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Early spring...or poorly timed thaw...


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Is there some sort of mechanism going forward to get rid of the SE ridge? I know it's generally typical in a La Nina pattern but not much more than that.

I think it's a pretty stable feature for now, especially with that raging -PNA. The best way to get rid of it would be more of a +PNA. A -NAO would probably just serve to suppress it a bit more to the south.

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Pete and Steve posting back and forth to each other in their touch my weenie, I'll touch yours thread,

Ryan, LL, and Birvine tickling each others tushies with torch talk

You said it...lol. Don't forget Messenger throwing down Step 1 fertilizer and sharpening the lawn mower blade.

I love how giddy people are trying to get about Friday. Yeah, good luck doing any outdoor activity away from black top when there is still 1-2' OTG. And if the snow is melted in some areas...it's a mud pit. I guess they can stick their head out of the car window, and tongue the 60 degree air like a bloodhound.

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You said it...lol. Don't forget Messenger throwing down Step 1 fertilizer and sharpening the lawn mower blade.

I love how giddy people are trying to get about Friday. Yeah, good luck doing any outdoor activity away from black top when there is still 1-2' OTG. And if the snow is melted in some areas...it's a mud pit. I guess they can stick their head out of the car window, and tongue the 60 degree air like a bloodhound.

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You said it...lol. Don't forget Messenger throwing down Step 1 fertilizer and sharpening the lawn mower blade.

I love how giddy people are trying to get about Friday. Yeah, good luck doing any outdoor activity away from black top when there is still 1-2' OTG. And if the snow is melted in some areas...it's a mud pit. I guess they can stick their head out of the car window, and tongue the 60 degree air like a bloodhound.

Just redneck it with the wife, pull out the beach chairs and grab a 12 pack and enjoy the beautiful weather on the driveway, your hunger for the dendrite will grow strong by late month.

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You said it...lol. Don't forget Messenger throwing down Step 1 fertilizer and sharpening the lawn mower blade.

I love how giddy people are trying to get about Friday. Yeah, good luck doing any outdoor activity away from black top when there is still 1-2' OTG. And if the snow is melted in some areas...it's a mud pit. I guess they can stick their head out of the car window, and tongue the 60 degree air like a bloodhound.

Even the blacktop will be all wet and full of salt puddles..no enjoyment there. I guess they can lay out in nana hammys and winter boots

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Even though I don't know what I'm talking about, with high pressure building up towards the west of Greenland and a PNA ridge poking up just off the west coast, doesn't that vortex get squeezed and pushed south? We get real warm for a bit but that looks like another cold unload into our side of the globe.

Like I said, I don't know squat, but....

The problem is the SE ridge and the -PNA type pattern. The PV is way too far w in canada with those other two features/elements combined, at least on that longer range 00z Euro. Perhaps farther along than D10 the PV gets squeezed east and the SE ridge gets knocked back, but by then you're grasping for even more straws than the already misguided D8-10.

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We'll have wintry bouts. Just a little trollin'.

Still turns colder next weekend, but we'll walk the line with a gradient pattern. We may have bouts of warm and cold, but just hope we're on the right side of the boundary. The euro ensembles were cool in the 11-15 day.

I'm kind of wondering why the waaaavvvvvyyyy pattern is still being debated. Pretty clearly signals across the board that we will have a more typical warm/cold/mild/cool pattern. There will be snow chances thrown in.

You guys will be wallowing in your mud like a bunch of rhinoceros this week while I'll be enjoying clean lawns, clean driveways and I may even do some manscaping to get ready for speedo season.

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I think it's a pretty stable feature for now, especially with that raging -PNA. The best way to get rid of it would be more of a +PNA. A -NAO would probably just serve to suppress it a bit more to the south.

I think the SE ridge is a given as the Nina pattern has apparently arrived. I agree that with a little -nao then that could be great for new england as the SE ridge helps to create the gradient and storm track with cold air just to our north. I didn't like the SE Ridge when I lived in Philly but I like it now.

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The problem is the SE ridge and the -PNA type pattern. The PV is way too far w in canada with those other two features/elements combined, at least on that longer range 00z Euro. Perhaps farther along than D10 the PV gets squeezed east and the SE ridge gets knocked back, but by then you're grasping for even more straws than the already misguided D8-10.

I disagree. As long as there is cold air banked in Canada, which there would be with that ridge building into nw canada/alaska, then we have good chances in that pattern.

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I think the SE ridge is a given as the Nina pattern has apparently arrived. I agree that with a little -nao then that could be great for new england as the SE ridge helps to create the gradient and storm track with cold air just to our north. I didn't like the SE Ridge when I lived in Philly but I like it now.

This could be one heck of a pattern for you guys.

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Jerry, was up by your neck of the woods last night, in Brighton. Went to a place called Tasca...very good.

You should have knocked....lol. I had to go to visit a friend (old classmate) who's wife just died. Ach...we're all getting old. Cold and cloudy...deep and bulletproof snowpack....and a Euro ensembles WAY different vs op.

D 9/10: ...look at the difference in H85/H5. Ensemble prog is on the left, op on the right.

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Sorry if this has been posted in another thread...pretty good reading , I think...

http://www.boston.com/news/weather/articles/2011/02/13/researchers_try_to_decipher_patterns_of_super_snowy_spells/?page=2

This was a good laymans read (for folks like me). Cover story of the Boston Sunday globe. Decent examples Uccellini quotes etc

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