Typhoon Tip Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 whats the deal with CPC, they not updating the indices anymore? neither agency has been - not since the 11th. i asked this, this morning - someone ought to go to their "contact us" page and dispatch an email Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
free_man Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 It has absolutely no merit outside 96 hours... no real model does, we can just watch trends. I honestly don't really care all that much what happens late in the season, we've had a great run so far. Fresh snow last night, bluebird skies today... at least the brown snowbanks disappeared again. I just want it to snow next week during the Vacation week... huge week for the ski resorts all over the northeast. maybe a 12-24" week? Should be great skiing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Torchey Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 Yea you do not want the folks in Greenwich with their windows and tops down on their Audi/Mercedes/Lamborghinis sunning themselves with their girlfriends wearing flip flops, polo tees and Aero shorts, although East Bay would approve. You seem to have a fetish for Greenwich? cold day here, just reached 30, okx had us right on the button. Somebody is going below zero in ct tonight as these winds slack off and the glacier enhances radiational cooling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 GFS Ens has been steadly moving some insane cold out of the NW territories south into the US. JB and DT are in big trouble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 You seem to have a fetish for Greenwich? cold day here, just reached 30, okx had us right on the button. Somebody is going below zero in ct tonight as these winds slack off and the glacier enhances radiational cooling. Nice place lots of yuppies. Vengeance might be apropos from Sat on out. Nice block on GFS extended ENS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinch Leatherwood Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 Dry fluffy snow compacts and sublimates faster than wet snow though. Melting is just one aspect of snow depth. True but after weeks of falling it's probably compacted quite a bit already. The notion that heavy wet snow lasts longer is not always the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinch Leatherwood Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 GFS Ens has been steadly moving some insane cold out of the NW territories south into the US. JB and DT are in big trouble The GFS has been too cold at 72 hours for 2 months and you're worried about 10 day forecasts on low resolution ensembles? I think so far the last two weeks have played out as DT had said it would despite all the bashing of him as usual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 Hey hey hey... it's time for a song Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinch Leatherwood Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 let's just get to saturday at this point. looks pretty interesting from that time period onward. I think we need a final resolution on where this winter is going today. It seems like people just can't let this pattern play out.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted February 15, 2011 Author Share Posted February 15, 2011 Yesterday versus today Just got back from the berks. Highest point on the Pike is in Beckett I think the sign said of 1724 feet. No more snow up there than here. I don't know. I lost about 2-3 inches yesterday..and I think my snowbanks lost more than the pack somehow. Maybe that's natural? I don't know.. But I have an avg of 27-28 ..Virtually impossible to get the yardstick into the icepack today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 I think we need a final resolution on where this winter is going today. It seems like people just can't let this pattern play out.... Good luck getting it, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
free_man Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 Hey hey hey... it's time for a song Too bad that map is snow, looks like a solid ring of fire T-storms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted February 15, 2011 Author Share Posted February 15, 2011 The higher dew points might work in your favor. NAM has a solid deck of mid and low cloudiness for Fri for BDL-BOS-ORH. It's probably overdoing the low clouds, but given the advection of much higher dew points over the snow pack, advection fog is a distinct possibility Thu night into Fri morning. If there is fog along with higher dews..that is always bad and is the worst snoweater imagineable. The only thing worse I guess would be a roaring SE wind along with the high dews THE NYE and NYD snowmelt disaster was calm with fog and dews near 50...and all of SNE lost all of our snowcover in about 36 hours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropopause_Fold Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 If there is fog along with higher dews..that is always bad and is the worst snoweater imagineable. The only thing worse I guess would be a roaring SE wind along with the high dews THE NYE and NYD snowmelt disaster was calm with fog and dews near 50...and all of SNE lost all of snocover in about 36 hours LOL - i've been wondering if/how you would respond to that post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 The GFS has been too cold at 72 hours for 2 months and you're worried about 10 day forecasts on low resolution ensembles? I think so far the last two weeks have played out as DT had said it would despite all the bashing of him as usual. I have followed the GFS ENS all winter, if you did you would see what you just said is wrong.Who is bashing DT? I said his and JBs call for winter to be finished south of 41 are in trouble. By the way How the snowpack accumulates affects its density (amount of water per unit volume of snow) and texture (crystalline structure). Density increases as the snowpack becomes deeper and the lower layers are compressed. Wetness of the snow also affects density. Compression affects the crystalline structure of the snowpack. Density and crystalline structure affect how fast the snowpack melts and how much water it yields. On unsheltered snowpacks, high winds can evaporate the snow cover at temperatures lower than 32° F -- a process called sublimation. Mountain snowpacks do not melt steadily. Melting varies according to weather, ground temperature, and exposure to the sun's rays. A snowpack begins to melt when its temperature from top to bottom equalizes at 32° F. Before reaching this isothermal state, the snowpack has different temperatures at different depths. Ground temperature, air temperature, and exposure to incoming solar radiation affect how quickly it becomes isothermal. South-facing slopes and open areas receive the most solar radiation and have the highest melt rates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted February 15, 2011 Author Share Posted February 15, 2011 LOL - i've been wondering if/how you would respond to that post. I'm still very worried needless to say. You still think you've got the beers shored up with 8+ left OTG? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 If there is fog along with higher dews..that is always bad and is the worst snoweater imagineable. The only thing worse I guess would be a roaring SE wind along with the high dews THE NYE and NYD snowmelt disaster was calm with fog and dews near 50...and all of SNE lost all of snowcover in about 36 hours I only had about 8" OTG and most of that was Boxing Day fluff/tiny grains. This mass we have is high density, triple cured, diisopolysnobonite magnum. We will still have half of it left. But the fog... ohhhhh the fog... it eats it crys it melts Nearly 7" of water wont evaporate that easily Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Organizing Low Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 Just got back from the berks. Highest point on the Pike is in Beckett I think the sign said of 1724 feet. No more snow up there than here. I don't know. I lost about 2-3 inches yesterday..and I think my snowbanks lost more than the pack somehow. Maybe that's natural? I don't know.. But I have an avg of 27-28 ..Virtually impossible to get the yardstick into the icepack today that always happens. the banks are going to take the biggest beating this week. .....thats always my biggest hate in melts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted February 15, 2011 Author Share Posted February 15, 2011 I only had about 8" OTG and most of that was Boxing Day fluff/tiny grains. This mass we have is high density, triple cured, diisopolysnobonite magnum. We will still have half of it left. But the fog... ohhhhh the fog... it eats it crys it melts Nearly 7" of water wont evaporate that easily I had better not see one blade of grass anywhere within a 3 mile radius of my house. Not until April 15th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted February 15, 2011 Author Share Posted February 15, 2011 that always happens. the banks are going to take the biggest beating this week. What's the reasoning for that? Those are more packed and iced than the snowpack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Torchey Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 Nice place lots of yuppies. Vengeance might be apropos from Sat on out. Nice block on GFS extended ENS Do yuppies still exist? 31 sunny Heavy Heavy Heavy snow and winter on the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 What's the reasoning for that? Those are more packed and iced than the snowpack They absorb more heat...since they are dirty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 I had better not see one blade of grass anywhere within a 3 mile radius of my house. Not until April 15th That's a lot to ask. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Torchey Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 What's the reasoning for that? Those are more packed and iced than the snowpack Salt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Organizing Low Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 What's the reasoning for that? Those are more packed and iced than the snowpack i have no idea Blizz but it pisses me off to no end. im guessing because its not 'nautrally' packed or disrupted from shoveling? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropopause_Fold Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 I'm still very worried needless to say. You still think you've got the beers shored up with 8+ left OTG? yes. i'm looking forward to paying no $ at the next GTG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 I had better not see one blade of grass anywhere within a 3 mile radius of my house. Not until April 15th Might snow a little Friday night... and before you get too hasty, you said it would not snow last night. it did IMBY The 15th might be pushing it. Let's say April 7th for you (downsloping and all) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted February 15, 2011 Author Share Posted February 15, 2011 They absorb more heat...since they are dirty. I actually think the dirt /crap on them protects the snow..You always see those banks of dirty snow lasting longer than ones that aren't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 What's the reasoning for that? Those are more packed and iced than the snowpack Dirty, also any salt on the road can get in there as well. They always take a beating. A lot of surface area exposed to the torch as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted February 15, 2011 Author Share Posted February 15, 2011 yes. i'm looking forward to paying no $ at the next GTG. Would you be willing to go double or nothing for 12+ left OTG? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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