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Back in the '60s there was a huge display over several nights.....Radio reception (especially shortwave) was disrupted.....

The color displays were incredible!! Motorists were actually pulling off the road to watch!!

You could even hear the "crackling" as the light flickered and swept across the sky!!

The display was vivid enough to cast rainbow shadows.....That strong!!!!

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If we can get one in Texas, I will be absolutely thrilled... however, that remains a low possibility for now.

A C-class flare (or larger) is currently in progress, with a much larger M-class earlier today, so there should be good viewing over a few days! :)

EDIT: Awww, rats, just a B-Class oh well

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I'm not expecting to see anything here, and if I'm reading the maps correctly I need a KP of 6 or 7 to see anything visible around here. What is the best place to get KP forecasts? Not really too knowledgable about predicting this stuff and where to get information...<br><br>From what I can see on http://www.gedds.alaska.edu/auroraforecast/ they are forecasting a quiet aurora forecast for the next 2 days?<br>

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Try : Spaceweather.com for info

I'm not expecting to see anything here, and if I'm reading the maps correctly I need a KP of 6 or 7 to see anything visible around here. What is the best place to get KP forecasts? Not really too knowledgable about predicting this stuff and where to get information...<br><br>From what I can see on http://www.gedds.ala...auroraforecast/ they are forecasting a quiet aurora forecast for the next 2 days?<br>

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It looks like that they are currently thinking G2-G3 range geomagnetic storming will be possible.

http://www.swpc.noaa.gov/

http://www.swpc.noaa...omagneticStorms

Cool stuff. It sounds like if a G2-G3 storm actually occurs, it may be visible as far south as NJ. Of course it is probably way too bright to see anything here, especially on the horizon, but I'll certainly be trying! :lol:

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In 2003 I saw vivid aurora on Long Island and in 2001 or 2002 once in NC! It can happen! In NY I wish I had a long exposure camera because I was on Fire Island at the light house and it was red on one side and green on the other! WOuld have been an amazing shot!

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Cool stuff. It sounds like if a G2-G3 storm actually occurs, it may be visible as far south as NJ. Of course it is probably way too bright to see anything here, especially on the horizon, but I'll certainly be trying! :lol:

Yeah,it has to be a really good display to be visible with all the light pollution around here.

In 2003 I saw vivid aurora on Long Island and in 2001 or 2002 once in NC! It can happen! In NY I wish I had a long exposure camera because I was on Fire Island at the light house and it was red on one side and green on the other! WOuld have been an amazing shot!

I can remember hearing about that after it happened.It's really cool that you actually got to see it here.

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SWPC forecasts the 24 hour A index for Fredricksburg. However, it's the 3 hour ap/Kp index as updated hourly which determines visibility of the aurora. Unless you can read the actual magnetometer traces like I can, the best source of information is the Hourly updates from the Air Force which are posted on the SWPC site. Basically, it's trend forecasting. The other thing to watch is the Total Band the polarity of the Bz as reported on Spaceweather .com. What you want to see is a strong number for the first and a strong negative number for the second. The Gemag storm of October 29-30 2003 was the 5th strongest on record with a Kp of 9

the 3 hour ap hit 400 for a short time and the overall 24 hour A was in the 300 range though not as high as the 388 in March 1989 (400 is the maximum value for either A index). The March 1989 aurora was seen in Hawaii and Central America and the 2003 one in FL and down into Cuba and Puerto Rico with Aurora Australis well into Australia, South Africa and South America. I use the 3 hour data as updated for my aurora alerts based upon past experiences dating back to cycle 19. The intensity definitions and the Categories do not mesh perfectly particularly in the high end of the scales. Intensity uses ap and the Categories are based upon the Kp index. BTW things are currently relatively quiet.

Steve

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SWPC forecasts the 24 hour A index for Fredricksburg. However, it's the 3 hour ap/Kp index as updated hourly which determines visibility of the aurora. Unless you can read the actual magnetometer traces like I can, the best source of information is the Hourly updates from the Air Force which are posted on the SWPC site. Basically, it's trend forecasting. The other thing to watch is the Total Band the polarity of the Bz as reported on Spaceweather .com. What you want to see is a strong number for the first and a strong negative number for the second. The Gemag storm of October 29-30 2003 was the 5th strongest on record with a Kp of 9

the 3 hour ap hit 400 for a short time and the overall 24 hour A was in the 300 range though not as high as the 388 in March 1989 (400 is the maximum value for either A index). The March 1989 aurora was seen in Hawaii and Central America and the 2003 one in FL and down into Cuba and Puerto Rico with Aurora Australis well into Australia, South Africa and South America. I use the 3 hour data as updated for my aurora alerts based upon past experiences dating back to cycle 19. The intensity definitions and the Categories do not mesh perfectly particularly in the high end of the scales. Intensity uses ap and the Categories are based upon the Kp index. BTW things are currently relatively quiet.

Steve

Great information.How good were the displays in Arizona during the stronger events?

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Soon after leaving Anchorage on a night flight to Chicago in October 1978 the sky erupted with towering, wavy curtains blazing every color of the rainbow. The pilot turned on the intercom and said: "folks...as you can see, we have a spectacular show of the northern lights...I'm turning off the cabin lights so you may enjoy it." And so, we flew along with no inside lights!

The show was a thousand times better than any I'd seen from the ground during my year up there (in Alaska.)

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It's underperforming because the Bz is strongly positive (north pointing) which is the wrong polarity for a Gemag storm. Should it swing negative (south pointing) we could get storming but at this point in time I don't expect much more than a G2 event which would mean aurbo only along the northern Border States unless we got a strong substorm.

Steve

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Oct. 2003 was nuts...I "spidered" over the sky in Oswego...so that you can actually see it covering part of the southern sky also. I think that was the biggest magnetic storm since the Montreal blackout in the late 1980s?

The Gemag storm of October 29-30 2003 was the 5th strongest on record. The March 1989 one to which you refer was the 3rd strongest. Number 1 was 1859, 2 was in 1921 and 4 was in 1909. All five had aurorae visible well into the Tropics with 1 and 2 visible to the equator (the 1859 one was visible in Brazil and Venezuela). Ironically, the flare that produced the 2003 CME was not the biggest of the series being only an X17 (3rd strongest)-the flare that occurred on November 4, 2003 was X44 but it's CME missed the Earth (fortunately).

Steve

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