from the supply) to water. It looks like showers move through with low pressure tracking over the Midwest Sunday/Monday. That might be the time. Are peas and lettuce are they only veggies up so far. Zilch on carrots, onions, spinach, cukes. My pumpkins are coming along nicely though. I have always had trouble with carrots, the seeds can be fickle in germinating when they are direct seeded. Your growing season is so far behind here...I planted my peas, lettuce, and arugula on 4/9. I already finished one bed of arugula, harvested it like 4 times, now got a second bed with lettuce and baby spinach to harvest for the salads. It sounds like you're going to have an awesome garden though, lots of nice choices. Most of the plants we put in were already started (thank you Agway) How do you know when onions are ready? They are fully mature when their tops fall over according to this page on growing onions: http://aggie-horticulture.tamu.edu/archives/parsons/publications/Onions/oniongro.html You can also look at the seed pack for an estimated time of maturity...I believe most onions are close to 100 days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzucker Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 Watering every day generally is not a good idea unless it's extreme heat and drought conditions. Plants will tell you when they're thirsty...just check the top 1" of soil, if it's cool and moist down into the root system, it's fine. Yeah, overwatering is a real problem for non-professional gardeners... That being said, I'm going to have to water my container crops every day with the forecast for 96F tomorrow and 98F Thursday. The pots lose water very quickly when it is this hot, unlike the crops in the ground where the long-term surplus in rainfall has a bigger impact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowNH Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 Zuck, is it possible to transplant cucumber plants to a bigger pot with out hurting them? I think my problem is overcrowding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzucker Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 Zuck, is it possible to transplant cucumber plants to a bigger pot with out hurting them? I think my problem is overcrowding Yes definitely...the sooner you do it the better. Main things to remember when transplanting are that it's usually better to do it in the morning/evening outside the heat of mid-day, and that you should also water immediately after you put the transplanted crop in its new soil. They should be fine though, I do this all the time with squash hills that get overcrowded, and mine are doing pretty well. Just watch them for any signs of transplant shock and give them a bit of extra care in the first couple of days...perhaps an extra watering if it's real hot, a little manure or fertilizer, get some mulch down to prevent moisture loss, etc. Transplanting isn't usually a problem, however. Just noticed two of my Early Girl tomatoes are turning a pale red, the first step in ripening. They aren't quite full size yet but are getting there. Unreal for early June, never seen this before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowNH Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 Yes definitely...the sooner you do it the better. Main things to remember when transplanting are that it's usually better to do it in the morning/evening outside the heat of mid-day, and that you should also water immediately after you put the transplanted crop in its new soil. They should be fine though, I do this all the time with squash hills that get overcrowded, and mine are doing pretty well. Just watch them for any signs of transplant shock and give them a bit of extra care in the first couple of days...perhaps an extra watering if it's real hot, a little manure or fertilizer, get some mulch down to prevent moisture loss, etc. Transplanting isn't usually a problem, however. Just noticed two of my Early Girl tomatoes are turning a pale red, the first step in ripening. They aren't quite full size yet but are getting there. Unreal for early June, never seen this before. Yeah it seems as if the rust/ mold is getting worse on my cucumber... I have like 8 plants growing in one pot... I put 2-3 seeds in one hole and.made 6 holes.. if all 3 seeds sprouted in one spot .. should I cut 2 of the plants and just leave one??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzucker Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 Yeah it seems as if the rust/ mold is getting worse on my cucumber... I have like 8 plants growing in one pot... I put 2-3 seeds in one hole and.made 6 holes.. if all 3 seeds sprouted in one spot .. should I cut 2 of the plants and just leave one??? Organic treatment I found online: cut up 2-3 garlic cloves, mash them a bit, and mix them with the water that you use for the cucumbers. This is specifically designed for rust problems; it will give the plants extra nutrients to fight the disease and will also create an unpleasant odor for animals that will detract from the risk of their getting eaten. If you can get this to work, you can avoid using copper fungicides which are not as environmentally friendly and can be hazardous to handle if not used with great care. Also, one of your main problems is that you have too many seeds in the pot! Cucumbers are large plants that sprout reliably, so you don't need to put multiple seeds in each hole. Also, given that you're growing in a container, I'd use for seeds per hill, not the recommended six, which is designed for those planting in the ground. I think you are crowding the plants a bit...this causes them to be weaker as each individual plant is deprived of nutrients and sunlight. Also, remember that you are going to need to set a trellis or stakes for the cucumbers, so you have to leave room for that apparatus. whatever you choose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowNH Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 I'm just gonna buy 3 more pots I think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted June 7, 2011 Author Share Posted June 7, 2011 Some lawns are starting to burn around the area. The dry spell the last few weeks is starting to show..May have to drag out the sprinklers if we don't get any storms this week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Torchey Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 Some lawns are starting to burn around the area. The dry spell the last few weeks is starting to show..May have to drag out the sprinklers if we don't get any storms this week not mine! emerald green, as all my lawns are, cut high, no sythetics to cause added stress to the plant, and of course as the heat increases so does the height of the blade. I am telling all my clients to water right now 1 to 2 times a week deeeeeep. I am seeing some dry soil in some gardens that are in direct sunlight > 6 hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ski MRG Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 not mine! emerald green, as all my lawns are, cut high, no sythetics to cause added stress to the plant, and of course as the heat increases so does the height of the blade. Of course I am telling all my clients to water right now 1 to 2 times a week deeeeeep. Surprised to hear there are water issues already. Everything is lush and green without any sign of stress here. All the golf courses are in tip top shape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eekuasepinniW Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 Zuck, is it possible to transplant cucumber plants to a bigger pot with out hurting them? I think my problem is overcrowding You do have too many plants in one pot, but none of the issues you're having presently are caused by overcrowding.... yet. Since they're in pots, after you transplant, just move them into the shade for two days and keep moist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowNH Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 My New and rejuvenated garden.... bought some plant ties, transplanted some plants. No more Overcrowding. I have cukes, strawberries, watermelon, zucchini, and cantaloupe . Oh and tomaters! Here are pics... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowNH Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 Sorry for the zoomed in a tilted! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eekuasepinniW Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 You drilled holes in the bottom of the green plastic storage bin for drainage, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowNH Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 You drilled holes in the bottom of the green plastic storage bin for drainage, right? Yup! 8 holes.. This is my first year.. but I'm not that stupid. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowNH Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 Is it ok just to simply tie the plant tie to the stem or is there a standard section you're supposed to tie it to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzucker Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 Is it ok just to simply tie the plant tie to the stem or is there a standard section you're supposed to tie it to? Lower down is generally better so the plant stays as one in windstorms...but for larger plants like tomatoes, I tie them a few times. Your garden looks awesome. Nice selection of plants. Your cucumbers are a bit bigger than mine, I started them all from seed in early May so they're taking their time. Looking healthy though... Early Girl tomato, 10-14 days from harvest, in my container garden: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowNH Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 Nice Tomatoes!!!... I started some cukes from seed and some from seedling. During that week that was 90 here for like 5 straight days, the seedlings shot up quick. I'm waiting for the strawberries to explode. I started cantaloupe, and some watermelon from seeds back in 2 weeks ago. the water melon and cantaloupe shot up high this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowNH Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 You don't use a tomato cage zucker? I just put my cage in today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzucker Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 Nice Tomatoes!!!... I started some cukes from seed and some from seedling. During that week that was 90 here for like 5 straight days, the seedlings shot up quick. I'm waiting for the strawberries to explode. I started cantaloupe, and some watermelon from seeds back in 2 weeks ago. the water melon and cantaloupe shot up high this week. Thanks...I have 2 big fruits on the Early Girl tomato plant, a bunch of fruits on the cherry and grape tomato plants, and then solid leaf growth on the heirlooms such as Dr. Wyche's Yellow and Moonglow, which take a bit longer to yield but are so much more delicious. My Lemon Boy hybrids, a type of delicious yellow tomato, are also doing well and have 10-15 flowers on each plant, already nearly 4 feet tall! I should have some tomatoes trickling in by the summer solstice and then a lot more by early July in terms of a steady supply. They're going to love the next three days in the 90s, especially since I just hit them with fish fertilizer, which is high in phosphorous and promotes rapid fruit development. My melons are finally starting to look decent. You don't use a tomato cage zucker? I just put my cage in today. I use it if the plants are expected to be really big....I have them up for the Lemon Boys in the main garden, as they grow to 7ft and are a nuisance without a cage considering their prolific yield of heavy fruit. For smaller tomatoes in pots, I just stake and tie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowNH Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 Thanks...I have 2 big fruits on the Early Girl tomato plant, a bunch of fruits on the cherry and grape tomato plants, and then solid leaf growth on the heirlooms such as Dr. Wyche's Yellow and Moonglow, which take a bit longer to yield but are so much more delicious. My Lemon Boy hybrids, a type of delicious yellow tomato, are also doing well and have 10-15 flowers on each plant, already nearly 4 feet tall! I should have some tomatoes trickling in by the summer solstice and then a lot more by early July in terms of a steady supply. They're going to love the next three days in the 90s, especially since I just hit them with fish fertilizer, which is high in phosphorous and promotes rapid fruit development. My melons are finally starting to look decent. I use it if the plants are expected to be really big....I have them up for the Lemon Boys in the main garden, as they grow to 7ft and are a nuisance without a cage considering their prolific yield of heavy fruit. For smaller tomatoes in pots, I just stake and tie. I just bought fish fertilizer today. Should I start using it on my plants yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzucker Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 I just bought fish fertilizer today. Should I start using it on my plants yet? I would wait...it's heavy in phosphorous which is mostly for flowering/fruiting. Here is a general guideline of the main nutrients' purpose: Nitrogen (N): important for proper leaf growth and development Phosphorous (P): responsible for increasing flowering and fruiting Potassium (K): critical for healthy root and stem development When you first start plants, you want to go heavier on the nitrogen and potassium. When they are ready to fruit, you want to cut down the nitrogen and increase phosphorous to concentrate growth in the fruits instead of the leaves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowNH Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 I would wait...it's heavy in phosphorous which is mostly for flowering/fruiting. Here is a general guideline of the main nutrients' purpose: Nitrogen (N): important for proper leaf growth and development Phosphorous (P): responsible for increasing flowering and fruiting Potassium (K): critical for healthy root and stem development When you first start plants, you want to go heavier on the nitrogen and potassium. When they are ready to fruit, you want toe l cut down the nitrogen and increase phosphorous to concentrate growth in the fruits instead of the leaves. Where can I get the Nitrogen? and how often do I use it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzucker Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 Where can I get the Nitrogen? and how often do I use it? Well manure is fine for nitrogen...it's 1-1-1 so has equal amounts of NPK. It's cheap, you can usually get a 40-lb bag for like $2 at Home Depot or Agway. Just spread it around the central stem, and it will be slowly absorbed to the roots. Chemical fertilizers like Miracle Grow also contain nitrogen....they have the bags of blue fertilizer you can throw in the watering can. Also, you can buy a Miracle Grow garden soil that's a mixture of manure, potting soil, fertilizer, and peat moss. Not a bad idea if you're not strict about organic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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