Peter M Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 This is a press release from the National Snow and Ice Data Center (NSIDC), which is part of the Cooperative Institute for Research in Environmental Sciences at the University of Colorado at Boulder. One- to two-thirds of Earth’s permafrost will disappear by 2200, unleashing vast quantities of carbon into the atmosphere, says a study by researchers at the Cooperative Institute for Research in Environmental Sciences (CIRES) National Snow and Ice Data Center (NSIDC). “The amount of carbon released is equivalent to half the amount of carbon that has been released into the atmosphere since the dawn of the industrial age,” said NSIDC scientist Kevin Schaefer. “That is a lot of carbon.” http://nsidc.org/news/press/20110216_permafrost.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salbers Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 Any signal of this here? Maybe over time... http://www.esrl.noaa.../carbontracker/ http://www.esrl.noaa.gov/gmd/ccgg/carbontracker/fluxmaps.php?region=glb&average=longterm#imagetable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoosierwx Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 Funny how they are a little fuzzy about how much permafrost may melt but give hard numbers to the amount of carbon that will be released. This is the kind of slanted reporting of studies that does not help those wanting to sway people's opinion. If you are saying your cause may be off by half then so must be your effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stellarfun Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 abstract here, but not full text http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1600-0889.2011.00527.x/abstract this is for carbon dioxide, permafrost melting would also release huge amounts of methane. not clear whether the carbon reflects released methane being converted to CO2 over time, or just the result from direct release of CO2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salbers Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 Funny how they are a little fuzzy about how much permafrost may melt but give hard numbers to the amount of carbon that will be released. This is the kind of slanted reporting of studies that does not help those wanting to sway people's opinion. If you are saying your cause may be off by half then so must be your effect. It looks like they are mentioning the uncertainty in the released carbon (the "effect")........ 'The scientists used a model to predict how much carbon the thawing will release. They estimate an extra 190 plus or minus 64 gigatons of carbon will enter the atmosphere by 2200—about one-fifth the total amount of carbon currently in the atmosphere today. Carbon emissions from thawing permafrost will require greater reductions in fossil fuel emissions, to limit the atmospheric carbon dioxide to some maximum value associated with a target climate, Schaefer said. “It means the problem is getting more and more difficult all the time,” he said. “It is hard enough to reduce the emissions in any case, but now we saying that we have to reduce it even more.” ' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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