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March 7th-9th Potential Storm


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I'll call it now the 55" benchmark goes down with this storm. :)

Your thoughts briefly? I'm thinking strong WAA will be abated by the fact the intial storm is become weaker and weaker by the model run. Moreover, there's a feed of low level dry air from that high in QC which should promote evap. cooling. TDs are below freezing until 3z tomorrow or so. Am I missing something that would turns this into more rain than snow?

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Your thoughts briefly? I'm thinking strong WAA will be abated by the fact the intial storm is become weaker and weaker by the model run. Moreover, there's a feed of low level dry air from that high in QC which should promote evap. cooling. TDs are below freezing until 3z tomorrow or so. Am I missing something that would turns this into more rain than snow?

I think the only way it goes to rain is if the low backs in further west than expected or if the low level dry air is not as prevalent causing weaker evaporative cooling

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I think the only way it goes to rain is if the low backs in further west than expected or if the low level dry air is not as prevalent causing weaker evaporative cooling

Thanks. I was also thinking in the precip/cloud shield is delayed that might allow temps to recover quickly due to strong March insolation. We'll see. I think 54" for the season is a good minimum to go with by tomorrow evening. :)

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It's worth mentioning we're still at 36 F this hour in Milwaukee. The predicted high is 42, so this might have minor implications if we don't get near 42.

Yeah, temps have leveled off at 39° F at MSN, and have slowly declined to 37.6° F on top of the met building. Must be some cold layer aloft mixing down that wasn't expected, since we had good mixing today.

Nice precip conveyor shooting right for southern WI we'll see how temps react as that moves in with the sun going down. Wouldn't be surprised to see front end snow/sleet afterall just from evap cooling and the colder temps already in place. A very warm layer over Illinois will definitely force all rain for some hours tonight though as that advects in.

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Yeah, temps have leveled off at 39° F at MSN, and have slowly declined to 37.6° F on top of the met building. Must be some cold layer aloft mixing down that wasn't expected, since we had good mixing today.

Nice precip conveyor shooting right for southern WI we'll see how temps react as that moves in with the sun going down. Wouldn't be surprised to see front end snow/sleet afterall just from evap cooling and the colder temps already in place. A very warm layer over Illinois will definitely force all rain for some hours tonight though as that advects in.

Going along with that, I think there'll definitely be a nowcast element to this. If the trends continue, MKX may have to expand the advisories SE slightly more. Even so, I'm not sure Milwaukee itself has a chance to see advisory snows.

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So, I am curious what the logic is with this: MKX previously had a zone forecast of a rain/snow mix with a low temp of 36 tonight, now they have shifted to a low temp of 33 and all rain. How could a low of 36 have yielded a chance for some snow to mix in, but a low of 33 not?

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So, I am curious what the logic is with this: MKX previously had a zone forecast of a rain/snow mix with a low temp of 36 tonight, now they have shifted to a low temp of 33 and all rain. How could a low of 36 have yielded a chance for some snow to mix in, but a low of 33 not?

They don't point forecast, they forecast each different field all at once, so inconsistencies arise without them realizing. That's a pretty bad one though and it's obviously a mistake.

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They don't point forecast, they forecast each different field all at once, so inconsistencies arise without them realizing. That's a pretty bad one though and it's obviously a mistake.

My one possible explanation for the mistake is that, at the time of the forecast, there was enough possible error that, even with a min temp of 36, there would be a chance it would hit freezing and mix with snow. Btw, right now it's 35 on my home thermometer. I would have to think it will only go down from there. Will defintely be borderline for most of the night.

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should be a good thump of snow on the front end, i see EC isnt calling for anything in the city but 2-4 in richmond hill.

it looked as though the euro was suggesting some backside snow for you too may be possible.

It's weird. Models trend colder and they drop the minimal accums. they already had in. Even the RGEM/GGEM's indicating several hours of snow, so I'm not sure what they're looking at. I respect EC but they've been struggling this winter. They've hit the potentially higher impact events too hard, while the more modest events they've underestimated too much.

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Waukesha's already hit freezing! That's their expected low, so I guess it stays steady or warms from here?

Down to 37° F at MSN and 35.4° F on top of the met building, and dropping quickly up there! Dewpoint is 31° F and dropping up there as well, which is a very good sign that things will be below freezing when we hit saturation and the precip gets to the ground.

More substantial bands with precip reaching the ground appear to be crossing into WI now.

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