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Yeah, but the quality of this February/March is definitely detracting from the character of the overall winter. Sad to see such an historic year end in a bland manner. I think my grade is down to A-, very disappointed with how the pattern broke down after the January 27th MECS.

GFS looks warm until blocking returns March 23rd or so, the period that JB and HM seem to be highlighting for colder temperatures in the East and a potential late season snowfall.

Exactly what happened down in your area in '60-'61.

Up here we got a couple late season events including a decent one in April. I'm hoping for that this year but won't be on the edge of my seat given the recent drought of late season storms. We'll break it when we break it.

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Exactly what happened down in your area in '60-'61.

Up here we got a couple late season events including a decent one in April. I'm hoping for that this year but won't be on the edge of my seat given the recent drought of late season storms. We'll break it when we break it.

HM highlighted the period around April 5-10 so we have some hope for that time period, which has had a bit of a spike for late season activity. It's sad to see the season tail off like that, but it probably should have happened sooner.

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Exactly what happened down in your area in '60-'61.

Up here we got a couple late season events including a decent one in April. I'm hoping for that this year but won't be on the edge of my seat given the recent drought of late season storms. We'll break it when we break it.

Yes, 60-61 was a tale of two winters...it was extremely cold and active through the HECS on February 4th, and then the pattern broke down seriously with little snowfall and mild temperatures for the rest of the winter. However, 60-61 mustered 90" rather than the 66" I've measured this year in my backyard, with each storm being a much heavier hitter. The main difference in seasonal snowfall was the 24" that fell on February 4th, the concluding storm of that epic streak. Dobbs Ferry had three snowstorms over 18" that year, a record that may never be broken; Westchester was very lucky to get into the good banding in the January 1961 Kennedy Inauguration storm, which dumped only around 10" in Central Park. Snow depth reached a maximum of 32" at the Dobbs Ferry co-op after the brutal cold of late January 1961 and the February blizzard.

Long Island after the February 1961 HECS (courtesy NorthShoreWx):

BTW, I'm not totally giving up hope on a late-season event given the GFS ENS are showing a severe -NAO pattern in the long range, but it's obviously unlikely to get any more snow down here in late March. It would be close to a miracle at this point to see another significant snowfall with the mild conditions expected this week. I think the vort moving through the Mid-Atlantic tomorrow might have been our last great hope, and it was a failure.

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Possible wet snow hit Tuesday Night/Wednesday is alive on the NAM. It eventually pops a low over SNE ..keeps it near or under 0C 850 from here to LEB..

Looks good for the higher elevations. Maybe a wet snow thump here at 32-33F. I wish it would come through overnight instead of midday.

edit...looking again the NAM is toasty at 925mb my way. Hopefully that's wrong.

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Yes, 60-61 was a tale of two winters...it was extremely cold and active through the HECS on February 4th, and then the pattern broke down seriously with little snowfall and mild temperatures for the rest of the winter. However, 60-61 mustered 90" rather than the 66" I've measured this year in my backyard, with each storm being a much heavier hitter. The main difference in seasonal snowfall was the 24" that fell on February 4th, the concluding storm of that epic streak. Dobbs Ferry had three snowstorms over 18" that year, a record that may never be broken; Westchester was very lucky to get into the good banding in the January 1961 Kennedy Inauguration storm, which dumped only around 10" in Central Park. Snow depth reached a maximum of 32" at the Dobbs Ferry co-op after the brutal cold of late January 1961 and the February blizzard.

Long Island after the February 1961 HECS (courtesy NorthShoreWx):

BTW, I'm not totally giving up hope on a late-season event given the GFS ENS are showing a severe -NAO pattern in the long range, but it's obviously unlikely to get any more snow down here in late March. It would be close to a miracle at this point to see another significant snowfall with the mild conditions expected this week. I think the vort moving through the Mid-Atlantic tomorrow might have been our last great hope, and it was a failure.

WOW.....Not sure MBY has ever pulled off such a feat in a given season.

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WOW.....Not sure MBY has ever pulled off that feat in a season.

I can't even think of a year that had two 18"+ events here, nonetheless three. You might have had two 18" events in 96-97, however.

Here were the snowfalls:

12/12/1960: 19.1"

01/20/1961: 18.3"

02/04/1961: 22.2"

Measured at no elevation downtown. Unreal. I can't imagine this will ever happen again. I had three 12"+ events this winter and found that remarkable, but to have 3 HECS in one season...

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I can't even think of a year that had two 18"+ events here, nonetheless three. You might have had two 18" events in 96-97, however.

Here were the snowfalls:

12/12/1960: 19.1"

01/20/1961: 18.3"

02/04/1961: 22.2"

Measured at no elevation downtown. Unreal. I can't imagine this will ever happen again. I had three 12"+ events this winter and found that remarkable, but to have 3 HECS in one season...

I didn't....Will did.

I had two in 77-78 and 68-69

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Congrats low elevations and coastal plain Thusday and Friday with 60-65 and sun

Thanks Kev, should be a fantastic spring week, and its only 3/14, all that bs talk about drizzle and 40 blah blah blah was nonsense, its already been a spectacular March, well above normal. Hopefully your ice melts off the lawn this week so you can start doing some yardwork and enjoying the outdoors, limited mud season for you up there (hopefully).

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Prob the last flakes of the year. Sad.

I hope not, but it's quite possible that my specific locale may not even see measurable snow this month. That makes me want to vomit. Even last year I had like 0.5" I think. Logan had 0.2" from a renegade snow squall on the 2nd this year, but I missed it. I hope I can squeeze out an inch or two towards the end of the month, but I'm not optimistic. Quite disappointing.

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I hope not, but it's quite possible that my specific locale may not even see measurable snow this month. That makes me want to vomit. Even last year I had like 0.5" I think. Logan had 0.2" from a renegade snow squall on the 2nd this year, but I missed it. I hope I can squeeze out an inch or two towards the end of the month, but I'm not optimistic. Quite disappointing.

Looks like some tiny wet flakes coming down in Windsor currently

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Prob the last flakes of the year. Sad.

You really don't think you'll see any more snow? At the very least you know there'll be a one-day cold shot sometime in April that brings blustery snow showers... I have no doubt you see flakes again. Accumulating snow is another story.

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