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was at wa wa yesterday ....today looks like a good bet again 2-530.....some flakes in the air up there over 1200'.

Big big winter for the elevated interior wont' die

and if forky is gonna post winter is over...for the kicks of it.....he shouldn't do it in a irresponsible way...i.e "there will be no ice outside of n. vt nh maine...." and then low and behold it was one of the most dangerous driving days of the year in the am for those from 128 W and N ....esp. side roads.

So i basically discard anything he says and listen to the local mets b/c i know when they are sarcastic and when they are serious.

I was there for about an hour and a half last night. Too icy, but on the other hand the place was empty.

I had never been on it when it was that icy before.

Squalls coming here soon, based on how the sky looks and radar. (at work in Plastic City)

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Exactly. I appreciate his posts and pictures but it's not representative of SNE on the whole...not even close really.

Thanks..I think you've been even keeled all winter to be honest. We've been on the same page for 3+ weeks that we were into a much different pattern.

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Sneak torch today, CT in the mid/upper 40s, a ton of MA/RI too.

And I hope you know I'm joking with the green grass thing, but I've been home during multi 60-70F days in mid March and the grass just started to have a hint of green in the sunniest of spots. I find it difficult to envision that occurring now, especially after being snow covered so long, but I'm not there to see so who knows.

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And I hope you know I'm joking with the green grass thing, but I've been home during multi 60-70F days in mid March and the grass just started to have a hint of green in the sunniest of spots. I find it difficult to envision that occurring now, especially after being snow covered so long, but I'm not there to see so who knows.

It's all about soil temps. This year isn't going to facilitate significant early season greening even on south facing slopes. These cold outbreaks are keeping ground temps really low. I still have snow in the backyard. It seems to take 3-4 day warm outbreaks for it to get "darkening" here in mid march but that doesn't appear to be on the horizon. Grass won't come out of dormancy until soil temps are in the 55-60 degree range consistently. It will start to darken/green, but it won't really grow.

From what I've seen this winter contact with snow is a big lawn duller. A few objects that got loose on the lawn that in turn formed a barrier between the snow and the lawn...the lawn is many shades darker underneath...almost as if the cold/snow contact takes the color right ouf of the lawn.

I'm thinking about 3/15 we start to see some notable greening here...but that will depend entirely on the temps.

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It's all about soil temps. This year isn't going to facilitate significant early season greening even on south facing slopes. These cold outbreaks are keeping ground temps really low. I still have snow in the backyard. It seems to take 3-4 day warm outbreaks for it to get "darkening" here in mid march but that doesn't appear to be on the horizon. Grass won't come out of dormancy until soil temps are in the 55-60 degree range consistently. It will start to darken/green, but it won't really grow.

From what I've seen this winter contact with snow is a big lawn duller. A few objects that got loose on the lawn that in turn formed a barrier between the snow and the lawn...the lawn is many shades darker underneath...almost as if the cold/snow contact takes the color right ouf of the lawn.

I'm thinking about 3/15 we start to see some notable greening here...but that will depend entirely on the temps.

Funny because snow cover has an opposite effect with regard to the fround freezing...there is a deeper fground frost in season which snow cover was sparse because it provides insulation.

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:lol: ...actually no way ma-man...

I'm ready for summer -

Nah, if we were 3 days out and the EURO was showing a 1-2" QPF blue snow bomb... you'd forget all about summer very, very quickly ;)

But even up here in ski country, everyone is starting to get to the end of the "I hope it snows a lot" rope. Tomorrow morning's forecast calls for -6F in town and -15F at the top of the mountain (with 40mph winds)... that type of cold does get tiring after a while, I don't care what anyone says.

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And I hope you know I'm joking with the green grass thing, but I've been home during multi 60-70F days in mid March and the grass just started to have a hint of green in the sunniest of spots. I find it difficult to envision that occurring now, especially after being snow covered so long, but I'm not there to see so who knows.

Funny thing scooter, the snowcover all winter insulated the ground, soil temps just below the surface are above normal, and the snow is poor mans fertilizer, crocuses up at my sons daycare southern exposure against the foundation but thats nothing new, they come up waaaaay early.

looking forward to the 2 day cold snap, then its rowboat season here.

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If the ECM cut-off doesn't verify, we may be looking at one of the worst Marches ever. Literally nothing is in our favor: raging +NAO with Bermuda high dominating, -PNA/GoA low, strong Niña holding its own, etc.

Where did winter go?

If this and if that; who cares.

Maybe it's not correct in depicting that every index is unfavorable, either.

I find it VERY hard to believe that I'm only going to see .5" in March, again.

Something will work out, so I'm not sweating it.....and if it doesn't, then I have already had a great winter....the Bs are in the PS drive and the Sox are firing up.

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If this and if that; who cares.

Maybe it's not correct in depicting that every index is unfavorable, either.

I find it VERY hard to believe that I'm only going to see .5" in March, again.

Something will work out, so I'm not sweating it.....and if it doesn't, then I have already had a great winter....the Bs are in the PS drive and the Sox are firing up.

It just seems everyone was expecting this epic March and yet the pattern looks like sh*t.

I wouldn't be surprised if I don't see another snowfall of consequence this winter. Your area will get something but the weekend storm looks like a rainer, the next system is a cutter through Iowa, etc. We really needed the Sunday cutter to bomb out to reset the -NAO, but it didn't happen. I doubt this will be like March 2010 since there's so much more cold air available in Canada, but the storm track hardly looks encouraging for the Northeast to see significant snows. Given that the first week seems to be garbage, chances are really going down because so much of our March snowfall average comes from the first ten days.

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Again, the state of the NAO is only relevant for about another 10 days, anyway....and we know that nothing is in the offing this week, regardless so stop sweating it.

Not really, having a -NAO usually increases the chance of getting a big cut-off low Nor'easter. It would also send some of the cold air in Canada towards our region.

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If the ECM cut-off doesn't verify, we may be looking at one of the worst Marches ever. Literally nothing is in our favor: raging +NAO with Bermuda high dominating, -PNA/GoA low, strong Niña holding its own, etc.

Where did winter go?

My fingers are crossed on the post frontal system. Otherwise I think it's a long ugly stretch.

Two-three weeks ago many were convinced winter would return hard at the end of Feb/early March. About a two weeks or so ago that got pushed into the 3/1ish frame...last week we pushed it into the 2nd week of March and really....now where is it on any of these maps?

DT was right once the pattern broke that was it for significant threats.....hopin we pull a miracle with a post frontal system.

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