OKpowdah Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 Were each of these actual events? Just curious. Also, how does a SWF event look? These are composites of actual events. Specifically, 7 strong A, 6 weak A, 11 strong B, 14 weak B, 5 strong O, 6 weak O. SWFE are essentially the overrunning composites Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamarack Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 Were each of these actual events? Just curious. Also, how does a SWF event look? I'll let others portray the details of SWFE, but the multitude of storms was real. Here's the tally. The Feb. 5-10 events were packed togather, with maybe 12 snowless hours (or less) between storms. 12/3-4...10.7 12/13-14...5.7 12/16-17...9.5 12/19-20...4.1 12/27-28..3.2 12/29.....3.7 12/31.....7.5 1/1-2....12.5 1/14....8.0 1/18....5.5 2/1-2....3.0 2/5....4.0 2/6....5.0 2/7.....5.5.....Edit: The 1.8" on 2/8 was separate event. 2/9-10...6.4 2/13....8.0 2/22....3.0 2/26-27...9.0 3/1....6.0 3/19...3.0 3/28-29...3.7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclonicjunkie Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 Miller A FTW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 These are composites of actual events. Specifically, 7 strong A, 6 weak A, 11 strong B, 14 weak B, 5 strong O, 6 weak O. SWFE are essentially the overrunning composites Thanks Very interesting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 Some classic Miller Bs Jan 22-23, 2005 http://www.meteo.psu.edu/~gadomski/NARR/2005/us0122.php http://www.meteo.psu.edu/~gadomski/NARR/2005/us0123.php Dec 9, 2005 http://www.meteo.psu.edu/~gadomski/NARR/2005/us1209.php Dec 21, 2008 (one of Ray's favorites since being on the boards) http://www.meteo.psu.edu/~gadomski/NARR/2008/us1221.php Mar 31, 1997: http://www.meteo.psu.edu/~gadomski/NARR/1997/us0331.php http://www.meteo.psu.edu/~gadomski/NARR/1997/us0401.php Dec 23, 1997: http://www.meteo.psu.edu/~gadomski/NARR/1997/us1223.php Jan 3, 1996: http://www.meteo.psu.edu/~gadomski/NARR/1996/us0103.php There's a whole bunch more I'm sure I'm missing, but those were some that came to mind quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropopause_Fold Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 good thread. i'm more a miller b fan but either one can bring the goods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROOSTA Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 Right about now I would take a Miler in any form A,B or C or as Ginx would say just as long its not "lite" LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Analog96 Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 Right about now I would take a Miler in any form A,B or C or as Ginx would say just as long its not "lite" LOL Miller C would hit RIC south, you wouldn't want that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 good thread. i'm more a miller b fan but either one can bring the goods. Miller Bs definitely bring it a little better for most of SNE...but yeah, most Miller A's we can get a chunk of, unless its last winter, lol. (though Dec 19 did hit SE SNE very hard). Going through the top 10 snowfalls here, most of them were Miller Bs. I think the exceptions are PDII, Mar 1993 (this is #11 actually), and Feb 1899. Mar 1960 was a bit of a hybrid, but def. not a pure Miller A all the way. The storm that most judge all storms by...Feb 1978...was a Miller B of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKpowdah Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 Here's the "strong" B list for NH 1978-02-06, 2003-12-06, 2001-02-05, 1982-04-06, 1984-03-14, 1988-02-12, 2005-01-23, 1996-12-08, 2008-12-21, 1995-02-04, 2005-12-09 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKpowdah Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 The "weak" B list: 1983-01-16, 1994-01-18, 2005-02-10, 2008-01-14, 1987-01-10, 2007-12-03, 2009-02-22, 2008-03-01, 2008-01-01, 2009-02-18, 2008-12-31, 2008-02-22, 2007-12-13, 2008-01-18, 2009-01-07 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropopause_Fold Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 Miller Bs definitely bring it a little better for most of SNE...but yeah, most Miller A's we can get a chunk of, unless its last winter, lol. (though Dec 19 did hit SE SNE very hard). Going through the top 10 snowfalls here, most of them were Miller Bs. I think the exceptions are PDII, Mar 1993 (this is #11 actually), and Feb 1899. Mar 1960 was a bit of a hybrid, but def. not a pure Miller A all the way. The storm that most judge all storms by...Feb 1978...was a Miller B of course. would be cool to break them down by nesis score just for the fun of it to illustrate how the B event can score kind of crappy on the scale but be a history maker in new england. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amped Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 How to turn a miller B Into a Miller A Looks like a Miller A in 24 Hr intervals. Now look In between. The low over KY is closed off, even more so at mid levels, the rain snow line is is gradual and there is a large area of mixed precip.It's a B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamarack Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 The "weak" B list: 1983-01-16, 1994-01-18, 2005-02-10, 2008-01-14, 1987-01-10, 2007-12-03, 2009-02-22, 2008-03-01, 2008-01-01, 2009-02-18, 2008-12-31, 2008-02-22, 2007-12-13, 2008-01-18, 2009-01-07 I'd argue (mildly) that the boldfaced ones were not weak by the time they got to central Maine, though they may have been for SW NH. (Of course, this post is merely an IMBY opinion!) Effects on central/western Maine: ---1/18/1994: Lots of 10-15" amounts, with sleety snow at 5F, brief icing/RA near BGR that left I-95 almost impassable for a week. ---2/10-12/2005: 15-20"+, with thundersnow. 21" IMBY. ---1/14/2008: Lovely band of 30-35 dbz extending from Sebago thru AUG to upper Penobscot Bay, nearly stationary for about 6 hr of 2"/hr snow. GYX had 15". ---2/22-23/2009: Most foothills stations recorded 20-28". 24.5" IMBY, with 9" in 2:45 and 18" in 7:30. The deformation band triggered its own thread on Eastern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKpowdah Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 I'd argue (mildly) that the boldfaced ones were not weak by the time they got to central Maine, though they may have been for SW NH. (Of course, this post is merely an IMBY opinion!) Effects on central/western Maine: ---1/18/1994: Lots of 10-15" amounts, with sleety snow at 5F, brief icing/RA near BGR that left I-95 almost impassable for a week. ---2/10-12/2005: 15-20"+, with thundersnow. 21" IMBY. ---1/14/2008: Lovely band of 30-35 dbz extending from Sebago thru AUG to upper Penobscot Bay, nearly stationary for about 6 hr of 2"/hr snow. GYX had 15". ---2/22-23/2009: Most foothills stations recorded 20-28". 24.5" IMBY, with 9" in 2:45 and 18" in 7:30. The deformation band triggered its own thread on Eastern. Yeah this is also population weighted so the highest correlation is with snowfall in the SE third of NH. I remember watching the radar with Feb 2009 and thinking, wow those guys are getting pounded! I got pretty screwed in SW NH with that storm. But the band in Maine was awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris L Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 http://www.comet.ucar.edu/presentations/navy97/setframesTWO.html Some great information there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 Miller Bs definitely bring it a little better for most of SNE...but yeah, most Miller A's we can get a chunk of, unless its last winter, lol. (though Dec 19 did hit SE SNE very hard). Going through the top 10 snowfalls here, most of them were Miller Bs. I think the exceptions are PDII, Mar 1993 (this is #11 actually), and Feb 1899. Mar 1960 was a bit of a hybrid, but def. not a pure Miller A all the way. The storm that most judge all storms by...Feb 1978...was a Miller B of course. All but Phil? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkyfork Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 http://journals.ametsoc.org/doi/pdf/10.1175/1520-0469%281946%29003%3C0031%3ACITACR%3E2.0.CO%3B2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BxEngine Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 http://journals.amet...CR%3E2.0.CO%3B2 wow....thanks for that linky Forky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 http://journals.ametsoc.org/doi/pdf/10.1175/1520-0469%281946%29003%3C0031%3ACITACR%3E2.0.CO%3B2 Nice Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalcottWx Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 http://journals.amet...CR%3E2.0.CO%3B2 This is an awesome PDF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 Bump for a good thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 Great thread, speaking of 1899.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 Great thread, speaking of 1899....Easy there. A lot of us are still learning and this has good info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold Miser Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 Easy there. A lot of us are still learning and this has good info Always good info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 Easy there. A lot of us are still learning and this has good infohuh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joey2002 Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 Has SNE gotten any notable Miller A storms in recent years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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