Thundersnow12 Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 For the chicago area, you actually have ENE off the lake at this time.. This should turn more east but the cold wind off the lake often hangs up the WF around the area...This usually occurs during the spring though so a heavy precip event is possible... and it will be a battle for precip type too.. was talking to Caplan about this earlier, both were wondering if we stay with frozen precip longer than some think. would much rather have a big sleet even then ice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartyOn Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 Im kinda speechless right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janetjanet998 Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 will for sure be setting my alarm for 4am or so to see where the band is at...not missing this baby SN+ would be my guess.... then a mix as the battle aloft starts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moneyman Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 Really? Looks like on SV they are in the .5-.75 range. Odd, my maps always seem to low though. Anyone care to post FLD and MKE by any chance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo6899 Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 DET...0.81 All Snow Thanks. Just curious what seems to be the top amount and for what location. I would guess in SD somewhere? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeastFromTheEast Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 will for sure be setting my alarm for 4am or so to see where the band is at...not missing this baby Lol same here man. This should be fun hopefully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baroclinic_instability Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 MSP on the euro 0.93 SUN 00Z 20-FEB -4.7 -1.2 1027 68 75 0.00 557 536 SUN 06Z 20-FEB -4.9 -1.3 1024 59 56 0.00 556 537 SUN 12Z 20-FEB -3.7 -3.4 1019 72 53 0.00 554 539 SUN 18Z 20-FEB -2.7 -5.6 1014 77 87 0.11 550 539 MON 00Z 21-FEB -2.6 -8.3 1009 77 99 0.24 545 538 MON 06Z 21-FEB -5.2 -10.9 1010 80 95 0.24 538 530 MON 12Z 21-FEB -7.2 -12.5 1012 79 90 0.15 535 526 MON 18Z 21-FEB -7.0 -13.4 1015 72 91 0.08 533 522 TUE 00Z 22-FEB -7.4 -14.2 1018 79 89 0.10 535 521 TUE 06Z 22-FEB -12.7 -14.6 1022 86 70 0.01 540 524 Yeah that is a little more like it. I was going to say .5-.75 would have taken a miracle to be that dry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 will for sure be setting my alarm for 4am or so to see where the band is at...not missing this baby It's interesting how the band of heavy rains/embedded thunder that passes through here will go on to potentially dump heavy snows on you guys in Chicagoland. Hopefully you guys get in on some heavy snowfall before the WAA wins out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kab2791 Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 ORD: rain FLD: SUN 18Z 20-FEB 0.3 -3.1 1016 79 100 0.11 554 541 MON 00Z 21-FEB -2.8 -6.5 1012 91 97 0.44 551 542 MON 06Z 21-FEB -3.4 -6.9 1010 88 99 0.29 547 539 MON 12Z 21-FEB -4.8 -7.7 1011 83 51 0.10 541 532 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prinsburg_wx Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 Really? Looks like on SV they are in the .5-.75 range. Odd, my maps always seem to low though. Anyone care to post FLD and MKE by any chance? FLD SUN 00Z 20-FEB -4.7 -2.3 1030 68 67 0.00 557 534 SUN 06Z 20-FEB -5.9 -1.0 1028 81 58 0.00 558 536 SUN 12Z 20-FEB -3.8 -0.1 1022 84 84 0.00 556 538 SUN 18Z 20-FEB 0.3 -3.1 1016 79 100 0.11 554 541 MON 00Z 21-FEB -2.8 -6.5 1012 91 97 0.44 551 542 MON 06Z 21-FEB -3.4 -6.9 1010 88 99 0.29 547 539 MON 12Z 21-FEB -4.8 -7.7 1011 83 51 0.10 541 532 MON 18Z 21-FEB -5.1 -8.7 1014 72 56 0.02 540 529 TUE 00Z 22-FEB -5.1 -11.2 1015 72 87 0.02 538 527 TUE 06Z 22-FEB -6.4 -12.5 1019 77 98 0.04 538 523 TUE 12Z 22-FEB -10.0 -10.6 1023 84 89 0.02 542 524 MKE SUN 00Z 20-FEB -5.0 -1.7 1031 77 52 0.00 559 535 SUN 06Z 20-FEB -4.3 -0.2 1028 84 50 0.00 559 538 SUN 12Z 20-FEB -2.1 0.7 1022 83 63 0.00 558 541 SUN 18Z 20-FEB 0.0 -1.0 1015 93 98 0.19 556 544 MON 00Z 21-FEB -0.5 -4.5 1010 94 100 0.31 553 545 MON 06Z 21-FEB -1.9 -3.4 1008 90 98 0.42 550 543 MON 12Z 21-FEB -3.4 -4.2 1010 83 24 0.08 544 536 MON 18Z 21-FEB -3.7 -6.2 1012 77 47 0.02 541 532 TUE 00Z 22-FEB -4.7 -7.0 1014 80 77 0.05 539 529 TUE 06Z 22-FEB -6.1 -10.6 1018 82 85 0.10 538 524 TUE 12Z 22-FEB -7.1 -10.8 1022 80 93 0.08 542 524 TUE 18Z 22-FEB -3.7 -9.4 1026 65 89 0.00 546 527 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thundersnow12 Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 cloud tops continue to cool in IA/IL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 wait wait wait....your sipping the TSSN kool aid now?? lol Hell I am drinking buckets full over here. TSSN TSPL TSFZRA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moneyman Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 Yeah, that says I get 1.05+ QPF while my SV doesn't even have the 1 inch QPF line anywhere close to here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 DET...0.81 All Snow YYZ? I'm going to say we do worse than the 0.31" on the 12z. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago Storm Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 wait wait wait....your sipping the TSSN kool aid now?? lol We'll see... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janetjanet998 Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 about 12 years ago(?) in April parts of Northern IL got a surprise foot of snow overnight in a set up similar to this..Peoria was right on the cut off with close to a foot northern part to less then 2 inches south side convective cooling offset any WAA just north of the warmfront in that case snow and mix precip now being reported over SE IA DVN has fallen to 32 with the dewpoint still 25 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prinsburg_wx Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 YYZ? I'm going to say we do worse than the 0.31" on the 12z. MON 00Z 21-FEB -4.1 -7.9 1019 69 93 0.01 546 532 MON 06Z 21-FEB -6.3 -9.0 1014 86 98 0.18 543 532 MON 12Z 21-FEB -10.3 -10.5 1015 78 27 0.10 542 530 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 We're at 30 right now as the heavy bands of WAA wing precip approach. Definitely gonna get a period of glazing here at onset. We'll be too warm aloft to see sleet or snow, but a brief glazing is in the cards. If we wouldn't have melted off our 18"+ snowpack this could have been a devastating ice storm for this area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 MON 00Z 21-FEB -4.1 -7.9 1019 69 93 0.01 546 532 MON 06Z 21-FEB -6.3 -9.0 1014 86 98 0.18 543 532 MON 12Z 21-FEB -10.3 -10.5 1015 78 27 0.10 542 530 I win, although not by much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 I win, although not by much. Pretty high ratio stuff there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thundersnow12 Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 about 12 years ago(?) in April parts of Northern IL got a surprise foot of snow overnight in a set up similar to this..Peoria was right on the cut off with close to a foot northern part to less then 2 inches south side convective cooling offset any WAA just north of the warmfront in that case snow and mix precip now being reported over SE IA DVN has fallen to 32 with the dewpoint still 25 try and figure out the date lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago Storm Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 ORD: rain RA to FZRA to SN. SUN 18Z 20-FEB 1.4 2.4 1014 91 67 0.22 559 548 MON 00Z 21-FEB 1.3 3.5 1007 96 99 0.26 556 551 MON 06Z 21-FEB 0.0 4.6 1004 95 83 0.40 552 549 MON 12Z 21-FEB -1.5 1.8 1007 90 43 0.10 547 541 MON 18Z 21-FEB -1.5 0.1 1009 83 76 0.01 544 537 TUE 00Z 22-FEB -1.9 -3.3 1011 86 57 0.06 541 532 TUE 06Z 22-FEB -3.4 -9.0 1016 86 71 0.07 539 527 TUE 12Z 22-FEB -5.7 -10.2 1021 84 68 0.03 543 527 TUE 18Z 22-FEB -2.9 -8.8 1025 65 73 0.01 548 529 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wisconsinwx Posted February 20, 2011 Author Share Posted February 20, 2011 Waukesha's current temp is 18, although that is an outlier as most cities in SE Wisconsin are in the mid 20s, approaching their projected lows. I wonder if the low temps are going to drop lower than expected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prinsburg_wx Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 just issued Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toronto4 Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 I win, although not by much. YHM: 0.40" BUF: 0.44" Maybe higher ratios or lake enhancement will help us get into the 4"+ range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 Pretty high ratio stuff there. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 YHM: 0.40" BUF: 0.44" Maybe higher ratios or lake enhancement will help us get into the 4"+ range. It's amazing how difficult it is for us to see a big storm. And by big, I mean 6" or better. We could have the worst snowstorm climo of any locale north of 40n. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thundersnow12 Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 just issued a solid write up MESOSCALE DISCUSSION 0110 NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK 1125 PM CST SAT FEB 19 2011 AREAS AFFECTED...PARTS OF NRN NEB/SRN SD EWD TO SWRN MN/EXTREME NWRN IA CONCERNING...WINTER MIXED PRECIPITATION VALID 200525Z - 201030Z WINTRY PRECIPITATION IS EXPECTED TO DEVELOP NEWD ACROSS NORTH CENTRAL NEB/SOUTH CENTRAL SD BETWEEN 06-09Z...AND THEN EWD INTO SWRN MN AND FAR NWRN IA MAINLY AFTER 09Z. WEAK ELEVATED INSTABILITY WILL SUPPORT THE POTENTIAL FOR TSTMS WHICH WILL INCREASE THE RATE OF FREEZING RAIN AND SLEET. FREEZING RAIN WITH RATES 0.15 INCH PER 3 HOUR SHOULD REMAIN CONFINED TO A 50 MILE WIDE CORRIDOR EXTENDING FROM LOGAN COUNTY NEB TO TURNER COUNTY SD AND THEN EWD INTO FAR NWRN IA AND ADJACENT COUNTIES IN SWRN MN. MODELS SUGGEST AN AREA EXTENDING 60-80 MILES NORTH OF THE FREEZING RAIN SHOULD CONSIST OF PREDOMINANTLY SLEET FROM THE ONSET OF PRECIPITATION THROUGH AT LEAST 12Z. HEAVY SLEET RATES WILL BE POSSIBLE...ESPECIALLY WITH ANY TSTMS THAT DEVELOP. SURFACE THETA/THETAE ANALYSES INDICATED A BAROCLINIC ZONE EXTENDING EWD FROM SERN WY INTO CENTRAL NEB...THEN NEWD TO SWRN/SRN MN AND FAR NWRN/NRN IA. MODELS MAINTAIN THIS BOUNDARY POSITION THROUGH 12Z...WITH THIS FEATURE GENERALLY COINCIDENT WITH THE SURFACE FREEZING LINE. AS SUCH...THIS BOUNDARY WILL BE THE SRN EXTENT OF THE FREEZING RAIN THREAT THROUGH THE OVERNIGHT PERIOD. PERSISTENT/ EXPANDING AREA OF LIGHTNING ACROSS ERN CO AND COOLING CLOUD TOPS PER IR SATELLITE IMAGERY OVER ERN CO INTO WRN/CENTRAL NEB ARE LIKELY INDICATIVE OF THE STRONG DEEP LAYER ASCENT SPREADING NEWD TONIGHT PER A LEAD SHORTWAVE TROUGH OVER CENTRAL CO. AIR MASS MOISTENING IS UNDERWAY ACROSS THE DISCUSSION AREA ATTENDANT TO INCREASING WAA REGIME ALONG NOSE OF STRENGTHENING SRN-CENTRAL PLAINS LLJ AND WITHIN EXIT REGION OF STRONG SWLY UPPER LEVEL JET NOSING INTO THE CENTRAL PLAINS. PRECIPITATION RATES...ALTHOUGH GENERALLY LIGHT AT THE ONSET ACROSS SWRN/CENTRAL NEB...ARE EXPECTED TO INCREASE OVERNIGHT INTO EARLY SUNDAY MORNING AS DEEP LAYER ASCENT BECOMES MAXIMIZED ACROSS THE DISCUSSION AREA PER AFOREMENTIONED EVOLUTION OF MASS FIELDS. FORECAST SOUNDINGS WITHIN THE EXPECTED FREEZING RAIN CORRIDOR SUGGEST A 3-4 DEGREE MAXIMUM INCREASE ABOVE 0 C IN THE 850-700 MB LAYER THROUGH 12Z. THIS WILL BE MORE THAN SUFFICIENT TO SUPPORT FREEZING RAIN...GIVEN SUB-FREEZING SURFACE TEMPERATURES. FARTHER N...VERTICAL THERMAL PROFILES SUPPORT MAINLY SLEET. BY 12Z...AN INCREASE IN LOW LEVEL CAA WILL BE DEVELOPING FROM WNW-ESE ACROSS WRN-CENTRAL NEB AS A SURFACE LOW MOVES INTO FAR SWRN NEB/NWRN KS. THIS TREND MAY SUPPORT A TRANSITION FROM SLEET TO SNOW ACROSS CENTRAL SD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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daddylonglegs Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 Sunday: Snow, possibly mixed with sleet before noon, then snow, possibly mixed with rain and sleet between noon and 5pm, then snow, possibly mixed with freezing rain and sleet after 5pm. The snow could be heavy at times. Some thunder is also possible. High near 34. Breezy, with a east wind between 8 and 17 mph, with gusts as high as 25 mph. Chance of precipitation is 100%. Little or no ice accumulation expected. New snow and sleet accumulation of 4 to 8 inches possible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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