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Yeah I'm very curious as well. I've been talking with Greg Hanson, the senior hydrologist at WFO BTV, because we are going to try and do liquid measurements next year off our snow boards... but for this spring he's trying to get us an Adirondack Snow Sampler so we can give him some liquid equivalents at our snow study areas. He said they gave all there's out UVM and Lyndon State geography/met students so they can do an analysis for a school project. I've seen some of those kids out on Mansfield so I'm hoping to get my hands on their data.

Next season we are going to do a bi-weekly snowpack assessment for BTV but I'd like to try it out this spring just because we have such a solid snowpack (ranging from 40" to 90", bottom to top) that has got to have a lot of liquid in it.

Hopefully all of this releases slowly because even the lowlands io the Champlain Valley have over 30" on the ground.

This would be awesome. I'd love to get a more detailed snow analysis going next year. Anything I or my skiing friends (who you know) can do let us know. As you are aware...we're everyhwere....(insert evil laugh).

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It's gonna be interesting when all this deep snow starts to let go over the next month. Lots of water locked up.

I've been thinking of doing a core to see what the snow/water equivelent is here--maybe 6" or more...?

I'll take the over...

After the Feb thundersnow, I had 4.7" LE in 23" snowpack. Since then I've had nearly 3" frozen precip (about .5" is ZR) and about an inch of plain old rain, but with surprisingly little signs of runoff. I'm guessing that my 22" - significantly less than your depth - has around 7" water. I could've sampled it Monday morning like cocorahs wants (my earlier sample was taken on Sunday aft, when I had time to do it and melt it), but I was more interested in getting out of my driveway and down the sleet-over-mud gravel road. That 2" sleet/ZR layer is armorplate now and all but impossible to core. Maybe if it softens enough Friday?

Given that snowdepths over 12-14" require multiple cores, which must then be emptied into a separate container, I do the melting by adding a known quantity of hot tapwater, which can then be deducted from the total. Much the quickest method for an accurate reading.

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Thanks for all the great pictures Scott, absolutely agree about the day. Started off clear and cold with single digits, and went right into clear and warm at around 30 F. I was up skiing with Dylan at Stowe yesterday and it was a great one to be out.

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BTV has their storm total summary out, and I hadn't seen it posted yet so I've added it below. The highest listing on there for snowfall is 3 SW Jay at 34.0", and for snowpack it’s Mt Mansfield at 90.0” of course, but there is also Jay Peak at 78.0”, then 4 N Walden at 49.0”. In our neck of the woods in Washington County we’re 3 NW Waterbury, and it looks like there were several Waterbury sites right in that 2-foot accumulation range like us. It is interesting to note that the other two Waterbury sites listed in the snowpack section of the table, which are both NE of town, had notably lower values for snowpack. Those spots would be much more removed from the spine, so I’m sure our location gets a lot more upslope snow, but as we discussed earlier in one of the threads, that doesn’t really amount to much in terms of snowpack building. The discrepancy certainly wasn’t from this synoptic event with those sites receiving 22.2” and 24.2” of snow, so it must have been in the past with another event or it could have been during consolidation during one of the warm spells.

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PUBLIC INFORMATION STATEMENT
SPOTTER REPORTS
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE BURLINGTON VT
1015 AM EST TUE MAR 08 2011

THE FOLLOWING ARE UNOFFICIAL OBSERVATIONS TAKEN DURING THE PAST
27 HOURS FOR THE STORM THAT HAS BEEN AFFECTING OUR REGION.
APPRECIATION IS EXTENDED TO HIGHWAY DEPARTMENTS...COOPERATIVE AND
COCORAHS OBSERVERS...SKYWARN SPOTTERS AND MEDIA FOR THESE REPORTS.
THIS SUMMARY IS ALSO AVAILABLE ON OUR HOME PAGE AT 
WEATHER.GOV/BURLINGTON

********************STORM TOTAL SNOWFALL********************

LOCATION          STORM TOTAL     TIME/DATE   COMMENTS                   
                    SNOWFALL           OF 
                    /INCHES/   MEASUREMENT

NEW YORK

...CLINTON COUNTY...
  1 W PERU              24.0   736 PM  3/07  AMATEUR RADIO           
  PLATTSBURGH           22.0  1100 AM  3/07  CHANNEL 5               
  MORRISONVILLE         22.0  1100 AM  3/07  PUBLIC                  
  PERU                  22.0   731 PM  3/07  AMATEUR RADIO           
  4 ESE PERU            18.5   931 AM  3/08  COCORAHS                

...ESSEX COUNTY...
  BLOOMINGDALE          32.0   738 PM  3/07  AMATEUR RADIO           
  3 N WESTPORT          27.0   911 AM  3/07                          
  WESTPORT              27.0   930 AM  3/07  SPOTTER                 
  1 N LAKE PLACID       23.0   440 PM  3/07  COCORAHS OBSERVER       
  MORIAH                22.5   909 AM  3/07                          
  UPPER JAY             22.0   840 AM  3/07                          

...FRANKLIN COUNTY...
  TUPPER LAKE           29.0   909 AM  3/07  SPOTTER                 
  SARANAC LAKE          29.0  1115 AM  3/07  PUBLIC                  
  CHASM FALLS           26.4  1112 AM  3/07  PUBLIC                  
  MALONE                24.0   735 PM  3/07  AMATEUR RADIO           
  1 WSW MALONE          23.0   928 AM  3/08  CO-OP OBSERVER          
  ST. REGIS FALLS       23.0   733 PM  3/07  AMATEUR RADIO           
  5 S MALONE            22.0   735 PM  3/07  AMATEUR RADIO           
  WHIPPLEVILLE          17.4  1134 AM  3/07  SPOTTER                 

...ST. LAWRENCE COUNTY...
  POTSDAM                9.0   747 AM  3/07  SPOTTER                 
  EDWARDS                6.5   733 PM  3/07  AMATEUR RADIO           
  1 NW EDWARDS           4.0   932 AM  3/08  COCORAHS                

VERMONT

...ADDISON COUNTY...
  2 NW LINCOLN          24.0   914 AM  3/08  COCORAHS                
  BRIDPORT              24.0   100 PM  3/07  SPOTTER                 
  SALISBURY             23.8   541 PM  3/07  PUBLIC                  
  1 WNW ORWELL          23.0   535 PM  3/07  COCORAHS                
  CORNWALL              22.0  1030 AM  3/07  SPOTTER                 
  SOUTH LINCOLN         21.7   916 AM  3/08  CO-OP OBSERVER          

...CALEDONIA COUNTY...
  2 SW SUTTON           24.2   920 AM  3/08  CO-OP OBSERVER          
  2 N SUTTON            23.5   921 AM  3/08  CO-OP OBSERVER          
  3 NNW SHEFFIELD       23.2   921 AM  3/08  COCORAHS                
  4 N WALDEN            21.2   921 AM  3/08  CO-OP OBSERVER          
  LYNDONVILLE           21.0  1215 PM  3/07  LYNDON STATE            
  ST. JOHNSBURY         20.3   922 AM  3/08  CO-OP OBSERVER          

...CHITTENDEN COUNTY...
  JERICHO               30.0  1136 AM  3/07  TOWN HIGHWAY            
  1 ENE NORTH UNDERHIL  27.0   928 AM  3/08  NWS EMPLOYEE            
  1 N ESSEX JUNCTION    26.7   957 AM  3/08  CO-OP OBSERVER          
  2 NW WESTFORD         26.0   330 PM  3/07  NWS EMPLOYEE            
  1 NE SOUTH BURLINGTO  25.8   823 PM  3/07  NWS OFFICE              
  HINESBURG             24.5   400 PM  3/07  PUBLIC                  
  1 ESE NASHVILLE       23.4   714 PM  3/07  NWS EMPLOYEE            
  SOUTH BURLINGTON      23.0   737 PM  3/07  AMATEUR RADIO           
  3 SE SOUTH BURLINGTO  21.0   916 AM  3/08  COCORAHS                
  2 E COLCHESTER POINT  17.0   742 PM  3/07  NWS EMPLOYEE            

...ESSEX COUNTY...
  ISLAND POND           20.0   947 AM  3/08  CO-OP OBSERVER          

...FRANKLIN COUNTY...
  HIGHGATE CENTER       22.5   400 PM  3/07  PUBLIC                  
  SWANTON               22.2   400 PM  3/07  PUBLIC                  

...LAMOILLE COUNTY...
  1 ESE PLEASANT VALLE  30.0   400 PM  3/07  SPOTTER                 
  1 NW SOUTH CAMBRIDGE  28.2   819 PM  3/07  TRAINED SPOTTER         
  3 SSE JEFFERSONVILLE  28.0   923 AM  3/08  CO-OP OBSERVER          
  MORRISVILLE           27.5   458 PM  3/07  PUBLIC                  
  STOWE                 27.0  1245 PM  3/07  PUBLIC                  
  2 S EDEN              24.0   923 AM  3/08  CO-OP OBSERVER          
  2 ESE NORTH HYDE PAR  24.0   531 PM  3/07  COOP                    
  3 NE HYDE PARK        19.8   923 AM  3/08  COCORAHS                
  8 NW STOWE            16.0   600 PM  3/07  MOUNT MANSFIELD COOP    

...ORANGE COUNTY...
  2 E CORINTH CORNERS   10.2   924 AM  3/08  CO-OP OBSERVER          
  2 NNW CHELSEA         10.0   957 AM  3/08  CO-OP OBSERVER          
  1 NNW UNION VILLAGE    3.0   958 AM  3/08  CO-OP OBSERVER          

...ORLEANS COUNTY...
  3 SW JAY              34.0   924 AM  3/08  CO-OP OBSERVER          
  WESTMORE              30.0   910 PM  3/07  TRAINED SPOTTER         
  1 WNW WESTFIELD       29.5   924 AM  3/08  COCORAHS                
  1 NE NEWPORT          29.0   924 AM  3/08  CO-OP OBSERVER          
  7 SE MORGAN           25.0   925 AM  3/08  COCORAHS                
  3 ENE BARTON          25.0   925 AM  3/08  COCORAHS                
  2 WNW STANNARD        18.7   500 PM  3/07  SPOTTER                 

...RUTLAND COUNTY...
  1 N RUTLAND           12.2   925 AM  3/08  CO-OP OBSERVER          
  WALLINGFORD           10.0   839 AM  3/07  GENERAL PUBLIC          

...WASHINGTON COUNTY...
  4 ENE CABOT           26.7  1005 AM  3/08  COCORAHS                
  1 WNW WEST DANVILLE   26.0   925 AM  3/08  SPOTTER                 
  1 ESE WAITSFIELD      25.6   926 AM  3/08  CO-OP OBSERVER          
  2 SE WAITSFIELD       25.6   928 AM  3/08  COCORAHS                
  2 NNE WATERBURY CENT  25.5   435 PM  3/07  SPOTTER                 
  3 NW WATERBURY        25.0   930 AM  3/08  COCORAHS                
  3 NE WATERBURY        24.2   930 AM  3/08  COCORAHS                
  2 WNW WORCESTER       22.5   927 AM  3/08  CO-OP OBSERVER          
  5 NNE WATERBURY       22.2   928 AM  3/08  COCORAHS                
  1 NW EAST WARREN      22.0   500 PM  3/07                          
  4 WNW BERLIN          19.8  1005 AM  3/08  COCORAHS                
  4 ESE MARSHFIELD      18.5   150 PM  3/07  SPOTTER                 
  1 SSW NORTHFIELD FAL  17.0   926 AM  3/08  CO-OP OBSERVER          
  5 SW MARSHFIELD       16.7   929 AM  3/08  COCORAHS                
  MONTPELIER JUNCTION   16.0   925 AM  3/08  CO-OP OBSERVER          
  2 SW EAST CALAIS      14.5   929 AM  3/08  COCORAHS                
  1 ESE PLAINFIELD      14.0   926 AM  3/08  CO-OP OBSERVER          

...WINDSOR COUNTY...
  3 WNW EAST BETHEL     15.7   927 AM  3/08  CO-OP OBSERVER          
  1 S ROCHESTER         14.0   927 AM  3/08  CO-OP OBSERVER          
  3 N POMFRET           11.5   926 AM  3/08  COCORAHS                
  1 ENE WOODSTOCK        8.0   931 AM  3/08  CO-OP OBSERVER          
  1 WSW LUDLOW           4.6   927 AM  3/08  COCORAHS                
  3 S LUDLOW             2.3  1004 AM  3/08  COCORAHS                


***********************SNOW ON GROUND***********************

LOCATION                 SNOW     TIME/DATE   COMMENTS                   
                    ON GROUND           OF 
                    /INCHES/   MEASUREMENT

NEW YORK

...CLINTON COUNTY...
  4 ESE PERU            26.5   600 AM  3/08  COCORAHS                

...ESSEX COUNTY...
  2 N LAKE PLACID       43.0   745 AM  3/08  COCORAHS                

...FRANKLIN COUNTY...
  1 SW MALONE           25.0   700 AM  3/08  CO-OP OBSERVER          

...ST. LAWRENCE COUNTY...
  SW HANNAWA FALLS      15.0   700 AM  3/08  COCORAHS                
  1 NW EDWARDS           7.0   700 AM  3/08  COCORAHS                

VERMONT

...ADDISON COUNTY...
  SOUTH LINCOLN         29.0   700 AM  3/08  CO-OP OBSERVER          
  2 NW LINCOLN          27.5   700 AM  3/08  COCORAHS                

...CALEDONIA COUNTY...
  4 N WALDEN            49.0   700 AM  3/08  CO-OP OBSERVER          
  3 NNW SHEFFIELD       40.5   600 AM  3/08  COCORAHS                
  2 SW SUTTON           37.0   705 AM  3/08  CO-OP OBSERVER          
  2 NE SUTTON           28.0   700 AM  3/08  CO-OP OBSERVER          
  ST JOHNSBURY          25.0   400 PM  3/07  CO-OP OBSERVER          

...CHITTENDEN COUNTY...
  4 NNE UNDERHILL       39.0   800 AM  3/08  COCORAHS                
  1 E NASHVILLE         32.0   645 AM  3/08  NWS EMPLOYEE            
  1 N ESSEX JUNCTION    30.0   800 AM  3/08  CO-OP OBSERVER          
  3 SE SOUTH BURLINGTO  28.0   600 AM  3/08  COCORAHS                

...ESSEX COUNTY...
  1 N ISLAND POND       31.0  1030 AM  3/07  CO-OP OBSERVER          

...LAMOILLE COUNTY...
  MOUNT MANSFIELD       90.0   400 PM  3/07  CO-OP OBSERVER          
  5 N JEFFERSONVILLE    42.0   730 AM  3/08  CO-OP OBSERVER          
  2 S EDEN              40.0   849 AM  3/08  CO-OP OBSERVER          
  SW STOWE              35.0   730 AM  3/07  COCORAHS                
  3 NE HYDE PARK        27.0   700 AM  3/08  COCORAHS                

...ORANGE COUNTY...
  CORINTH               33.0   620 AM  3/08  CO-OP OBSERVER          
  2 NW CHELSEA          33.0   700 AM  3/08  CO-OP OBSERVER          
  UNION VILLAGE DAM     21.0   700 AM  3/08  CO-OP OBSERVER          

...ORLEANS COUNTY...
  JAY PEAK              78.0   600 AM  3/08  CO-OP OBSERVER          
  NEWPORT               44.0   700 AM  3/08  CO-OP OBSERVER          
  2 NW DERBY CENTER     35.0   700 AM  3/08  COCORAHS                
  1 WNW WESTFIELD       33.0   800 AM  3/07  COCORAHS                
  3 ENE BARTON          33.0   700 AM  3/08  COCORAHS                

...RUTLAND COUNTY...
  1 N RUTLAND           24.0   700 AM  3/08  CO-OP OBSERVER          
  1 N WEST RUTLAND      14.2   900 AM  3/07  COCORAHS                
  DANBY FOUR CORNERS     8.0   920 AM  3/07  CO-OP OBSERVER          

...WASHINGTON COUNTY...
  4 ENE CABOT           40.0   900 AM  3/08  COCORAHS                
  3 NW WATERBURY        39.5   700 AM  3/08  COCORAHS                
  3 ENE MIDDLESEX       35.0   730 AM  3/07  COCORAHS                
  2 SW EAST CALAIS      35.0   600 AM  3/08  COCORAHS                
  2 W WAITSFIELD        33.0   700 AM  3/08  CO-OP OBSERVER          
  2 SE WAITSFIELD       33.0   700 AM  3/08  COCORAHS                
  5 NNE WATERBURY       31.0   700 AM  3/08  COCORAHS                
  2 W WORCESTER         31.0   700 AM  3/08  CO-OP OBSERVER          
  PLAINFIELD            27.0   700 AM  3/08  CO-OP OBSERVER          
  1 N NORTHFIELD        26.0   700 AM  3/08  CO-OP OBSERVER          
  2 SW MONTPELIER       26.0   700 AM  3/08  CO-OP OBSERVER          
  3 NE WATERBURY        24.0   600 AM  3/08  COCORAHS                
  5 SW MARSHFIELD       24.0   545 AM  3/08  COCORAHS                

...WINDSOR COUNTY...
  4 N BETHEL            39.0   700 AM  3/08  CO-OP OBSERVER          
  3 N POMFRET           35.0   700 AM  3/08  COCORAHS                
  CAVENDISH             22.0   730 AM  3/07  CO-OP OBSERVER          
  1 S ROCHESTER         20.0   746 AM  3/08  CO-OP OBSERVER          
  WOODSTOCK             18.0   800 AM  3/08  CO-OP OBSERVER          

$$

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wow Malone NY got 23 inches and i only got 7-8???

that is a bitter, bitter pill.

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Winter is pretty much rolling to a close in non elevated areas. Snowpack at my school is definitely taking a huge hit with these rainstorms and my house is just plain nasty and disgusting right now in terms of just dirty street and no snow.

Just about time to put a fork in it down this way unless like you said you live in elevated areas, We will be taking another hit this week..

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From ineedsnow's post...do you know what area/towns this is referring to?

"eastern townships at 1800 feet is the real gods country"

Is this in the U.S., near Derby VT? Or, further east? Or, in Canada?

Thanks in advance. :)

I'm in awe of the incredible snow depths in the NEK this winter...good stuff.

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well we should get 4-8 inches here tonight and tomorow before the rain. i'll probably surpass my seasonal peak of a rather meh 25 inches depth early tomorrow morning......i have 21 currently.

I just saw that BTV has winter weather advisories up for the coming event. They're suggesting 2 to 4 inches of snow, then some mix/frozen stuff, just like Powderfreak said he was thinking in the "Turn out the lights" thread.

URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE

NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE BURLINGTON VT

215 PM EST WED MAR 9 2011

VTZ003-004-006>008-010-012-101000-

/O.NEW.KBTV.WW.Y.0012.110310T0500Z-110311T0000Z/

ORLEANS-ESSEX-LAMOILLE-CALEDONIA-WASHINGTON-ORANGE-WINDSOR-

INCLUDING THE CITIES OF...NEWPORT...ISLAND POND...JOHNSON...

STOWE...ST. JOHNSBURY...MONTPELIER...BRADFORD...RANDOLPH...

SPRINGFIELD...WHITE RIVER JUNCTION

215 PM EST WED MAR 9 2011

...WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY IN EFFECT FROM MIDNIGHT TONIGHT TO

7 PM EST THURSDAY...

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN BURLINGTON HAS ISSUED A WINTER

WEATHER ADVISORY...WHICH IS IN EFFECT FROM MIDNIGHT TONIGHT TO

7 PM EST THURSDAY.

* LOCATIONS...CENTRAL AND EASTERN VERMONT.

* HAZARD TYPES...MIXED WINTRY PRECIPITATION.

* ACCUMULATIONS...SNOW ACCUMULATION OF 2 TO 4 INCHES...ALONG

WITH UP TO A TENTH OF AN INCH OF ICE.

* TIMING...SNOW WILL DEVELOP ACROSS CENTRAL AND EASTERN VERMONT

DURING THE PRE-DAWN HOURS THURSDAY. SNOW WILL GRADUALLY MIX WITH

SLEET AND FREEZING RAIN LATE THURSDAY MORNING...WITH POCKETS OF

FREEZING RAIN POSSIBLE THROUGH THURSDAY AFTERNOON IN SHELTERED

VALLEYS.

* IMPACTS...SLIPPERY ROAD CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED FOR THE MORNING

COMMUTE ON THURSDAY...PERSISTING THROUGH THE AFTERNOON HOURS IN

SHELTERED VALLEY LOCATIONS.

* WINDS...SOUTHEAST 10 TO 20 MPH WITH GUSTS UP TO 35 MPH.

* TEMPERATURES...IN THE UPPER 20S.

* VISIBILITIES...OCCASIONALLY LESS THAN ONE HALF MILE IN SNOW

DURING THURSDAY MORNING.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

A WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY MEANS THAT PERIODS OF SNOW...SLEET...OR

FREEZING RAIN WILL CAUSE TRAVEL DIFFICULTIES. BE PREPARED FOR

SLIPPERY ROADS AND LIMITED VISIBILITIES...AND USE CAUTION WHILE

DRIVING.

$$

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From ineedsnow's post...do you know what area/towns this is referring to?

"eastern townships at 1800 feet is the real gods country"

Is this in the U.S., near Derby VT? Or, further east? Or, in Canada?

Thanks in advance. :)

I'm in awe of the incredible snow depths in the NEK this winter...good stuff.

The Eastern Townships basically cover the area due north of the VT, NH and western most ME section of the border between the US and Quebec .

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Just about time to put a fork in it down this way unless like you said you live in elevated areas, We will be taking another hit this week..

Hope not - the March (and April, though not much can be expected there) disappointments are getting old.

March, last three years:

2008: Mediocre. Anticlimax to a great winter

2009: Bad. Winter absolutely dead 3/3 on.

2010: Historically awful, but winter had been a rotting corpse for some time already.

2011? Right now, looking at the 16-day guesswork, I'm thinking 2009-like, but with a different date of decease.

However, March at my current location has been pretty much feast or famine..

1999: Great. Though mild, had 32" with two 14" storms

2000: Poor, like rest of that winter.

2001: Wow!! Storms of 19", 16", 9.5", 7", 4". 48" OG on 3/31. Hit -25, too.

2002: See 2000.

2003: Fair. Cold and dry, like rest of winter.

2004: About like 2009.

2005: Great, 31" and cold, though the snow machine died after 3/13.

2006: Would be "historically awful" but 2010 took that title.

2007: Good. Cold and nice 8" storms 2nd, 17th. (Then 37" in April)

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I'll take the over...

After the Feb thundersnow, I had 4.7" LE in 23" snowpack. Since then I've had nearly 3" frozen precip (about .5" is ZR) and about an inch of plain old rain, but with surprisingly little signs of runoff. I'm guessing that my 22" - significantly less than your depth - has around 7" water. I could've sampled it Monday morning like cocorahs wants (my earlier sample was taken on Sunday aft, when I had time to do it and melt it), but I was more interested in getting out of my driveway and down the sleet-over-mud gravel road. That 2" sleet/ZR layer is armorplate now and all but impossible to core. Maybe if it softens enough Friday?

Given that snowdepths over 12-14" require multiple cores, which must then be emptied into a separate container, I do the melting by adding a known quantity of hot tapwater, which can then be deducted from the total. Much the quickest method for an accurate reading.

Yeah, probably more than 6". I was being conservative. ;)

I'll know when I get home and it's all melted down. I just took my 8" diameter standard rain gauge and shoved it down through the snow till I hit bottom and pulled it out. Surprisingly, the snow stayed nice and packed in the cylinder (30" tall or so) and I actually reached down far enough where I saw blades of grass. I left the cylinder inside, packed with snow and with a top on it to reduce evaporation. I've never actually done a core this way and it likely isn't very scientific but it might give me a rough idea of the water content.

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Winter Weather Advisory in effect... BTV calling for 2-4" like J.Spin said, however my point and click would imply up to 5" is possible haha.

Point and click for the ski resort on Mansfield looks very interesting over the next few days...3-6" of snow, followed by rain (although the precipitation amounts show .1-.25" and then less than .1" so BTV implies not much rain)... along with strong, and damaging winds:

Tonight: Snow, mainly after 1am. Low around 20. Wind chill values as low as -4. Very windy, with a south wind 35 to 40 mph increasing to between 50 and 55 mph. Chance of precipitation is 100%. New snow accumulation of 1 to 2 inches possible.

Thursday: Snow before 4pm, then sleet. High near 35. Wind chill values as low as -1. Strong and damaging winds, with a south wind between 55 and 60 mph. Chance of precipitation is 100%. New snow and sleet accumulation of 2 to 4 inches possible.

Thursday Night: Rain and sleet, becoming all rain after 7pm. Low around 34. Strong and damaging winds, with a south wind between 60 and 70 mph. Chance of precipitation is 80%. New precipitation amounts between a tenth and quarter of an inch possible.

Friday: Rain, mainly before 4pm. High near 39. Strong and damaging winds, with a south wind 65 to 70 mph decreasing to between 55 and 60 mph. Chance of precipitation is 80%. New rainfall amounts of less than a tenth of an inch possible.

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Had a nice ski tour this morning up & back down Gile Mountain in Norwich, VT. The skiing was excellent. The old snowpack is deep & firm under foot and there was a couple inches of powder on top to lighten & fluffen the whole affair. While we had no freezing rain at the house during the last event, not too far to the south and east of home, there was a fair bit of icing and the trees even now are pretty iced up above 700' or so. The summit of Gile is 1800' and there is a fire tower on the top.

Here are a few shots...

Some serious ice on the trees:

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Looking up the tower:

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With the telephoto, I was able to zoom in pretty well on Killington & Pico some 25-30 miles WSW from Gile Mountain:

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Looking south to Mount Ascutney, a lone pine and lots of iced up hardwoods. As you can see, there was quite a lot of haze in the air:

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It was a little trecherous climbing up & down the tower but I managed. ;)

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Honestly, even if the snowpack takes a full 12" hit (or more) we could still have 2 feet on the ground after this event. I wandered around out back with the yardstick and that storm snow was dense and did not settle much... even after two sunny mid-March days (and a high of 35F today) there's still 36-37" of settled snow on the ground going into this next system. If we get 3" or so we'll probably hit 40" of snow depth again before the rain comes.

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BTV’s updated graphics are up for the coming system, so I’ve added them below.

Like Scott said, the point forecasts for the mountains around here suggest a 3-5, 3-6-inch snowfall. Our point forecast in the valley suggests 2 to 3 inches of snow, which falls through tomorrow afternoon, then liquid precipitation in the Thursday night through Friday night period, then snow works back in for Saturday and Sunday.

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It's gonna be interesting when all this deep snow starts to let go over the next month. Lots of water locked up.

I've been thinking of doing a core to see what the snow/water equivelent is here--maybe 6" or more...?

Yeah I'm very curious as well. I've been talking with Greg Hanson, the senior hydrologist at WFO BTV, because we are going to try and do liquid measurements next year off our snow boards... but for this spring he's trying to get us an Adirondack Snow Sampler so we can give him some liquid equivalents at our snow study areas. He said they gave all there's out UVM and Lyndon State geography/met students so they can do an analysis for a school project. I've seen some of those kids out on Mansfield so I'm hoping to get my hands on their data.

Next season we are going to do a bi-weekly snowpack assessment for BTV but I'd like to try it out this spring just because we have such a solid snowpack (ranging from 40" to 90", bottom to top) that has got to have a lot of liquid in it.

Hopefully all of this releases slowly because even the lowlands io the Champlain Valley have over 30" on the ground.

That would be great to have liquid analyses from the mountain Scott, the ones from the stake are nice, but based on the numbers we see for snowfall, it makes one curious if everything is being caught in their gauge.

I've been wanting to do a snowpack core, and a few weeks back Chuck McGill from CoCoRaHS sent us an email encouraging folks to do them. So with the recent comments and the current snowpack it seemed like a good time. Anyway, I did one this evening and the snowpack here contained 7.84 inches of liquid.

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Light snow falling now but only a trace by the looks of things outside. 28F

Anyway, I did one this evening and the snowpack here contained 7.84 inches of liquid.

My core finally melted down (didn't do the add known quantity of warm water trick) and ended up with 8.9" SWE. Damn! Glad I don't live in a low-lying, flood-prone spot but I may have to fire up the sump pump in the cellar before the month is out.

And I do have a canoe. :flood:

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A healthy start to this system this morning..

2.0" new at 800ft in town (snow depth 38.5") at 26F

3.1" new at 1,500ft (snow depth 45") at 25F

Groomers reporting a little over 4" at the summit last night.

Snowing steadily, probably 1"/hr. I'm thinking the yellow and oranges right over the Mansfield ridgeline are clutter, but it is snowing pretty hard with good dendrites.

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2.0" new at 800ft in town (snow depth 38.5") at 26F

3.1" new at 1,500ft (snow depth 45") at 25F

Hey, that much already, eh? Pretty good. Not so over here. Guess the pricip stayed west (of here) overnight. The last system did that too--we had nothing at all last Saturday and yet I encountered a bit of rain in Jeffersonville, Cambridge, Smuggs, etc.

Just took a closer look but still haven't 'officially' measured yet--looks like a tenth or two so far.

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20F and 2" new, snowing moderately. broke out the xc trail last night behind the house, pretty deep when 155cm poles are worthless, if you skied gently you could skim the top 12", but any pole pressure was useless, ever see a man moon walk forward thumbsupsmileyanim.gif, great for clearing canopy, getting limbs I could never reach without a pole saw

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