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Return of winter.....let's rock to the records..2/20-25.


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It gonna depend on if we can get a nice little burst of lift in here early tomorrow morning...GFS sounding definitely shows how we could do a bit of damage in a 3 hour window early tomorrow morning...a nice isothermal saturated region in the SGZ

Yeah the GFS has also showed just pathetic amounts of omega throughout the column so we'll see.

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It gonna depend on if we can get a nice little burst of lift in here early tomorrow morning...GFS sounding definitely shows how we could do a bit of damage in a 3 hour window early tomorrow morning...a nice isothermal saturated region in the SGZ

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Almost an identical sounding here.

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Almost an identical sounding here.

You can see the drier air in the lowest 50mb for BOS vs ORH at 12z...that might be an issue between W SNE and E SNE. But if we can get a nice little burst of lift, then it should be snow that accumulates quickly...even if its 1 SM -SN, because snow growth would be perfect. But Ryan mentioned crappy lift...and if it stays very weak, then we might just get the 2 SM -SN that doesn't accumulate well as its not prolific enough to take advantage of the great snow growth conditions in the mid-levels.

That's why we'll have to watch what goes on upstream in central NY later tonight. Might give us an idea.

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Almost an identical sounding here.

Up stream looks nice and the confluence might just ease in time. Noticed a definite change in antecedent air around 6. Hoping for a nice bust, precip seems further north than progged by about 50 miles, hopefully that keeps going. Not expecting more than 4 but any snow is good snow and anyway it gon snow.

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0z RUC looks great on the composite radar and much better than recent runs but it looks really really dry aloft so probably heavy virga...

Awesome Radar! thumbsupsmileyanim.gif

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05z is midnight. Its not going to be snowing within 100 miles of here at midnight I don't think. Anything we get probably won't be until after 3 or 4am.

There will be a lot of virga on the front end as there is currently in NY State.

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0z RUC looks great on the composite radar and much better than recent runs but it looks really really dry aloft so probably heavy virga...

Awesome Radar! thumbsupsmileyanim.gif

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Soundings around ORH axesmiley.png

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There's the initial burst and then it appears a lot of what comes later misses targeting SW CT, SE NY, NNJ where they jackpot.

18z RGEM went even further south, all in all we'll need to see a nice movement and increase of radar returns later on.

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I think Nate gets 4-6 out of this. Kevin 3-6. Ginx also 3-6 but once east of there it drops off. I'm expecting 2-3 and that's with ratios. Will in ORH may get 3-5, Ray may do better vs expected and I hope so given our new bet. SE MA may get screwed but not as bad as NE areas.

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I think Nate gets 4-6 out of this. Kevin 3-6. Ginx also 3-6 but once east of there it drops off. I'm expecting 2-3 and that's with ratios. Will in ORH may get 3-5, Ray may do better vs expected and I hope so given our new bet. SE MA may get screwed but not as bad as NE areas.

I'm thinking a coating to 2" in Boston and here. ORH maybe 1-3". CT is a really tough call, could range from not much more than a dusting/few inches in NE CT to several inches in SW CT. Would like to see the next few hours of returns and also the 0z suite but the RGEM and now 0z RUC are kind of red flags to a more significant event outside of the southern//western part of CT and maybe RI and the hills in western MA

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I think Nate gets 4-6 out of this. Kevin 3-6. Ginx also 3-6 but once east of there it drops off. I'm expecting 2-3 and that's with ratios. Will in ORH may get 3-5, Ray may do better vs expected and I hope so given our new bet. SE MA may get screwed but not as bad as NE areas.

What was your bet?

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I'm thinking a coating to 2" in Boston and here. ORH maybe 1-3". CT is a really tough call, could range from not much more than a dusting/few inches in NE CT to several inches in SW CT.

While I never expected anything huge, I was hoping for a snowy day...holiday for me. Such is life. Work week and a busy one starts Tuesday so interest wanes unless something substantial materializes beyond a GFS pipe dream.

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While I never expected anything huge, I was hoping for a snowy day...holiday for me. Such is life. Work week and a busy one starts Tuesday so interest wanes unless something substantial materializes beyond a GFS pipe dream.

February to me was a disaster as soon as the pattern shifted. I have hopes that March will produce a few more good events. I'd be happy with one, expect 1-2 events..be really happy with 3-4 but also wouldn't be surprised if we're cool/cold but end up with messy/wet storms.

This one for Monday looks terrible on the NAM which is coming in now. Very much like the RGEM which I think took all the other guidance to the woodshed on this one.

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February to me was a disaster as soon as the pattern shifted. I have hopes that March will produce a few more good events. I'd be happy with one, expect 1-2 events..be really happy with 3-4 but also wouldn't be surprised if we're cool/cold but end up with messy/wet storms.

This one for Monday looks terrible on the NAM which is coming in now. Very much like the RGEM which I think took all the other guidance to the woodshed on this one.

I owe you dinner also. Not betting anymore or I'll need Jenny Craig.....lol..

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Double or nothing on dinner Ray (would owe for hitting 90 inches which was my call for him back in Sept) if he got under 6 in his by for the rest of Feb. I took it figuring he'd get 6+.

Well they'll probably be two more shots for snow in February after this small event...the Friday event and then potential on Feb 27-28 right at the end of the month. No guarantee either produces, but those would be your shots to win the bet.

Lets hope the NAM doesn't verify for tomorrow...it doesn't look very exciting.

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what are meso's showing tonite ? messenger? sorry multi tasking so was wondering if someone already looked. SUNY /ARW?

RUC just abandoned the storm at 0z...looks like the 0z NAM which is horrible. The 0z HRRR is horrible compared to say the 21z run for 7z as well. In short the RUC/NAM/HRRR just went all RGEM on us and this is a coating to 2" deal for most aside of CT and maybe a part of RI and western MA.

If this plays out like this, the RGEM is on a heck of a roll inside of 36-42 hours in this particular pattern.

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