nzucker Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 Man--what fertizlier are you using? I know you have a longer growing season, but man....... I just talk a walk out back and we're still waiting for most of our seed to sprout. I think some of the peas and lettuces have broken the surface, but that's about it.. Nothing yet on cukes, carrotts, onions, cilantro, spinach....... Put in tomatoe plants, but they're not even close to blossoming yet. Kelp...it's an organic fertilizer, seaweed meal. I also use a fish fertilizer on the plants when they start to bud/flower to increase the phosphorous levels, which encourages them to put less energy in leaf growth and more into the flowers/fruits. But the growing season is definitely the biggest factor...my peas went into the containers on April 9th, and most of the tomatoes were planted around April 25th. That eggplant was bought as a transplant around May 5th....so this stuff has been in the garden a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 And not one picture of Cannabis Sativa. Someone in here has to be growing it. Probably Nate, or Pete in his hidden work spot at 2K. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzucker Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 And not one picture of Cannabis Sativa. Someone in here has to be growing it. Probably Nate, or Pete in his hidden work spot at 2K. Not all the garden is exposed to the camera. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowNH Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 Help! My cuke leaves are withering and i don't know why... Looks like maybe mold on the plants. I have 4 plants in a pretty small container. Should I try moving them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
free_man Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 Surely none of the good citizens of SNE are growing Cannibus, nevermind partaking in 420. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 Help! My cuke leaves are withering and i don't know why... Looks like maybe mold on the plants. I have 4 plants in a pretty small container. Should I try moving them? Well they have water right? Also sometimes leaves wither in the sunlight (which is natural), however make sure they have plenty of sunlight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowNH Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 Here are some pics... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowNH Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 More..What should I do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 They don't look all that bad to me. When I planted mine back in early May, they were just about dead by the time we got out of the drizzle disaster. I really thought they were gone. Now, they are going nuts. We just needed some warmer and drier wx. SO, they are probably pretty resilient. Just keep an eye on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzucker Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 More..What should I do? Have you been having wet conditions there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowNH Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 Have you been having wet conditions there? Not for like 2 weeks. I water them every single day. Should I try moving the cucumber plants to a bigger pot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzucker Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 Not for like 2 weeks. I water them every single day. Should I try moving the cucumber plants to a bigger pot? I personally think this is rust, a sign of a fungal disease. I looked up similar pictures on the Net and that's what the professional websites said as well. If you're not doing organic and this keeps spreading, one option is to try a copper fungicide, though these are pretty toxic and avoided by many gardeners. I think you should water them a bit less, and make sure the water is not hitting the leaves at all. Rust is usually caused by too much moisture. I would say watering every day is a bit excessive given your climate and the cool weather lately. That being said, the cukes don't look bad...nice plants! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 Are you sure it is bamboo? It sounds like it could be Japanese Knotweed. This stuff can grow 5" a day and has reddish/green stalks and a huge rhizome underground that gets bigger than a watermelon. I'm battling it here with sprayings of triclopyr (Garlon). This has been the most tenacious weed I've ever dealt with. That might be it--perhaps I have both. ugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowNH Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 I personally think this is rust, a sign of a fungal disease. I looked up similar pictures on the Net and that's what the professional websites said as well. If you're not doing organic and this keeps spreading, one option is to try a copper fungicide, though these are pretty toxic and avoided by many gardeners. I think you should water them a bit less, and make sure the water is not hitting the leaves at all. Rust is usually caused by too much moisture. I would say watering every day is a bit excessive given your climate and the cool weather lately. That being said, the cukes don't look bad...nice plants! Thanks Nzucker... I'll try watering them every two days. I try to make it a point for the water not to hit the leaves at all, but its really hard with plants like cukes cause their leaves are so big. In that first picture I have zuchinni and cucumbers next to eachother. I was thinking the cold weather might have something to do with it. This rust started the day after the tornado day when it was cold and windy. When it was 90 and humid they were blooming real nice! I'll make it a point to water less and just let mother nature take its course. This is my 5th and last post of the day cause of the posting limit, but do you use any fertilizer on your cukes? if so what type? Right now I have a 10-12-5 of the non liquid stuff. This is my first time growing so I had no clue! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 I personally think this is rust, a sign of a fungal disease. I looked up similar pictures on the Net and that's what the professional websites said as well. If you're not doing organic and this keeps spreading, one option is to try a copper fungicide, though these are pretty toxic and avoided by many gardeners. I think you should water them a bit less, and make sure the water is not hitting the leaves at all. Rust is usually caused by too much moisture. I would say watering every day is a bit excessive given your climate and the cool weather lately. That being said, the cukes don't look bad...nice plants! I water mine every few days....they def do not need water every day. Helps establish good roots too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 Kelp...it's an organic fertilizer, seaweed meal. I also use a fish fertilizer on the plants when they start to bud/flower to increase the phosphorous levels, which encourages them to put less energy in leaf growth and more into the flowers/fruits. But the growing season is definitely the biggest factor...my peas went into the containers on April 9th, and most of the tomatoes were planted around April 25th. That eggplant was bought as a transplant around May 5th....so this stuff has been in the garden a while. Okay--about 3 weeks or so ahead of me. Just the same, I don't see mine growing nearly as quickly to produce anything like you have in such a short time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 Are you sure it is bamboo? It sounds like it could be Japanese Knotweed. This stuff can grow 5" a day and has reddish/green stalks and a huge rhizome underground that gets bigger than a watermelon. I'm battling it here with sprayings of triclopyr (Garlon). This has been the most tenacious weed I've ever dealt with. Is the stuff you using killing the grass, too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzucker Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 Thanks Nzucker... I'll try watering them every two days. I try to make it a point for the water not to hit the leaves at all, but its really hard with plants like cukes cause their leaves are so big. In that first picture I have zuchinni and cucumbers next to eachother. I was thinking the cold weather might have something to do with it. This rust started the day after the tornado day when it was cold and windy. When it was 90 and humid they were blooming real nice! I'll make it a point to water less and just let mother nature take its course. This is my 5th and last post of the day cause of the posting limit, but do you use any fertilizer on your cukes? if so what type? Right now I have a 10-12-5 of the non liquid stuff. This is my first time growing so I had no clue! Yeah, the water is going to hit the leaves from time to time...it's inevitable. I'd just be careful now that they have rust. I think the cold weather might be a potential stress factor for the plants..if you're getting lows in the 30s you need to move the cucumbers inside a garage or cover them with a bedroom sheet or tarp. You should see some of the problems subside as the heat ridge moves in and you water less. I water most of my container gardens every 2-3 days, and they are fine. You never want the plants to completely dry out, but you will encourage slugs, mold, and rust if you water too often. This being said, I started my cucumbers from seed and they are smaller than yours, although the leaves don't have any blemishes, yet. If you have any more questions, feel free to PM me. I'd say wait another week or two, water less, and then consider copper if it's getting real bad. As for fertilizer, I use a mix of top soil and manure in all my containers. I sprinkle kelp (1-0-2) on the soil surface to help with the original leaf growth (nitrogen) and stem growth (potassium). When they start to set fruit/blossoms, I use fish fertilizer (1-2-1) to get the phosphorous up. Okay--about 3 weeks or so ahead of me. Just the same, I don't see mine growing nearly as quickly to produce anything like you have in such a short time. Kelp is a miracle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Torchey Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 Watering is pretty simple. If its raining on a regular basis, dont water. If its dry water once every 3 days, but water deep. Watering every day will breed disease and VERY poor root growth, your roots will be on the top of the soil not down deep, and remember tomatoes and herbs like it hot and fairly dry. BIGGEST issue I run into is over watering.........I make a lot of money on people that over water Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ski MRG Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 Yeah, the water is going to hit the leaves from time to time...it's inevitable. I'd just be careful now that they have rust. I think the cold weather might be a potential stress factor for the plants..if you're getting lows in the 30s you need to move the cucumbers inside a garage or cover them with a bedroom sheet or tarp. You should see some of the problems subside as the heat ridge moves in and you water less. I water most of my container gardens every 2-3 days, and they are fine. You never want the plants to completely dry out, but you will encourage slugs, mold, and rust if you water too often. This being said, I started my cucumbers from seed and they are smaller than yours, although the leaves don't have any blemishes, yet. If you have any more questions, feel free to PM me. I'd say wait another week or two, water less, and then consider copper if it's getting real bad. As for fertilizer, I use a mix of top soil and manure in all my containers. I sprinkle kelp (1-0-2) on the soil surface to help with the original leaf growth (nitrogen) and stem growth (potassium). When they start to set fruit/blossoms, I use fish fertilizer (1-2-1) to get the phosphorous up. Kelp is a miracle. I can't believe you are helping to deplete the world's oceans of kelp, a vital and necessary component in the ecosystem. Shame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzucker Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 I can't believe you are helping to deplete the world's oceans of kelp, a vital and necessary component in the ecosystem. Shame. It's farmed dude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ski MRG Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 It's farmed dude. I'm kidding Nate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzucker Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 I'm kidding Nate. LOL I know.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eekuasepinniW Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 More..What should I do? You might regret planting cukes in a container. I personally wouldn't try them in anything less than a full size half whiskey barrel unless you want to be watering twice a day once the vines near maturity. Big vines with big leaves = tremendous watering needs = feast or famine syndrome = difficulty maintaining even soil fertility = stressed plants = unreliable fruit set = higher risk of disease/pests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastBayWx Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 Is the stuff you using killing the grass, too? Mine is growing on a hillside that doesn't have grass on it, so I can't comment, but suspect it would kill grass. It might be worth killing the grass anyhow if you do have Japanese Knotweed, otherwise some of the websites say it takes 10-20 years to get rid of it. I have waged battle on this stuff, and it seems to be winning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Torchey Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 Gardens are on crack at the hacienda this year, good snow cover, ash from the pit and fire place, and some coffee grinds really made my beds super happy. Going to take some pics of my clients gardens later this week, some truly epic stuff. Viva la summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 Not sure if organic foertilzier requires a wet lawn either before/after application. But--assuming it does, what day would be the best time to do this in anticipation of getting some rain to do the trick? Can't risk a 'no show' on the rain as size of area does not allow sprinker/hoses to be effective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Torchey Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 Not sure if organic foertilzier requires a wet lawn either before/after application. But--assuming it does, what day would be the best time to do this in anticipation of getting some rain to do the trick? Can't risk a 'no show' on the rain as size of area does not allow sprinker/hoses to be effective. Wait til saturday, waaaaaay to hot this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 Tomatoes and Peas coming along nicely. They've grown considerably in the 2-1/2 weeks since I bought them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 Tomatoes and Peas coming along nicely. They've grown considerably in the 2-1/2 weeks since I bought them. Did you make or buy a pea tower/trellis? This is the first time we have grown peas and they are really taking off horizontally. We need to get them vertical and not sure what to use. They are in a raised bed with other veggies near them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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