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Going forward into March


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  On 2/22/2011 at 12:22 PM, Wx4cast said:

I haven't a clue as to what ensembles they are referring too TBH. I would assume GEFS.

Also IMO the NAM is not like the EC if anything its more towards the OPS GFS on the thermal fields. Thinking colder scenario is the way to go on this system NOT warmer. Yes they'll be some mix up thru WMA and SENY probably to Albany even but nw thru N ot here I think snow will be the rule.

Thanks for the responses Andy and glad you are feeling that way. If it turns out colder and then we get 2 more light-moderate events after Friday, those of us in mine and your areas might be smiling by Tuesday night.

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  On 2/22/2011 at 1:07 PM, mahk_webstah said:

Thanks for the responses Andy and glad you are feeling that way. If it turns out colder and then we get 2 more light-moderate events after Friday, those of us in mine and your areas might be smiling by Tuesday night.

You definitely should keep an eye out.

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  On 2/22/2011 at 12:47 PM, CoastalWx said:

Depends on the model. Euro would probably only be a couple of inches and then ZR and even RA. GFS is too far south for you with 2-4 or 3-5. arrowheadsmiley.png

The GFS ensembles were a good snow for you..maybe like 4-8 or something.

Tkx scooter

Gonna head over to jackson today for some xc skiing.

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  On 2/22/2011 at 1:16 PM, CoastalWx said:

North did fine, but DCA and IAD got less then 1". Definitely less that I thought, and I was conservative.

Yeah, I just skimmed the thread after you mentioned it. Gotta be a b*tch being a snow lover and living in that part of the country. Feast or famine, with famine winning more often than not.

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  On 2/22/2011 at 4:43 AM, Mikehobbyst said:

Worrying about having enough snow to make Frosty or watching him melt the next day is so trivial in the scheme of life. Snow is just frozen water in an array of ice crystal formations that are just part of nature. Snow causes so much excitement and pandemonium as if turd balls were falling from the sky. Think about it.

that's a whole lot of turds :thumbsup:

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Epic battle continues on the ensembles. That NPAC ridge aligns more sw to ne and pokes into the North Pole. That's usually a good delivery of cold into the nrn tier. Big positively tilted trough continues in the Pac NW, but also some very weak ridging over the sw. The + AO/NAO leads to a se ridge and Atlantic ridge which will battle to try to keep storms from going out underneath us. Def a good pattern for the Midwest and potentially NNE, but that's not to say it won't be good here. I actually think it looks good overall, but we could have storms that taint or rain for some.

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Wah-ha-hoow - this could be an epic loss for Dr No... The fact that it has hedged E about 50-100 mi per run across the last 2 cycles, while the GFS is like ...within a quantom tollerance identical regarding Friday's system, is starting to look bad for the doc.

I recall mentioning to Ray that the ECM, albeit stellar over the long haul, did pull down its pants and drop a big turd of an outlook regarding at least one of those big deal storms during the 45 day mega stretch. It is not infallible.

We'll see, but the 00z incredible hyper-accurate GGEM (:wacko:) was a virtual carbon copy of the GFS.

What an increble year of "make a call - RIGHT NOW AZZHOLE", insistance by the pattern at large. Really ...everything physically imaginable to make prognostics less certain has been plaguing the air ways since Christmas.

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  On 2/22/2011 at 1:48 PM, Typhoon Tip said:

Wah-ha-hoow - this could be an epic loss for Dr No... The fact that it has hedged E about 50-100 mi per run across the last 2 cycles, while the GFS is like ...within a quantom tollerance identical regarding Friday's system, is starting to look bad for the doc.

I recall mentioning to Ray that the ECM, albeit stellar over the long haul, did pull down its pants and drop a big turd of an outlook regarding at least one of those big deal storms during the 45 day mega stretch. It is not infallible.

We'll see, but the 00z incredible hyper-accurate GGEM (:wacko:) was a virtual carbon copy of the GFS.

What an increble year of "make a call - RIGHT NOW AZZHOLE", insistance by the pattern at large. Really ...everything physically imaginable to make prognostics less certain has been plaguing the air ways since Christmas.

00z Euro came north and west of the 12z run

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  On 2/22/2011 at 1:48 PM, Typhoon Tip said:

Wah-ha-hoow - this could be an epic loss for Dr No... The fact that it has hedged E about 50-100 mi per run across the last 2 cycles, while the GFS is like ...within a quantom tollerance identical regarding Friday's system, is starting to look bad for the doc.

I recall mentioning to Ray that the ECM, albeit stellar over the long haul, did pull down its pants and drop a big turd of an outlook regarding at least one of those big deal storms during the 45 day mega stretch. It is not infallible.

We'll see, but the 00z incredible hyper-accurate GGEM (:wacko:) was a virtual carbon copy of the GFS.

What an increble year of "make a call - RIGHT NOW AZZHOLE", insistance by the pattern at large. Really ...everything physically imaginable to make prognostics less certain has been plaguing the air ways since Christmas.

i don't know...it looked relatively similar...12z vs 00z.

12z looked like KCAK to KALB (sort of strung out with two centers - one near BGM one near ALB)

00z looked like KCAK to KALB (sort of strung out going from BGM to ALB - maybe slightly west of that)

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  On 2/22/2011 at 2:15 PM, HubbDave said:

Will Dr No be Dr UhOh or Dr Told Ya So

At one point one of these pos models needs to say "Uncle!"

What a tough year to be a pro met

However, as just an observer/fan I can't help but find joy in the occasional inability of the models to handle the complex dynamics of our atmosphere. Nature FTW!

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