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GL/MW/OV December 2010 disco thread


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-7.1F here and thick CLOUDS ... Weird. Clouds must have just ,moved in... I can see clearing to the east.

No wind again. The NWS has been way off on these overnight temps. They need to look at the GFS a little more. Last night they called for -1F...it was -11F :) Night before the call was -10F and it was -17F... Too bad it wouldn't start snowing now... ratios would be about 100:1. Probably get 20 inches of fluff.

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baroclinic_instability does a nice job of cutting us down in the NE subforum.

Yeah, the discussion produced by CT_Blizz and Weatherwiz is great. They're budding meteorology phenoms. :lol:

That was nice of baroclinic_instability. I notice he doesnt mention that his is as weenie and IMBY as they come. All WE do is say "this model has this, that model has that"? HE is the one that does not appear to discuss anything until a model shows it slamming MN. Then, the following days are hilarious. If the model moves in a favorable direction for MN, you hear about how WELL they are handling the storm, and even the gem that "18z runs being poor is a big misconception". Living so far north, it is no surprise he is a BIG proponent of north trends on models and how correct they are. THEN when they start to shift south, a new tune is sung, just look at the last storm for an example of it all. "They may be shifting ever so slightly south.." when they are actually shifting a decent margin. Or "you can actually see the placement on the initialization is too far south" (funny, I thought the models were handling this storm so WELL?).

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3 or 4 runs in a row the GFS is indicating a more progressive pattern after 300 hours. Could get toasty.

Just in time to melt all the old snow for Chiristmas.

Yay!!! :arrowhead:

Then again, the models have been showing that phantom progressive pattern for weeks now that never materializes once it gets into 180hr.

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That was nice of baroclinic_instability. I notice he doesnt mention that his is as weenie and IMBY as they come. All WE do is say "this model has this, that model has that"? HE is the one that does not appear to discuss anything until a model shows it slamming MN. Then, the following days are hilarious. If the model moves in a favorable direction for MN, you hear about how WELL they are handling the storm, and even the gem that "18z runs being poor is a big misconception". Living so far north, it is no surprise he is a BIG proponent of north trends on models and how correct they are. THEN when they start to shift south, a new tune is sung, just look at the last storm for an example of it all. "They may be shifting ever so slightly south.." when they are actually shifting a decent margin. Or "you can actually see the placement on the initialization is too far south" (funny, I thought the models were handling this storm so WELL?).

What irked me a bit was that he seemed to be implying that member for member, the SNE thread has more sophisticated wx related discussion than we do. That their blue_taggers engage in meanigful analysis, while we just regurgitate what the models say. That I don't agree with at all. I think we do a fine job of analysis, taking into account that most of us are not mets. Certainly no worse than the average SNE member. The difference is, and this is where I kind of see where he's coming from, is that if you're looking for a more technical discussion about the weather, the SNE forum is more attractive because it has at least 5 red taggers who post at least 25 times a day each. So naturally the discussion will be more advanced.

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Roads still a mess from the 6.3" snowstorm 3 days later. Its the 4" heavy wet snow flash-freezing then the 2" of powder drifting. Have seen storms drop twice as much snow with half the road hassle. But its all worth it for a winter wonderland :snowman:

Yup school has been cancelled 2 days in a row. We only had 1 school day a few years back and it snowed 15 inches. One of the few storms I remember where the temps dropped 20 degrees while it was still snowing. Boring pattern right now but it looks like next wekk may be active with wild temperature differences. Need to stop the clipper train and get storms to come into the SW and eject out of the 4 corners or over the rockies. Models do a better job with these storms as they usually require no phasing.

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Interesting sat image (ESA) from yesterday of eastern WI... You can see L Mendota in Madison, Green Lake just to the northeast (deepest natural lake in Wisconsin) and you can also see L Winnebago (which is mostly ice covered now).... Near the shore of L Michigan must be some sort of mixing going on...probably getting ready to freeze solid.

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Kinda sucks that you're going one way, and the squall's going the other way. Looks like Waterloo could do ok tonight.

if Waterloo geta a single flake of LES while I'm away.... Just look out, that's all I'm saying, :P

I'm detecting a trend here, I leave sarnia and they get.a blizzard the next day, then I head to sarnia and the squalls down that way move towards Waterloo... Just can't win

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OT: Can anyone tell me why online users are not showing up at the bottom of my page. This has been like this for the last couple of days. If there's anything I can do to fix this, any help would be appreciated. Thanks.

Back to the weather.

It's not just you. The admins shut it down during active periods so the server isn't taxed. Although it hasn't been continuously down. I saw online users this morning I believe.

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OT: Can anyone tell me why online users are not showing up at the bottom of my page. This has been like this for the last couple of days. If there's anything I can do to fix this, any help would be appreciated. Thanks.

Back to the weather.

not showing up for me either. the board staff may have turned it off to ease the server load.

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