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GL/MW/OV December 2010 disco thread

snowstormcanuck

By snowstormcanuck,
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Ajdos

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Any idea if there is any snow in the Frankenmuth area? I leave for a short 3 day vacation up there next Monday-Wednesday. Every time I've ever gone there has been snow on the ground, so I can't imagine going with a bare ground :(

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I LOVE FRANKENMUTH :).. WHen ever I go up there, i feel so home LOL..

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Stebo

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you get like .50+ But yeah like central and even down towards flora get nailed on through a lot of ohio.. St Louis gets like 2" but some of that might be mixed to start.. This could be Indy's big storm I was feeling during summer.

How about some love for SE MI?

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WFO Downsview is forecasting up to 2 feet of lake effect for those in the traditional snow belt... sadly there is about a 20km bubble around me where the snowsqualls die... but hoping at least one or two squalls will make it this far. 

A STRENGTHENING STORM SYSTEM OVER THE MARITIMES AND A LARGE ARCTIC
HIGH PRESSURE RIDGE OVER THE PRAIRIES WILL CREATE THE INGREDIENTS FOR
THE FIRST REAL WINTERLIKE WEATHER ACROSS MANY PARTS OF SOUTHERN
ONTARIO.  WORDS SUCH AS WIND CHILL AND SNOW SQUALLS WILL CROSS MANY
PEOPLE'S LIPS OVER THE NEXT FEW DAYS, AS OLD MAN WINTER STRIVES TO
FLUSH OUT THE REMNANTS OF AUTUMN.

BRISK NORTHWEST WINDS OF 30 TO 50 KM/H WITH THE ODD GUST TO 60 WILL
AFFECT MUCH OF THE REGION FOR SEVERAL DAYS BEGINNING SUNDAY.
THE MERCURY WILL STRUGGLE TO REACH MINUS 2 IN MANY AREAS WITH CHILL
VALUES HOVERING AROUND MINUS 10.  THESE WINDS WILL DELIVER MORE
CONCENTRATED SNOW SQUALLS IN SOME OF THE MORE TRADITIONAL SNOW BELTS
AS WELL.  REGIONS NEAR AND TO THE SOUTHEAST OF BOTH COLLINGWOOD AND
GRAND BEND WILL BE ON THE RECEIVING END OF SIZEABLE SNOWFALL AMOUNTS
OVER THE COMING DAYS.  TOTAL ACCUMULATIONS IN EXCESS OF 60 CM ARE
QUITE LIKELY BY TUESDAY OR WEDNESDAY.  SNOW SQUALL WATCHES ARE IN
EFFECT FOR THESE REGIONS AND WILL BE UPGRADED TO WARNINGS AS
REQUIRED.

THE GREATER TORONTO AREA WILL ALSO LIKELY BE ON THE RECEIVING END OF
ITS FIRST ENDURING SNOWFALL OF THE SEASON.  THE GEORGIAN BAY SNOW
SQUALL IS EXPECTED TO STRETCH DOWN TO THE TORONTO REGION SUNDAY
AFTERNOON AND OSCILLATE ACROSS THE CITY SUNDAY NIGHT AND MONDAY.
ALTHOUGH NO SERIOUS ACCUMULATIONS ARE EXPECTED DUE TO THE WANDERING
NATURE OF THE SNOW BAND, SEVERAL CENTIMETRES ARE LIKELY OVER THE
COURSE OF THE NEXT FEW DAYS, ALONG WITH LOCAL BLOWING SNOW AND
REDUCED VISIBILITIES AT TIMES.

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jhamps10

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you get like .50+ But yeah like central and even down towards flora get nailed on through a lot of ohio.. St Louis gets like 2" but some of that might be mixed to start.. This could be Indy's big storm I was feeling during summer.

yeah that euro looked golden for down here from what I was able to discern. even if it does start as a mix (Flora is on the same latitude as STL for any outsiders) I for one would like a big big big storm next weekend (I'd like a biggie so that finals would be cancelled, at least part of them anyway)

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Hoosier

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you get like .50+ But yeah like central and even down towards flora get nailed on through a lot of ohio.. St Louis gets like 2" but some of that might be mixed to start.. This could be Indy's big storm I was feeling during summer.

Wow, impressive on this run. Bad news, pretty much nowhere to go but down. :(

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cmichweather

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the second i saw the euro i came over here, those god damn easterners are gonna get another monster. The problem with this storm is that stupid block and that huge ridge on the west coast, it really is inevitable i could see it cutting inland when the wavelengths shorten and this thing goes negative and phases but damn..... truthfully i hate when the east coast gets these monsters.

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cmichweather

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at least some of the eastern members of the central midwest group get it on the action, problem is that this isn't part of some ripping stj that can do the northwest trend this is more of a squeeze between the block and that ridge out west its a pretty classic signal at this time for a bomb in the northeast unless the ridges are modeled 2 strong in the west or over greenland.

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at least some of the eastern members of the central midwest group get it on the action, problem is that this isn't part of some ripping stj that can do the northwest trend this is more of a squeeze between the block and that ridge out west its a pretty classic signal at this time for a bomb in the northeast unless the ridges are modeled 2 strong in the west or over greenland.

The NAO is going towards neutral ( I think) during this timeframe so I would assume the block would ease. At the least, going to be interesting the next couple weeks.

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Ajdos

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the second i saw the euro i came over here, those god damn easterners are gonna get another monster. The problem with this storm is that stupid block and that huge ridge on the west coast, it really is inevitable i could see it cutting inland when the wavelengths shorten and this thing goes negative and phases but damn..... truthfully i hate when the east coast gets these monsters.

I know man..

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the second i saw the euro i came over here, those god damn easterners are gonna get another monster. The problem with this storm is that stupid block and that huge ridge on the west coast, it really is inevitable i could see it cutting inland when the wavelengths shorten and this thing goes negative and phases but damn..... truthfully i hate when the east coast gets these monsters.

Pretty much all rain for the east coast with a ripping SE wind.. To far out to care about details right now though.

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the second i saw the euro i came over here, those god damn easterners are gonna get another monster. The problem with this storm is that stupid block and that huge ridge on the west coast, it really is inevitable i could see it cutting inland when the wavelengths shorten and this thing goes negative and phases but damn..... truthfully i hate when the east coast gets these monsters.

I don't think it will be as East as the GFS, the Euro and GGEM for what its worth would be good hits for most of the midwest. And I'm with Bow on this one. Its going to be rain for the big cities.

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cmichweather

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I don't think it will be as East as the GFS, the Euro and GGEM for what its worth would be good hits for most of the midwest. And I'm with Bow on this one. Its going to be rain for the big cities.

with how the pacific is setting up i think it'll be hard to get the storm to cut even as far west as it is now. i think the best chance for snow is the clipper which should give us a decent snow pack north of the last pacific hybrid clipper. i hate to admit it but this is def. an eastern blizzard/ or inland bomb. we'll see though if the pacific ridge isn't as strong it may cut up west of the apps.

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with how the pacific is setting up i think it'll be hard to get the storm to cut even as far west as it is now. i think the best chance for snow is the clipper which should give us a decent snow pack north of the last pacific hybrid clipper. i hate to admit it but this is def. an eastern blizzard/ or inland bomb. we'll see though if the pacific ridge isn't as strong it may cut up west of the apps.

GGEM is flatter with the ridge, also with the first clipper moving off the coast there should be shortwave ridging behind it. We both know the tendencies of the GFS to lock into a pattern and be slow to break it down.

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cmichweather

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GGEM is flatter with the ridge, also with the first clipper moving off the coast there should be shortwave ridging behind it. We both know the tendencies of the GFS to lock into a pattern and be slow to break it down.

oh i know the gfs tends to lock in early, i just think that the pv is going to be further south than what the ggem has (based on how the euro has had it digging further south) and that the ridging in the west with the GOA low is just going to be a text book NE SECS with the block orientated how it is. we'll see though, i just thought it was a matter of time til the models locked in on this eastern threat based on the blocking pattern over greenland and how the pacific was setting up, at least we have the clipper to track.

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cmichweather

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oh i know the gfs tends to lock in early, i just think that the pv is going to be further south than what the ggem has (based on how the euro has had it digging further south) and that the ridging in the west with the GOA low is just going to be a text book NE SECS with the block orientated how it is. we'll see though, i just thought it was a matter of time til the models locked in on this eastern threat based on the blocking pattern over greenland and how the pacific was setting up, at least we have the clipper to track.

we'll see though i know it sounds like i've thrown in the towel but if the pacific ridge isn't as strong i could see a large overrunning event targeting the southern midwest/lakes.

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we'll see though i know it sounds like i've thrown in the towel but if the pacific ridge isn't as strong i could see a large overrunning event targeting the southern midwest/lakes.

I'd argue that would probably be the case at the very least, I'd be hard pressed to buy in us missing this entirely.

The only way we end up in major trouble is if there is no ridging between the first clipper and this system.

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IWXwx

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Although the setup has differences, given the overall look of the storm and amount of precip, the Euro would probably rival the Valentine's storm here. Man, why did I have to see this run.

Oh Hoosier, why did you have to say that? Now I have to look and end up spending all week fretting over it.

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