Dec 5th and 6-8 threats

[SACRUS]

im not sure the ggem would turn the corner on this one, the ridge axis looks a lil further east than the gfs, it would be close tho

Yes need that trough to go more negative but cold is king on the canadian this run for the d 8 and beyond.

[tombo82685]

Oh gosh.. now there are weenie maps at hr 240.. lord help the weenies.

lol that site has it straight through to hr 384

[CooL]

yeah that trough axis on the ggem needs to go more negative. But i am loving that ridge pumping out west (PNA).

[MJO812]

lol that site has it straight through to hr 384

What site do you use to get the model runs?

[tombo82685]

What site do you use to get the model runs?

i use the site that i pay for the euro. The site you commented about is twister data, it comes out really slow for gfs, but faster for the nam. You can get soundings and what not really quick on there to

[SACRUS]

The GGEM looks slower than the GFS.

it does appear to be pushing the storm threat to about the 9 - 10th

[tombo82685]

euro has started, out to hr 6

[Manny]

euro has started, out to hr 6

yay!

[tombo82685]

out to 48 hrs...

[SnowGoose69]

I'll go ahead and take a guess that in some aspect of its forecast the Euro will do a 180 from its prior run, its been great at that so far this season.

[CooL]

I'll go ahead and take a guess that in some aspect of its forecast the Euro will do a 180 from its prior run, its been great at that so far this season.

i hope so - a 180 from DC to NYC for the clipper, and then another 180 instead of holding back energy in the SW for the next storm.

[tombo82685]

out to hr 72, euro is still going 1-2.5 inches of rain for tues-wed period

[MJO812]

Here is the clipper on the 0z GGEM

[tombo82685]

heres the new 0z ggem, out to 240hrs with precip

http://www.stanford.edu/~tenhoeve/weather/00zPrecipGLB.htm

[tombo82685]

just a little hunch here for the clipper looking at the early panels. Block is little further north, more ridging in the plains, my guess the clipper system may be further north....

[tombo82685]

at hr 102

[CooL]

heres the new 0z ggem, out to 240hrs with precip

http://www.stanford....0zPrecipGLB.htm

wow after that clipper bombs up in canada, a monster trough swallows up the eastern u.s.. now if we can get a storm to come around

[tombo82685]

at hr 108, the storm coming out of the rockies is a good bit further north so far entering the plains.

[Manny]

at hr 108, the storm coming out of the rockies is a good bit further north so far entering the plains.

that's the potential clipper right?

[tombo82685]

that's the potential clipper right?

yes the dec 5th event

[SACRUS]

wow after that clipper bombs up in canada, a monster trough swallows up the eastern u.s.. now if we can get a storm to come around

ggem would imply some frigid temps for the area. Im interested n seeing the 850 maps when they update

http://meteocentre.com/models/gemglb_amer_00/TT_GZ_000_0850.html

[tombo82685]

hr 126 has a broad area of 1012 pressure, lgt to mod precip over mn

[MJO812]

hr 126 has a broad area of 1012 pressure, lgt to mod precip over mn

Minnesota? That's way further north than 12z.

[tombo82685]

hr 132 1012 low over se iowa, lgt to mod precip southern mn and central and southern wi

[CooL]

Minnesota? That's way further north than 12z.

the ggem link posted has most of the precip in MN as well in its early stages, and then dives SE, but still misses most of PHL/NYC..

[tombo82685]

hr 138 1012 low over central il, lgt to mod precip central and southern wi and northern il

[tombo82685]

hr 144 1012 low over cincy, lgt to mod precip over indiana central and western ohio, strip of mod precip over east central in and west central ohio

[tombo82685]

hr 150 1008 low over charleston wv, lgt to mod precip ohio and w pa, leading edge of precip by hagerstown and just nw of dc

[tombo82685]

1008 low over danville, va, lgt to mod precip pittsburgh to hagerstown to dc, wv and central and western md, leading edge of precip is delaware coast to philly to hazleton

[tombo82685]

hr 162 1004 low off hatteras, lgt to mod precip dc and balt area and delaware, lgt precip holmdel nj to new hope pa to reading to selinsgrove south