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Going forward into March


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Well Will is right that it's technically coming in south compared to other guidance again. I suppose we'll see at 00z if this 18z run was the beginning of the NW trend.

Yeah, looks like it hit its furthest south point at 12z.... now starting to come back up. With the 18z NAM well north and 18z GFS a touch north, definitely getting closer to a middle ground track.

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lol, With the best piece of junk model we have

funny things is i wouldn't have confidence in the euro this year if role's were reversed.

this may no make sense but it seems like the little clipper like system that moves E then NE thru SE canada and then has NW winds around the back side present to the North of OUR LOW (as our low approaches us) almost acts like a -NAO in the sense that it acts to push our low a bit more south

seems like that little clipper is a player in the track and our hopes to keep this south?, no and maybe even aid in draining some cooler /dryer air south?

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yeah it has all the makings of a very active/wet stretch where places in VT/NH/ME just get crushed...wouldn't take it to the bank yet but i'd like to be spending sometime in the white mountains. LOL.

hopefully we can cash in on a couple/few as well. we are definitely walking the line in SNE, we just need to get on the right (actually the left) side of it a few times.

storm next week (tue) is almost a carbon copy of friday's storm on the euro.

2007-08.

I should do ok, maybe make a run at Kev, but it will be tought to catch him.

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Welp, one thing is for certain there will be a defined loser and winner in this.

Either the ECM/Ukmet and HPC will look really really good, or really really bad - and there won't be much room for excuse in the matter.

Either the GFS/GGEM will look really really good, or reall really bad - and there won't be much room for excuse in the matter.

That's just it.

You can't lump the GGEM in with the POS GFS... GGEM had a couple of southern runs (yesterday 12z and last night 00z), but today's 12z came a decent bit north and looks almost identical to the 18z NAM.

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funny things is i wouldn't have confidence in the euro this year if role's were reversed.

this may no make sense but it seems like the little clipper like system that moves E then NE thru SE canada and then has NW winds around the back side present to the North of OUR LOW (as our low approaches us) almost acts like a -NAO in the sense that it acts to push our low a bit more south

seems like that little clipper is a player in the track and our hopes to keep this south?, no

Not really i don't think, Its not strong enough to supress the low coming out of the lower ohio valley SE

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Yes it is, I thinks we will see the Euro start making amove over the next couple of runs, Hoping its SE...lol

I really like the 12z GGEM and 18z NAM as a compromise right now... no way this thing ends up as far SE as the GFS, as that would be an absolute failure of the UKMET, EURO, EURO ensembles, GGEM, GGEM ensembles, and NAM. No way all those are wrong in favor of the operational GFS, lol.

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They almost look more west than the OP... which is scary to have the ECMWF ensembles and UKMET so far west.

78hr is a little cooler than the op. Some of the 72hr EC members may not be saturated yet around the 0C 850 contour so it may give a little illusion that it's warmer than the op at that point. The differences are pretty much trivial. There's a juicy 0.50"+ from 72-78hr on the ensemble mean though over much of SNE/S NH/SW ME so there must be some decent confidence for a period of heavy precip.
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I really like the 12z GGEM and 18z NAM as a compromise right now... no way this thing ends up as far SE as the GFS, as that would be an absolute failure of the UKMET, EURO, EURO ensembles, GGEM, GGEM ensembles, and NAM. No way all those are wrong in favor of the operational GFS, lol.

12z GGEM was a nice hit up here for us, I still think it lies in the middle of the west and east outliers as well.......

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I really like the 12z GGEM and 18z NAM as a compromise right now... no way this thing ends up as far SE as the GFS, as that would be an absolute failure of the UKMET, EURO, EURO ensembles, GGEM, GGEM ensembles, and NAM. No way all those are wrong in favor of the operational GFS, lol.

Of course you do..they give you the most snow :hurrbear:

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Of course you do..they give you the most snow :hurrbear:

Haha this is true but I seriously think the 12z GGEM is the way to go... best snow is south of me, north of you. I'm thinking Killington/central Greens through the Whites and back to the ALB area is where the best snow falls.

I thought you were on-board for that solution, too? Or has the GFS peeked your interest?

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I really like the 12z GGEM and 18z NAM as a compromise right now... no way this thing ends up as far SE as the GFS, as that would be an absolute failure of the UKMET, EURO, EURO ensembles, GGEM, GGEM ensembles, and NAM. No way all those are wrong in favor of the operational GFS, lol.

I totally agree with you.

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