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I must be insane for not being on more with this storm on our doorstep. Impressive trend since last night. Meso's scare me but I will ride EURO/NAM/ETA to my death cause they bury me + bob with a foot or more!

Yup

Copious amounts of white gold coming tomorrow

Clouded up fast around noon

Not bad out there either low 30s

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Yup

Copious amounts of white gold coming tomorrow

Clouded up fast around noon

Not bad out there either low 30s

Yeah its very mild this is shortsleeve weather up here.

Whats the timeline for heaviest snow? Im going over to Norwich in VT around 2 to pick up a buddy then down to exeter nh for the night. Should be a very fun treck across the whites via the kanc tomorrow!!!!

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Yeah its very mild this is shortsleeve weather up here.

Whats the timeline for heaviest snow? Im going over to Norwich in VT around 2 to pick up a buddy then down to exeter nh for the night. Should be a very fun treck across the whites via the kanc tomorrow!!!!

No idea on the heaviest

I was thinking mid morning into the afternnon

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Great write up by Ekster, enjoy

FRIDAY/S SYSTEM REMAINS VERY TOUGH TO FORECAST IN TERMS OF WHERETHE PTYPE TRANSITION ZONE WILL BE. OVERALL...MUCH OF THE MODELSUITE HAS TRENDED A TICK SOUTH TODAY...AND THEREFORE SLIGHTLYCOLDER IN THE COLUMN ACROSS MOST OF THE CWA.AS A STRONG SOUTHERN STEAM SHORT WAVE TROUGH APPROACHES FROM THEWEST...SFC LOW PRESSURE WILL DEEPEN AS IT MOVES ACROSS PA AND INTOSOUTHERN NEW ENGLAND FRIDAY. THE LOW WILL LIKELY TRACK SOMEWHERESOUTH OF THE MASS PIKE. THIS WILL LOCK IN RELATIVELY COLD AIR ATTHE SFC FOR MUCH OF THE CWA...EXCEPT FOR PERHAPS THE IMMEDIATECOAST FOR A TIME. HOWEVER...THIS IS A SOUTHWEST FLOW EVENT IN THEMID LEVELS /SWFE/ DUE TO AN OPEN WAVE OR A WEAKLY CLOSED LOWAPPROACHING FROM THE WEST. THIS OPENS UP THE DOOR FOR RELATIVELYWARM AIR TO ADVECT NORTHWARD IN ADVANCE OF THE MID LEVEL TROUGHAXIS. SO EVEN THOUGH THE SFC MAY BE COLD ENOUGH TO SUPPORTSNOW...WARM AIR ALOFT MAY ATTEMPT TO CHANGE THE PTYPE OVER TOSLEET /OR FZRA/ FOR A TIME FOR PARTS OF THE AREA. THIS IS THE HARDPART OF THE FORECAST...IE...HOW FAR NORTH DOES THE WARMER AIRALOFT ADVANCE. STRONG UPWARD OMEGA TENDS TO KEEP THE WARM AIR ATBAY...BUT SOMETIMES NOT COMPLETELY. SO THERE WILL BE A BATTLEGOING ON. RIGHT NOW...WE ARE FOLLOWING THE SLIGHTLY COLDER MODELTREND...AND THIS WILL BE REFLECTED IN OUR SNOWFALL FORECAST...BUTSTILL KEEP MENTION OF SOME SLEET AND FZRA.AFTER REVIEWING THE LATEST MODEL DATA...WE DIDN/T END UP CHANGINGTHE FORECAST MUCH...AND DIDN/T CHANGE THE WARNINGS/ADVISORIES ATALL. WE KEPT THE MENTION OF THE CHANCE OF SLEET OR FZRA IN WITHTHE SNOW /HEAVY AT TIMES/ ACROSS ROUGHLY THE SOUTHEAST HALF OF THECWA...ROUGHLY FROM KLEB TO KWVL AND SOUTH. THIS DUE TO THEAFOREMENTIONED REASONING...IE...SWFE CLIMO.THOUGHT ABOUT UPGRADING PORTIONS OF THE COAST TO A WARNINGTOO...BUT HELD OFF FOR NOW. THIS INCLUDES PORTLAND. WILL CONTINUEWITH HIGH-END ADVISORY THERE...BUT COULD SEE WARNING SNOWS EVENTHERE WITH A PRETTY INTENSE THUMP OF SNOWFALL RATES PRECEDING ANYWARM AIR INTRUSION ALOFT OR AT THE SURFACE. CONFIDENCE NOT QUITEHIGH ENOUGH TO UPGRADE TO WARNING THERE YET. HOWEVER...WILLMENTION THE POSSIBILITY OF HIGHER AMOUNTS IN THE WSW PRODUCT.OTHERWISE...GENERALLY EXPECT AN 8-14 INCH SNOWFALL FOR MUCH OF THEWARNING AREA. OBVIOUSLY...IF WARM AIR INTRUDES FURTHERNORTH...THEN AMOUNTS...ESPECIALLY ACROSS THE SOUTHERN HALF OF THECWA...COULD BE LESS.THIS SHOULD BE A RELATIVELY WET SNOW CLOSER TO THECOAST...ESPECIALLY NEAR ANY TRANSITION ZONE. THIS COULD RESULT INSCT POWER OUTAGES...EVEN IN PORTIONS OF THE INTERIOR. WE ARE NOTEXPECTED A LOT OF FREEZING RAIN OUT OF THIS SYSTEM.HOWEVER...THERE/S A CHANCE FOR A TENTH OR TWO JUST WEST OF THERAIN/SNOW LINE. IF THIS OCCURS IT WOULD PROBABLY SOMEWHERE IN SRNNH OR INTERIOR SOUTHERN ME.SNOWFALL RATES COULD APPROACH 2 INCHES PER HOUR AT TIMES LATERFRIDAY MORNING INTO THE AFTERNOON BEFORE BEFORE ANY CHANGEOVEROCCURS.THOUGHT ABOUT ISSUING A FLOOD WATCH FOR ROCKINGHAM COUNTY NH...BUTCONFIDENCE IN MOSTLY RAIN THERE IS NOT PARTICULARLYHIGH...ESPECIALLY WITH THE 12Z ECMWF GOING COLDER THERE. WILLSTILL HAVE TO WATCH FOR STREET FLOODING IN ROCKINGHAM COUNTY...ANDPERHAPS PARTS OF YORK COUNTY.AS FAR AS WINDS GO...COULD GET GUSTY FROM THE NORTHEAST FOR A TIMEFRIDAY AFTERNOON...BUT STRONGEST WINDS WILL BE IN THE WAKE OF THESYSTEM FRIDAY NIGHT.

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Great write up by Ekster, enjoy

FRIDAY/S SYSTEM REMAINS VERY TOUGH TO FORECAST IN TERMS OF WHERETHE PTYPE TRANSITION ZONE WILL BE. OVERALL...MUCH OF THE MODELSUITE HAS TRENDED A TICK SOUTH TODAY...AND THEREFORE SLIGHTLYCOLDER IN THE COLUMN ACROSS MOST OF THE CWA.AS A STRONG SOUTHERN STEAM SHORT WAVE TROUGH APPROACHES FROM THEWEST...SFC LOW PRESSURE WILL DEEPEN AS IT MOVES ACROSS PA AND INTOSOUTHERN NEW ENGLAND FRIDAY. THE LOW WILL LIKELY TRACK SOMEWHERESOUTH OF THE MASS PIKE. THIS WILL LOCK IN RELATIVELY COLD AIR ATTHE SFC FOR MUCH OF THE CWA...EXCEPT FOR PERHAPS THE IMMEDIATECOAST FOR A TIME. HOWEVER...THIS IS A SOUTHWEST FLOW EVENT IN THEMID LEVELS /SWFE/ DUE TO AN OPEN WAVE OR A WEAKLY CLOSED LOWAPPROACHING FROM THE WEST. THIS OPENS UP THE DOOR FOR RELATIVELYWARM AIR TO ADVECT NORTHWARD IN ADVANCE OF THE MID LEVEL TROUGHAXIS. SO EVEN THOUGH THE SFC MAY BE COLD ENOUGH TO SUPPORTSNOW...WARM AIR ALOFT MAY ATTEMPT TO CHANGE THE PTYPE OVER TOSLEET /OR FZRA/ FOR A TIME FOR PARTS OF THE AREA. THIS IS THE HARDPART OF THE FORECAST...IE...HOW FAR NORTH DOES THE WARMER AIRALOFT ADVANCE. STRONG UPWARD OMEGA TENDS TO KEEP THE WARM AIR ATBAY...BUT SOMETIMES NOT COMPLETELY. SO THERE WILL BE A BATTLEGOING ON. RIGHT NOW...WE ARE FOLLOWING THE SLIGHTLY COLDER MODELTREND...AND THIS WILL BE REFLECTED IN OUR SNOWFALL FORECAST...BUTSTILL KEEP MENTION OF SOME SLEET AND FZRA.AFTER REVIEWING THE LATEST MODEL DATA...WE DIDN/T END UP CHANGINGTHE FORECAST MUCH...AND DIDN/T CHANGE THE WARNINGS/ADVISORIES ATALL. WE KEPT THE MENTION OF THE CHANCE OF SLEET OR FZRA IN WITHTHE SNOW /HEAVY AT TIMES/ ACROSS ROUGHLY THE SOUTHEAST HALF OF THECWA...ROUGHLY FROM KLEB TO KWVL AND SOUTH. THIS DUE TO THEAFOREMENTIONED REASONING...IE...SWFE CLIMO.THOUGHT ABOUT UPGRADING PORTIONS OF THE COAST TO A WARNINGTOO...BUT HELD OFF FOR NOW. THIS INCLUDES PORTLAND. WILL CONTINUEWITH HIGH-END ADVISORY THERE...BUT COULD SEE WARNING SNOWS EVENTHERE WITH A PRETTY INTENSE THUMP OF SNOWFALL RATES PRECEDING ANYWARM AIR INTRUSION ALOFT OR AT THE SURFACE. CONFIDENCE NOT QUITEHIGH ENOUGH TO UPGRADE TO WARNING THERE YET. HOWEVER...WILLMENTION THE POSSIBILITY OF HIGHER AMOUNTS IN THE WSW PRODUCT.OTHERWISE...GENERALLY EXPECT AN 8-14 INCH SNOWFALL FOR MUCH OF THEWARNING AREA. OBVIOUSLY...IF WARM AIR INTRUDES FURTHERNORTH...THEN AMOUNTS...ESPECIALLY ACROSS THE SOUTHERN HALF OF THECWA...COULD BE LESS.THIS SHOULD BE A RELATIVELY WET SNOW CLOSER TO THECOAST...ESPECIALLY NEAR ANY TRANSITION ZONE. THIS COULD RESULT INSCT POWER OUTAGES...EVEN IN PORTIONS OF THE INTERIOR. WE ARE NOTEXPECTED A LOT OF FREEZING RAIN OUT OF THIS SYSTEM.HOWEVER...THERE/S A CHANCE FOR A TENTH OR TWO JUST WEST OF THERAIN/SNOW LINE. IF THIS OCCURS IT WOULD PROBABLY SOMEWHERE IN SRNNH OR INTERIOR SOUTHERN ME.SNOWFALL RATES COULD APPROACH 2 INCHES PER HOUR AT TIMES LATERFRIDAY MORNING INTO THE AFTERNOON BEFORE BEFORE ANY CHANGEOVEROCCURS.THOUGHT ABOUT ISSUING A FLOOD WATCH FOR ROCKINGHAM COUNTY NH...BUTCONFIDENCE IN MOSTLY RAIN THERE IS NOT PARTICULARLYHIGH...ESPECIALLY WITH THE 12Z ECMWF GOING COLDER THERE. WILLSTILL HAVE TO WATCH FOR STREET FLOODING IN ROCKINGHAM COUNTY...ANDPERHAPS PARTS OF YORK COUNTY.AS FAR AS WINDS GO...COULD GET GUSTY FROM THE NORTHEAST FOR A TIMEFRIDAY AFTERNOON...BUT STRONGEST WINDS WILL BE IN THE WAKE OF THESYSTEM FRIDAY NIGHT.

Was just getting ready to post that but you beat me to it, Great right up Eck..... :snowman:

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It looks good at first glance for you and Jay. Nice disco from Mike. The one thing I like about this, is that there appears to be a nice comma head near or maybe just north of you. That's gonna dump on the foothills.

I was thinking just n & w of here would be the jackpot.

Mikes disco spells it all out perfectly.

You can never be 100% sure with these types of events.

Always hedge your thoughts but put your best educated guess.

All I know is someone within 20-30mi radius of me is going to get hammered.

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Yeah its very mild this is shortsleeve weather up here.

Whats the timeline for heaviest snow? Im going over to Norwich in VT around 2 to pick up a buddy then down to exeter nh for the night. Should be a very fun treck across the whites via the kanc tomorrow!!!!

Oh man that is going to be one helluva tough drive... that's about the time when most of VT and NH will be ripping 1-2"/hr.

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