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Winter returns with a vengeance thread


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Met spring has always been a bullsh*t term. Honestly do you ever consider 3/4 a spring day?

No...not usually on March 4. The Meteorological spring, however, beginning on March 1 is not an arbitrary assignment. You are right to question its usefulness, particularly at our latittude, but the issue should be observed this way: The climatological difference between December 1 to March 1 is minor compared to the major jump that happens between March 1 and April 1.

The fact that year to year, more times than not that particular 30 day differential in norms is comparatively much larger indicates seasonal migration takes place in earnest during the entire month of March.

It really is not a BS term when you consider the logic behind the designation of March 1. I do not believe anyone in their right mind thinks that because Meteorological spring has begun, it means all that much on say March 5 - but it most probably does make a big difference as we proceed through the month.

At least ..that's my take on things.

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That video shows it's real . Just deep powder. Is that typically a snowy area?

Some of those areas on the west coast of Japan and the Korean Peninsula get smoked with ocean effect. Messenger wouldn't know what to do with himself if he was there. Those photos that sometimes come across the wire of homes buried and huge paths carved into the snow, come from a province in Japan called Niigata, I believe.

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43F here... just picked up my son who is still sick. norovirus ftl

There is def some melting along the roadways... rte 2 had some water on it.

Driveway is still packed snow/ice as is 95% of my road. It will be good to have that back to pavement as it is a disaster right now

Tuesday BOX has me at a high of 19F.... rollercoaster week, sneaky sneaky rollercoaster

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We need more speed, Mr. Scott!

Up to 39.5/28. Snow in my collection bucket must be melting. APparently I've received .04" of rain today. :)

There have been a few brief showers out there today. Maybe one happened while you were on the toilet?

44.2F... would be cool to see a few flakes in the floodlight after the fropa

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GFS still not buying what the euro is selling for Sunday Night. Wonder if the euro is too bullish with ejecting disturbances from the southwest trough, or is the GFS just suppressing everything right now.

Just my thoughts on the matter, but I don't really have any issue with this. The flow is fast in general, with 582dm heights over the N Gulf, while a new arctic or polar/arctic hybrid suppression cuts into the GL -OV-NE. That means the balanced mid-level wind velocties are going to be hauling some serious ass from the SW right off the MA.... Once that cold lower troposphere loads into 35N and point N, that is going to instantiate (more so than impulse caused...) a generalized powdered overrunning - just add water.

The 850 to 700mb geostropic flow will tend to be uplide the whole way. I think HPC might have even hinted at this ...god I hate this word, ANA type scenario in their prelim dialogues, and I can kind of see where they are going with this. I see us having today and Friday's warm assaults in heavily modified cP air (less real warmth thermodynamically - another reason why people are baffled by the lack of actual runoff taking place at 50F), intervened by Tuesday chill, then a more meaningfull continental-scaled pattern change into a gradient pattern. Probably be sunny, wind, and cold Saturday, and then a big mass of cirrus plummage erupts from the MV/ New England going forward at any rate.

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This is a repost from old thread at another forum... all this talk of humidity/melting made me think of it.

One thing I noticed when living in Tahoe is how the snow would maintain a soft creamy consistency even following multiple freeze-thaws. In NE the same weather seems to produce hardpack.

How much does atmospheric pressure affect the snowpack?

How much does humidity affect the snowpack?

Is the lower pressure and humidity at higher elevations a significant factor in the softer western conditions?

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Until the sun came out melting was at a minimum although occuring, now that the sun is out no issues at all, but seriously who cares? This happens every year except this year there is a substantial snow pack. Its going to melt all week, besides tomorrow, and then its going to snow again, then melt, then snow again.

I for one am enjoying the sun, warmth and break from a fantastic winter, especially knowing that more snow is just around the corner.

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Just my thoughts on the matter, but I don't really have any issue with this. The flow is fast in general, with 582dm heights over the N Gulf, while a new arctic or polar/arctic hybrid suppression cuts into the GL -OV-NE. That means the balanced mid-level wind velocties are going to be hauling some serious ass from the SW right off the MA.... Once that cold lower troposphere loads into 35N and point N, that is going to instantiate (more so than impulse caused...) a generalized powdered overrunning - just add water.

The 850 to 700mb geostropic flow will tend to be uplide the whole way. I think HPC might have even hinted at this ...god I hate this word, ANA type scenario in their prelim dialogues, and I can kind of see where they are going with this. I see us having today and Friday's warm assaults in heavily modified cP air (less real warmth thermodynamically - another reason why people are baffled by the lack of actual runoff taking place at 50F), intervened by Tuesday chill, then a more meaningfull continental-scaled pattern change into a gradient pattern. Probably be sunny, wind, and cold Saturday, and then a big mass of cirrus plummage erupts from the MV/ New England going forward at any rate.

I'm buying what you're selling

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