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GL/MW/OV December 2010 disco thread


snowstormcanuck

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0z GGEM. wub.gif

Thanks Tim! I woke up this morning needing something to smile about. Looks like the GGEM pushes the block just enough to the east to allow a phase with a southern s/w and a northern s/w dropping down the backside of the cutoff low. Beauty thing is that just enough blocking remains so this thing doesn't cut west/flood us with warmth.

GGEM's on its own but with Nina climo I'm going to say it's solution is the frontrunner :weenie:

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Thanks Tim! I woke up this morning needing something to smile about. Looks like the GGEM pushes the block just enough to the east to allow a phase with a southern s/w and a northern s/w dropping down the backside of the cutoff low. Beauty thing is that just enough blocking remains so this thing doesn't cut west/flood us with warmth.

GGEM's on its own but with Nina climo I'm going to say it's solution is the frontrunner :weenie:

The GGEM had a good run last year and like you said I'm having a hard time buying 120+ hr solutions which are super suppressed and cold in early December during a Nina.

And yes black and white eye burners or not, those GGEM maps are nice, really perfect for me.

I see LOT dropping hints at LE potential.

ONE REASON FOR A RATHER COMPLICATED EXTENDED PERIOD IS THE STRENGTH

OF THE DOWNSTREAM HIGH LATITUDE RIDGE. THE ECMWF/GFS/GEFS ALL HAVE

SOME HINTS THAT THE FRI SHORTWAVE WILL LIFT NORTH AND REMAIN NEAR

CENTRAL QUEBEC FOR THE DURATION OF THE WEEKEND...SENDING A SERIES OF

WEAK VORT LOBES THRU THE GREAT LAKES REGION. THIS WILL PROVIDE AN

OPPORTUNITY FOR THE LAKE EFFECT MACHINE TO GET CRANKING FOR THE

TYPICAL LOCATIONS.

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The GGEM had a good run last year and like you said I'm having a hard time buying 120+ hr solutions which are super suppressed and cold in early December during a Nina.

And yes black and white eye burners or not, those GGEM maps are nice, really perfect for me.

I see LOT dropping hints at LE potential.

The 12z GFS has a window where the IL shore could get in on it.

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The GGEM had a good run last year and like you said I'm having a hard time buying 120+ hr solutions which are super suppressed and cold in early December during a Nina.

And yes black and white eye burners or not, those GGEM maps are nice, really perfect for me.

I see LOT dropping hints at LE potential.

Early December? Check. La Nina? Check. Super supressed? you betchya.

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Back to fantasy land programming, but the 12z GGEM has abandoned the storm of the winter for ORD, YYZ, LAF, etc...in favor of the Mid-Atlantic. Adjust your doom and gloom meters accordingly. ;)

H5 setup isn't bad. Just everything starts to come together too far east. Wouldn't take a lot to get back to the 0z solution, but we need some of the other more reliable models *cough* EURO *cough* to show something similar.

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H5 setup isn't bad. Just everything starts to come together too far east. Wouldn't take a lot to get back to the 0z solution, but we need some of the other more reliable models *cough* EURO *cough* to show something similar.

It isn't that far off from its 0z solution, true. Two runs in a row with something in the neighborhood isn't bad...something to keep an eye on for the future.

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4 years ago today, this puppy was starting to get going...

http://mesonet.agron.iastate.edu/current/mcview.phtml?prod=lotrad&java=script&mode=archive&frames=30&interval=5&year=2006&month=11&day=30&hour=13&minute=0

A bitter pill for LAF in the end, with how it looked on the models 2 days prior, but a good storm for those farther west and northwest.

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4 years ago today, this puppy was starting to get going...

http://mesonet.agron...our=13&minute=0

A bitter pill for LAF in the end, with how it looked on the models 2 days prior, but a good storm for those farther west and northwest.

One of my favorite storms that I can remember following...was supposed to go southeast of me but the heaviest SN axis kept shifting northwest and ending up being to my west by a few counties.

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It wasn't good, that's for sure. Really, winter didn't show up here until mid to late January that season...delayed but not to be denied.

Yeah, I think I was sitting at 0.9" for the season going into the second week of January. Then after that, everything fell into place. Cautionary tale about getting too worked up about a bad start to winter.

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Yeah, I think I was sitting at 0.9" for the season going into the second week of January. Then after that, everything fell into place. Cautionary tale about getting too worked up about a bad start to winter.

Exactly. Obviously it doesn't always work out that way, but you have to keep a little faith sometimes.

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GFS is showing some LES potential on my side on this run but still pretty far out.

VERY early look at the GFS would suggest some favorable ingredients could come together...adequate inversion heights, good delta T, long fetch, little shear, favorable moisture at least initially. A lake response is virtually guaranteed I think...mainly just a question of how good it ends up being.

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