CoastalWx Posted November 28, 2010 Share Posted November 28, 2010 Why wouldn't it work out? Well, if it does develop too far east we won't see much. I'm just saying if it doesn't work out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted November 28, 2010 Share Posted November 28, 2010 Well, if it does develop too far east we won't see much. I'm just saying if it doesn't work out. Nah we should be good..even if it's only a couple inches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 28, 2010 Share Posted November 28, 2010 Nah we should be good..even if it's only a couple inches I'm still optimistic for it..even if a few inches, but always looking ahead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mahk_webstah Posted November 28, 2010 Share Posted November 28, 2010 Nah, out to sea. Well what do you think is going to happen? Aren't you thinking bad Pacific=lakes cutters? Wasn't that your forecast yesterday? Now the Euro is suppressing south and east? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropopause_Fold Posted November 28, 2010 Share Posted November 28, 2010 I'm still optimistic for it..even if a few inches, but always looking ahead. feel pretty good about it at this point. we'll see how it goes (wish we could fast forward a bit) but i do like the look right now. certainly appears that a nice dump of cold is coming too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 28, 2010 Share Posted November 28, 2010 feel pretty good about it at this point. we'll see how it goes (wish we could fast forward a bit) but i do like the look right now. certainly appears that a nice dump of cold is coming too. Yeah, no real complaints this far out. It looks cold following it. The EC ensemble precip probs look good for the Cape, and actually are relatively high being so far out, for the 9th. I'd rather have the models show a solution like what we're seeing at this time frame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted November 28, 2010 Share Posted November 28, 2010 The Euro looks like it will be quite cold in the long-range with lots of potential for snow threats. Euro almost looks perfect really. Nice ridging building into the west coast well up into western Canada and into the arctic and with a nice -NAO block and some pretty decent cold built up it just starts to pipeline down here into the Northeast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted November 28, 2010 Share Posted November 28, 2010 Here comes a chair tipper from Tippy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted November 28, 2010 Share Posted November 28, 2010 From what I see, I think ENE is better situatted than WNE for snow, at least earlier on. MBY ftl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ski MRG Posted November 28, 2010 Author Share Posted November 28, 2010 From what I see, I think ENE is better situatted than WNE for snow, at least earlier on. MBY ftl Right where we want to be a this juncture. Once the NW trend commences we'll be sitting in the right spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted November 28, 2010 Share Posted November 28, 2010 Is this the new thread for generalized Meteorological discussion, debate and insults ? Model of choice last 12 hours: ECMWF ....Although I give props to the GFS for at least attempting to back off on that Day After Tomorrow deal. Everything I said in that long-winded diatribe yesterday morning ...upon further review could have been summed up with one sentence: "The ECM's idea of just having a long wave axis versus a wound up historical 5 day terror like the GFS was and is the physically more plausible solution" ...I guess the point of all that was to discuss and describe the theoretical reasoning why... That said, the 00z Euro does 2 things that I like (...the 2nd on that list is a dubious liking...), and that is 1), it indeed spares us the absurdness of those previous GFS delusions of historic grandeur, but 2, takes you to school and exemplifies (teaches) us first hand (another discussion that I leveled last week regarding...) why -NAO's do not necessarily meaning snow. Read it and weep ladies - the ECM suppresses the storm track too far SE for us to cash in on a certain to be cold pattern, by hooking identifiably modeled systems in that flow off shore. That is 'too much -NAO' incarnate and a direct demonstration of why the -NAO mode its self is often a snow lovers duped over false dream. In fact, it is akin to being platonically in obsessive love and physical desire for the same b**ch for 7 years ...only to have her ...oh, wait, sorry - different story. Anyway, the better hope of bigger storm in this will be when the NAO relaxes - if and when. Now, this is by no means a personal declaration that it won't storm, so please don't wallow in freakish misery for having no hope or sense of internalized merriment and transcendent mirth - grousing will only anger the NAO beast and then it will really lube up the torture rod. Probably some 12 days from now there will be a storm as an estimate, but I suspect the NAO will be in a pulse relaxation interval then and the medium will respond to that indigestion by belching out synoptic scale p-type migraine that thankfully being above the 40th parallel we'll be sitting pretty for. What you have to do is do like I, embrace the boring cold... Here, I am about to set out for 18 holes of Disk Golf with my buddy T-Bone in 24F cold... The upshot will seeing the ponds icing over - I'm just steeped enough in nerdliness to want to monitor minutia like that ... Later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropopause_Fold Posted November 28, 2010 Share Posted November 28, 2010 Yeah, no real complaints this far out. It looks cold following it. The EC ensemble precip probs look good for the Cape, and actually are relatively high being so far out, for the 9th. I'd rather have the models show a solution like what we're seeing at this time frame. interesting turn of events given the suicide watch that was issued 4 days ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropopause_Fold Posted November 28, 2010 Share Posted November 28, 2010 Is this the new thread for generalized Meteorological discussion, debate and insults ? Model of choice last 12 hours: ECMWF ....Although I give props to the GFS for at least attempting to back off on that Day After Tomorrow deal. Everything I said in that long-winded diatribe yesterday morning ...upon further review could have been summed up with one sentence: "The ECM's idea of just having a long wave axis versus a wound up historical 5 day terror like the GFS was and is the physically more plausible solution" ...I guess the point of all that was to discuss and describe the theoretical reasoning why... That said, the 00z Euro does 2 things that I like (...the 2nd on that list is a dubious liking...), and that is 1), it indeed spares us the absurdness of those previous GFS delusions of historic grandeur, but 2, takes you to school and teaches you first hand another discussion that I leveled last week regarding -NAO's not necessarily meaning snow. Read it and weep ladies - the ECM suppresses the storm track too far SE for us to cash in on a certain to be cold pattern, by hooking identifiably modeled system in that flow off shore. That is 'too much -NAO' incarnate and a direct demonstration of why the -NAO mode its self is a snow lovers duped over false dream. In fact, it is akin to being platonically in obsessive love and physical desire for the same b**ch for 7 years ...only to have her ...oh, wait, sorry - different story. Anyway, the better hope of bigger storm in this will be when the NAO relaxes - if and when. Now, this is by no means a personal declaration that it won't storm, so please don't wallow in freakish misery for having no hope or sense of internalized merriment and transcendent mirth - grousing will only anger the NAO beast and then it will really lube up the torture rod. Probably some 12 days from now there will be a storm as an estimate, but I suspect the NAO will be in a pulse relaxation interval then and the medium will respond to that indigestion by belching out synoptic scale p-type migraine that thankfully being above the 40th parallel we'll be sitting pretty for. What you have to do is do like I, embrace the boring cold... Here, I am about to set out for 18 holes of Disk Golf with my buddy T-Bone in 24F cold... The upshot will seeing the ponds icing over - I'm just steeped enough in nerdliness to want to monitor minutia like that ... Later. of the year nomination. probably honorable mention behind cpickles. LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 28, 2010 Share Posted November 28, 2010 Is this the new thread for generalized Meteorological discussion, debate and insults ? Model of choice last 12 hours: ECMWF ....Although I give props to the GFS for at least attempting to back off on that Day After Tomorrow deal. Everything I said in that long-winded diatribe yesterday morning ...upon further review could have been summed up with one sentence: "The ECM's idea of just having a long wave axis versus a wound up historical 5 day terror like the GFS was and is the physically more plausible solution" ...I guess the point of all that was to discuss and describe the theoretical reasoning why... That said, the 00z Euro does 2 things that I like (...the 2nd on that list is a dubious liking...), and that is 1), it indeed spares us the absurdness of those previous GFS delusions of historic grandeur, but 2, takes you to school and exemplifies (teaches) us first hand (another discussion that I leveled last week regarding...) why -NAO's do not necessarily meaning snow. Read it and weep ladies - the ECM suppresses the storm track too far SE for us to cash in on a certain to be cold pattern, by hooking identifiably modeled system in that flow off shore. That is 'too much -NAO' incarnate and a direct demonstration of why the -NAO mode its self is a snow lovers duped over false dream. In fact, it is akin to being platonically in obsessive love and physical desire for the same b**ch for 7 years ...only to have her ...oh, wait, sorry - different story. Anyway, the better hope of bigger storm in this will be when the NAO relaxes - if and when. Now, this is by no means a personal declaration that it won't storm, so please don't wallow in freakish misery for having no hope or sense of internalized merriment and transcendent mirth - grousing will only anger the NAO beast and then it will really lube up the torture rod. Probably some 12 days from now there will be a storm as an estimate, but I suspect the NAO will be in a pulse relaxation interval then and the medium will respond to that indigestion by belching out synoptic scale p-type migraine that thankfully being above the 40th parallel we'll be sitting pretty for. What you have to do is do like I, embrace the boring cold... Here, I am about to set out for 18 holes of Disk Golf with my buddy T-Bone in 24F cold... The upshot will seeing the ponds icing over - I'm just steeped enough in nerdliness to want to monitor minutia like that ... Later. The potential storm progged around 12/9 looks to be when the NAO relaxes...following whatever happens on the 5th. While I agree it can be too much of a good thing sometimes, it is doing its job to prevent low pressure riding through Buffalo. With the continuous troughing that has happened and may continue to happen over the southwest, I'll take that block to our northeast. There will always be lows in the winter that move south of sne, during the winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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moneypitmike Posted November 28, 2010 Share Posted November 28, 2010 Is this the new thread for generalized Meteorological discussion, debate and insults ? Model of choice last 12 hours: ECMWF ....Although I give props to the GFS for at least attempting to back off on that Day After Tomorrow deal. Everything I said in that long-winded diatribe yesterday morning ...upon further review could have been summed up with one sentence: "The ECM's idea of just having a long wave axis versus a wound up historical 5 day terror like the GFS was and is the physically more plausible solution" ...I guess the point of all that was to discuss and describe the theoretical reasoning why... That said, the 00z Euro does 2 things that I like (...the 2nd on that list is a dubious liking...), and that is 1), it indeed spares us the absurdness of those previous GFS delusions of historic grandeur, but 2, takes you to school and exemplifies (teaches) us first hand (another discussion that I leveled last week regarding...) why -NAO's do not necessarily meaning snow. Read it and weep ladies - the ECM suppresses the storm track too far SE for us to cash in on a certain to be cold pattern, by hooking identifiably modeled systems in that flow off shore. That is 'too much -NAO' incarnate and a direct demonstration of why the -NAO mode its self is often a snow lovers duped over false dream. In fact, it is akin to being platonically in obsessive love and physical desire for the same b**ch for 7 years ...only to have her ...oh, wait, sorry - different story. Anyway, the better hope of bigger storm in this will be when the NAO relaxes - if and when. Now, this is by no means a personal declaration that it won't storm, so please don't wallow in freakish misery for having no hope or sense of internalized merriment and transcendent mirth - grousing will only anger the NAO beast and then it will really lube up the torture rod. Probably some 12 days from now there will be a storm as an estimate, but I suspect the NAO will be in a pulse relaxation interval then and the medium will respond to that indigestion by belching out synoptic scale p-type migraine that thankfully being above the 40th parallel we'll be sitting pretty for. What you have to do is do like I, embrace the boring cold... Here, I am about to set out for 18 holes of Disk Golf with my buddy T-Bone in 24F cold... The upshot will seeing the ponds icing over - I'm just steeped enough in nerdliness to want to monitor minutia like that ... Later. That's one helluva way to ruin a Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted November 28, 2010 Share Posted November 28, 2010 Just caught a word from Huff that Jack (from Storm Vista) has died. He got this through Matt Lanza via FB. Also in OT now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaineJayhawk Posted November 28, 2010 Share Posted November 28, 2010 Mike - I'm happy where modeling is with this storm today. Keep an eye on trends ... highly highly doubtful it winds up as currently depicted by 6z GFS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaineJayhawk Posted November 28, 2010 Share Posted November 28, 2010 I haven't checked, but I imagine the WFI in the MA subforum has skyrocketed this morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted November 28, 2010 Share Posted November 28, 2010 DT let out a woof for the 9-10th with one caveat based on the 00z Euro, the PAC jet has to relax as modeled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bostonseminole Posted November 28, 2010 Share Posted November 28, 2010 What am I missing on the 06z run? The thing I saw was the dream of someone who wants to skate on a snow-free lake. As I said in my earlier post, I was probalby reading it wrong. But, tell me what/when you're looking at on the 06 run so I can be better informed. Thanks. yeah, hoping for a better runs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted November 28, 2010 Share Posted November 28, 2010 I wouldn't really worry too much what 6z or 18z models runs show at this stage of the game As long as 0z/12z runs continue to show positive signals that's all we can be happy about right now and then as we get much closer than start worrying about details and such. Both GFS/Euro show a potentially good pattern and that's all we want to at least see right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 28, 2010 Share Posted November 28, 2010 DT let out a woof for the 9-10th with one caveat based on the 00z Euro, the PAC jet has to relax as modeled. Shades of '09/'10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bostonseminole Posted November 28, 2010 Share Posted November 28, 2010 I wouldn't really worry too much what 6z or 18z models runs show at this stage of the game As long as 0z/12z runs continue to show positive signals that's all we can be happy about right now and then as we get much closer than start worrying about details and such. Both GFS/Euro show a potentially good pattern and that's all we want to at least see right now. I agree, I'm not that worried about it, I've learned my lesson over and over again, it seems that every threat is 180 hrs away and never moves, is like groundhog day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted November 28, 2010 Share Posted November 28, 2010 I agree, I'm not that worried about it, I've learned my lesson over and over again, it seems that every threat is 180 hrs away and never moves, is like groundhog day The models love to have their fun in the long-range. Sometimes I think when people look into the long-range they look at it for the wrong reasons, like looking for if the model shows a storm and if it shows a perfect track. I think the most important thing to consider is how the pattern looks. If the pattern looks quite favorable than obviously chances are pretty good (not guaranteed) that something may occur. Even if the models aren't sniffing out any storm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted November 28, 2010 Share Posted November 28, 2010 Shades of '09/'10 It would be kind of amazing to think that given the Moderate/Strong Nina and the -NAO that this ends up hitting the Mid-Atl and not us. Swift kick in the balls for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted November 28, 2010 Share Posted November 28, 2010 Chilly day...still November folks. Everything according to plan so far. I think I will worry some if we have no decent snow before 12/15. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ski MRG Posted November 28, 2010 Author Share Posted November 28, 2010 It would be kind of amazing to think that given the Moderate/Strong Nina and the -NAO that this ends up hitting the Mid-Atl and not us. Swift kick in the balls for sure. Won't go down like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted November 28, 2010 Share Posted November 28, 2010 Won't go down like that. I will agree here...Thank God Not sure if I could go through that again, especially two winters in a row. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted November 28, 2010 Share Posted November 28, 2010 What you have to do is do like I, embrace the boring cold... Here, I am about to set out for 18 holes of Disk Golf with my buddy T-Bone in 24F cold... The upshot will seeing the ponds icing over - I'm just steeped enough in nerdliness to want to monitor minutia like that ... Later. I bet a surprising number of us monitor this type of stuff... haha. Well, looks like we are going to have to enjoy whatever snow showers, squalls, and flurries we can get because synoptic snow appears to like avoiding New England. Hopefully we can at least nickle and dime our way to some snowfall like we did yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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