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I don't recall ever having an exit interview, either. Ken couldn't wait to kick me out the door ;)

Those are also a recent addition to the employment world from my experience and generally they are not even "interviews" per say...its more just HR informing you of how your remaining leave time, 401K etc. will be transferred/payed out and so on...even if they are in an interview form I would not say a word about anything I viewed being negative, simply because you don't know if down the road you might have to either go back to that company or be hired by someone who currently works there....and people always remember bad things very well more than they remember good occurrences

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Frankly, I tired of Joe's Tea Party politics a long time ago, which led me to go out and explore other forecasting sites like AmericanWX's forecasting forums. Joe's anti-AGW rants + Fox News and other right-wing media exclusivity + employment in the energy markets ... not quite the appearance of objectivity. And no, I'm not ditching my AccuWX Pro account, of which I am a member from its first days.

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She was on my local Channel 11 in Baltimore for many years as the backup weather person

and boy did i enjoy watching her in HD ;) .

I worked with her for a year at channel 3 in Louisville before she came to Baltimore. We got to watch her in super up close HD :P

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http://www.wheresjoebastardi.com has over 300 unique visits - thanks all! Poll results are interesting -

Have you cancelled your Accuwx Pro subscription? Running about 3 to 1 Yes

Do you think he'll take a full time gig at Fox News? Majority think no.

No reply yet from Joe on my charitable contribution offer but no surprise there, though I'm pretty sure he's aware of the website :) And still no cease and desist notification from Accuwx, always a good thing.

hahahaha this is awesome :popcorn:

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Frankly, I tired of Joe's Tea Party politics a long time ago, which led me to go out and explore other forecasting sites like AmericanWX's forecasting forums. Joe's anti-AGW rants + Fox News and other right-wing media exclusivity + employment in the energy markets ... not quite the appearance of objectivity. And no, I'm not ditching my AccuWX Pro account, of which I am a member from its first days.

You speak of objectivity? How about all these climate scientists that are reaping the rewards of climate-based fear-mongering? There's billions of government dollars in scaring the public. There are also plenty of experts that have asked for their names to be removed from pro-AGW studies as well as scientists that hit roadblocks when they produced anti-AGW research. Joe Bastardi has always been against global warming, and it makes sense that Fox News and right-wing media would put a skilled long-range meteorologist on their outlets to dispel the alarmist propaganda. He's asking the public for a real debate, instead of allowing groups of scientists to produce biased reports that do not include the skepticism of many scientists that recieve little, if any, funding from energy companies. With only 40 years of satelite data and a short amount of time gathering data, I think Bastardi's demands are pretty reasonable.

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Perhaps THIS will shed a little light on the situation. If it's old news or already been stated, I apologize.

Quotes of note:

Before Joe Bastardi would agree to speak with me, he wanted to make one thing perfectly clear. “I am IN NO WAY A TV WEATHER ANCHOR!” he wrote in an e-mail, and you could almost hear the carotid artery throbbing on his neck as he typed. If you’re over the age of 18 and writing in ALL CAPS, it’s obviously something you feel quite strongly about. And if there’s one thing Joe Bastardi feels strongly about, it’s that he doesn’t belong in the company of Al Roker. He is, he reminded me in a subsequent e-mail, a “METEOROLOGIST FIRST AND FOREMOST AND ONE TRYING TO BUILD THE GREATEST LONG RANGE FORECASTING CENTER ON EARTH!”

"Until earlier this week, he was the “Chief Long Range Forecaster” for AccuWeather, a weather-forecasting service based in State College, Pennsylvania. But his bread and butter, he says, are his corporate clients, the names of which he won’t divulge, saying only that he’s “heavily involved in energy. Some of the companies that I work for were very happy that it snowed as much as it did this winter.”

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Joe always claimed that he wasn't in league with the oil companies.

He's always had energy clients. What he has always claimed is he has never issued forecasts with the goal of driving commodity prices in any particular direction.

If he did, that would be a conflict of interest that would make him pretty useless pretty quickly.

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He's always had energy clients. What he has always claimed is he has never issued forecasts with the goal of driving commodity prices in any particular direction.

If he did, that would be a conflict of interest that would make him pretty useless pretty quickly.

During the early to mid 2000's I may have had some doubt about this because he mostly forecasted colder than normal winters and warmer than normal summers in the E US as a whole implying a potential bullish bias. However, even with that, the motivation may have been either the weenie in him, the desire to increase website readers, or else he truly believed what he forecasted based on the factors he analyzed that just happened to favor cold winters and hot summers. Regardless, to his credit over the last few years, JB has clearly been issuing mixed forecasts. Therefore, I no longer have any suspicion about JB trying to influence prices in any one direction.

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Frankly, I tired of Joe's Tea Party politics a long time ago, which led me to go out and explore other forecasting sites like AmericanWX's forecasting forums. Joe's anti-AGW rants + Fox News and other right-wing media exclusivity + employment in the energy markets ... not quite the appearance of objectivity. And no, I'm not ditching my AccuWX Pro account, of which I am a member from its first days.

Is being an AGW skeptic equal to being "Tea Party"?

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During the early to mid 2000's I may have had some doubt about this because he mostly forecasted colder than normal winters and warmer than normal summers in the E US as a whole implying a potential bullish bias. However, even with that, the motivation may have been either the weenie in him, the desire to increase website readers, or else he truly believed what he forecasted based on the factors he analyzed that just happened to favor cold winters and hot summers. Regardless, to his credit over the last few years, JB has clearly been issuing mixed forecasts. Therefore, I no longer have any suspicion about JB trying to influence prices in any one direction.

There really would be no way to prove if he really "believed" what he was forecasting.

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There really would be no way to prove if he really "believed" what he was forecasting.

JB was well aware, because he would write about it, that some people accused him of working for energy clients not by issuing what he believed were accurate long range forecasts but by issuing long range forecasts that would affect commodity prices.

That would be a failed business model, because after a few 'forecasts' designed to drive prices, not be accurate, unless one was just terrible at long range forecasts or lucky with forecasts designed to move prices, people would start to notice the forecasts were junk and wouldn't react to them.

Now, it does appear if multiple plausible options were on the table as far as modelling, say with hurricanes and population centers, JB seemed to lean with the most catastrophic scenario, but that may be an unconcious bias.

Unless he plans a small operation that doesn't do media forecast services, and has only a few employees, it would seem awkward to remain near State College/AccuWeather. I have checked the local big universities down here, none have woman's gymnastics, and his wife is a coach, and as far as I know is happy working for PSU, so he might open a small business that caters to a small sector, longer range forecasts for energy interests and tropical forecasting for refining and offshore producing. Even there, he could be a threat to AccuWeather if he hires a forecaster or two he thinks would be a good fit. Don't know how AccuWeather works, whether someone could give 2 weeks notice and show up at BastardiWx or whatever.

That could be good for AccuWeather employees but bad for Myers, if there is some competition for talent and he has to pay his better forecasters more...

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Now, it does appear if multiple plausible options were on the table as far as modelling, say with hurricanes and population centers, JB seemed to lean with the most catastrophic scenario, but that may be an unconcious bias.

I'd buy that. lol

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JB was well aware, because he would write about it, that some people accused him of working for energy clients not by issuing what he believed were accurate long range forecasts but by issuing long range forecasts that would affect commodity prices.

That would be a failed business model, because after a few 'forecasts' designed to drive prices, not be accurate, unless one was just terrible at long range forecasts or lucky with forecasts designed to move prices, people would start to notice the forecasts were junk and wouldn't react to them.

Now, it does appear if multiple plausible options were on the table as far as modelling, say with hurricanes and population centers, JB seemed to lean with the most catastrophic scenario, but that may be an unconcious bias.

Unless he plans a small operation that doesn't do media forecast services, and has only a few employees, it would seem awkward to remain near State College/AccuWeather. I have checked the local big universities down here, none have woman's gymnastics, and his wife is a coach, and as far as I know is happy working for PSU, so he might open a small business that caters to a small sector, longer range forecasts for energy interests and tropical forecasting for refining and offshore producing. Even there, he could be a threat to AccuWeather if he hires a forecaster or two he thinks would be a good fit. Don't know how AccuWeather works, whether someone could give 2 weeks notice and show up at BastardiWx or whatever.

That could be good for AccuWeather employees but bad for Myers, if there is some competition for talent and he has to pay his better forecasters more...

All I'm saying is there's really no way to prove that a meteorologist is doing that. If the met issues a forecast with sound meteorological reasoning, who can say that he is intentionally forecasting something that he does not believe is going to happen?

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All I'm saying is there's really no way to prove that a meteorologist is doing that. If the met issues a forecast with sound meteorological reasoning, who can say that he is intentionally forecasting something that he does not believe is going to happen?

How is continuously using outliers to predict hurricane tracks "sound meteorological reasoning"? How is using these "forecasts" for the purpose of engaging in a pissing match with the NWS being responsible to the public?

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How is continuously using outliers to predict hurricane tracks "sound meteorological reasoning"? How is using these "forecasts" for the purpose of engaging in a pissing match with the NWS being responsible to the public?

There are definitely certain forecasters, even on this board (who's names I won't mention ;) ) who have a habit of trending toward a solution that they want, and use sound meteorological reasoning to back it up (and I don't mean this in jest at all, the ones I'm thinking of are certainly quite intelligent). The thing of it is, you can often use sound meteorological reasoning to justify a solution you like... which is why our job is often more about probabilities than anything else.

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How is continuously using outliers to predict hurricane tracks "sound meteorological reasoning"? How is using these "forecasts" for the purpose of engaging in a pissing match with the NWS being responsible to the public?

Are/were you a subscriber? There were many times Joe went against extreme solution. Regardless of what he "predicted", he did it with energy and enthusiasm. Too many non subscribers take what is written on the boards to be true without ever having read or watched on a daily basis.

TW

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There are definitely certain forecasters, even on this board (who's names I won't mention ;) ) who have a habit of trending toward a solution that they want, and use sound meteorological reasoning to back it up (and I don't mean this in jest at all, the ones I'm thinking of are certainly quite intelligent). The thing of it is, you can often use sound meteorological reasoning to justify a solution you like... which is why our job is often more about probabilities than anything else.

I believe you just made my point for me. If someone rides the model they like and uses sound meteorological reasoning for it, there is no way to prove that they are intentionally forecasting what they don't think will happen.

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