Stebo Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 These models are a freaking joke. 6z nam now stays warm all the way up to mansfield. I'm done. Whatever happens, happens. It is obvious that the models just suck. Period. We won't know what's going to happen until the runs before it hits. Just a joke. As I stated in the other thread, I would be leery of any solution shown for the 2nd system if the 1st one is depicted strong, because the amount of confluence left behind the first system plus the minimal amount of wave seperation would be very limiting for the 2nd system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dilly84 Posted February 19, 2011 Author Share Posted February 19, 2011 lol, really Dilly? Why won't you wait until the first storm goes through. My god, they aren't going to be perfect and consistent 70+ hours out. Yea really. They can't even figure out which system is the stronger of the two. Just keep flip flopping. Aside that I wasn't in your storm thread commenting was I? And yes long range models should be consistant 2 days out, they should at least have a handle on track, etc. You can worship em all ya want. I'm entitled to my opinion and my opinion is, that for the past 3 weeks the models have sucked when it comes to storms. Couldn't even get the last ones right 6hrs out. Need I remind you of the last 2 snows? They have been horrendous. Period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 Yea really. They can't even figure out which system is the stronger of the two. Just keep flip flopping. Aside that I wasn't in your storm thread commenting was I? And yes long range models should be consistant 2 days out, they should at least have a handle on track, etc. You can worship em all ya want. I'm entitled to my opinion and my opinion is, that for the past 3 weeks the models have sucked when it comes to storms. Couldn't even get the last ones right 6hrs out. Need I remind you of the last 2 snows? They have been horrendous. Period. No offense but they have only sucked for Ohio, the rest of the area has been modeled fairly well actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 LOL @ Cleveland. Story of the winter! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmaxweather Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 I'm going to remain in silent mode here..... Models are a pain in the ass right now. I hope the 12z/00z run we will see some aggrement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEOH Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 LOL @ Cleveland. Story of the winter! Story of the winter is right. I have no hope of seeing any snow from this so anything more than 0 is a bonus. Messy set-up for sure. I have a hard time believing parts of Erie county and WNY see 16+ while just 3 counties away sees nothing... but it wouldn't surprise me. Central lake erie always seems to be the target for the rn/sn line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEOH Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 GFS is even better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckeye Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 As I stated in the other thread, I would be leery of any solution shown for the 2nd system if the 1st one is depicted strong, because the amount of confluence left behind the first system plus the minimal amount of wave seperation would be very limiting for the 2nd system. this was my original thought as well. The first storm could really dampen out the second storm if the first is strong. I'd be surprised if anyone ended up with snow on snow or rain on rain with 1 and 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmaxweather Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 We will see what happens but here comes the NAM.... I think we have better shots of snow after next weekend.....The cold should come back and lay the ground work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmaxweather Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 NAM isn't looking hot Pretty much a disaster for all of Ohio.... To warm and south LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayPSU Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 NAM isn't looking hot Pretty much a disaster for all of Ohio.... To warm and south LOL Looks like the GFS. Pretty much destroys the 2nd wave. Figures, the only time the GFS ever leads a coup is when it means screwing us over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dilly84 Posted February 19, 2011 Author Share Posted February 19, 2011 Looks like the GFS. Pretty much destroys the 2nd wave. Figures, the only time the GFS ever leads a coup is when it means screwing us over. Yep. Ohio gets screwed again. See what the gem and euro have. Id rather have the gem/euro over the gfs/nam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Madmaxweather Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 Soon we may all be losers! again! But hey maybe some Severe Weather could be in the offering at the end of the week. I am still going to give this thing 24 more hours because the models still do not have a good consensus but one thing I don't like them aggreing on is the lack of cold air. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxdudemike Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 Maybe a tiny bit of frozen something at the end, but not much. Cold air is just too late at CMH MON 18Z 21-FEB 2.1 4.3 1008 94 89 0.33 554 547 TUE 00Z 22-FEB 0.8 1.4 1009 96 100 0.48 553 546 TUE 06Z 22-FEB -0.2 1.1 1010 89 68 0.27 547 540 TUE 12Z 22-FEB -2.5 -1.7 1014 82 45 0.01 546 535 TUE 18Z 22-FEB -1.3 -5.7 1019 75 42 0.02 549 534 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmaxweather Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 EURO for most of us is good ol rain... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dilly84 Posted February 19, 2011 Author Share Posted February 19, 2011 Worst. Winter. Ever. Just horrible. Everything looked good yesterday, now we get moisture, but the cold air is late. So we go from rain to 10min of light snow to cold. Bring on the spring. I'm done with the warm wet/cold dry crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dilly84 Posted February 19, 2011 Author Share Posted February 19, 2011 I won't give up yet. Most of the models are so close on temps. A 1 -2 degree difference means the difference of heavy rain or heavy snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IWXwx Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 Worst. Winter. Ever. Just horrible. Everything looked good yesterday, now we get moisture, but the cold air is late. So we go from rain to 10min of light snow to cold. Bring on the spring. I'm done with the warm wet/cold dry crap. I won't give up yet. Most of the models are so close on temps. A 1 -2 degree difference means the difference of heavy rain or heavy snow. I lol'ed. You flop as much as the models. Seriously, I feel your pain. My area was right on the snow/sleet/ice line for the blizzard storm and I've been right on the edge of the heavier snows for the numerous hybrid clipper systems earlier in the winter. It can get kind of frustrating knowing you are going to be right on line so far ahead of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dilly84 Posted February 19, 2011 Author Share Posted February 19, 2011 I lol'ed. You flop as much as the models. Seriously, I feel your pain. My area was right on the snow/sleet/ice line for the blizzard storm and I've been right on the edge of the heavier snows for the numerous hybrid clipper systems earlier in the winter. It can get kind of frustrating knowing you are going to be right on line so far ahead of time. Don't believe I said I gave up in the first post. But its more frustrating when they show heavy snow only to flop to rain so close to start time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEOH Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 I won't give up yet. Most of the models are so close on temps. A 1 -2 degree difference means the difference of heavy rain or heavy snow. Back away from the ledge Dilly. It's just not OH's year for synoptic storms... rarely is for that matter. You folk's in Central OH will soon be basking in 60 - 70 degree warmth while up by lake shore we will have a stiff NE wind with temp in the mid 40's. The book has been written on this winter. Don't get too upset about it. Like Cleveland sports teams... there's always next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 Back away from the ledge Dilly. It's just not OH's year for synoptic storms... rarely is for that matter. You folk's in Central OH will soon be basking in 60 - 70 degree warmth while up by lake shore we will have a stiff NE wind with temp in the mid 40's. The book has been written on this winter. Don't get too upset about it. Like Cleveland sports teams... there's always next year. Honestly..I am ready for spring!! If it's not going to be a decent storm..please bring on spring!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dilly84 Posted February 20, 2011 Author Share Posted February 20, 2011 Back away from the ledge Dilly. It's just not OH's year for synoptic storms... rarely is for that matter. You folk's in Central OH will soon be basking in 60 - 70 degree warmth while up by lake shore we will have a stiff NE wind with temp in the mid 40's. The book has been written on this winter. Don't get too upset about it. Like Cleveland sports teams... there's always next year. I know all about that. I'm a browns, cavs and indians fan lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paweatherguy1 Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 Nam is going to he south.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paweatherguy1 Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 Omg...epic fail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dilly84 Posted February 20, 2011 Author Share Posted February 20, 2011 Game over. Gfs stays at 6 on the 2m temps when heaviest falls. A whopping .35. Just unreal how pitiful the models were. At least my prediction from Feb 7th will still be correct. Oh well. Ohio winters have and will always suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmaxweather Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 This is why I never got excited about this one. Its going south but God darn there is no freakin cold air. Looks like we warm up again mid to late week and maybe we get something out of the cannon the first week of March. Time to kick the bucket on the Buckeye Special... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dilly84 Posted February 20, 2011 Author Share Posted February 20, 2011 Well its official. Euro is above freezing. I think it is probably a lock. Euro is still close on temps, but I think the writing it on the wall.. sad. Just sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxdudemike Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 Fail on this one and the next system looks to be too far south for severe weather but too far north for frozen precip. I HATE that. Just a batch of rain....How sucky. Guess we need it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dilly84 Posted February 20, 2011 Author Share Posted February 20, 2011 Fail on this one and the next system looks to be too far south for severe weather but too far north for frozen precip. I HATE that. Just a batch of rain....How sucky. Guess we need it Im the biggest winter fanatic you'll meet and im shocked to say it but I want the winter over. Im just done with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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